COZY: BLM leader (Deray) lives in home owned by Soros’ Open Society board member

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Not surprising

How do you think a group of hash tagtivists got meetings with the POTUS, Attorney General, etc after only a couple years on the scene?
Got too big to ignore?
BLM is an archaic construct, its based on copying the failed civil rights movement and its based on begging white people to like black people and understand black pain

liberals like it because it replicates the 60's where white liberals are leading black people

black people need to focus on money and power and destroying our enemies not social justice, or integration or convincing white people to like blacks

Black peoples should not for equality, integration or social justice aka civil rights

We need to fight for money and power and superiority

Now I understand some of you. You're not just interested in destroying the white power structure. You want to replace it with one where we're the oppressor. I don't agree with that. I mean, this may be naive or idealistic, but I believe our fight should first be for equity and then equality.
 

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Now I understand some of you. You're not just interested in destroying the white power structure. You want to replace it with one where we're the oppressor. I don't agree with that. I mean, this may be naive or idealistic, but I believe our fight should first be for equity and then equality.

what you want is the path of least resistance that will rile up white people the least, you dont want confrontation, which is understandable since we dont have the economy aor the physical force to destroy our enemies, but its important to plan for the future

you cant have equity or equality until you have your own economy and your own defense

thats the strategic mistake that the civil rights movement made by advocatng for "equity and equality" and not developing your own economy and defense, we will end up in the same place of weakness if we follow the path of civil rights

but luckily BLM is a joke, it will never have the breadth and leadership of the civil rights movement, and it will fade away soon, and so will the civil rights relics
 
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I didn't say civil rights didn't achieve their agenda, for the most part it did
I'm questioning the agenda itself, the agenda/goals of the civil rights movement were wrong
Black peoples should not for equality, integration or social justice aka civil rights
We need to fight for money and power and superiority
My spidey senses tingle when a person doesn't answer a direct question

Like I've already mentioned in the previous thread, integration and civil rights are different entities
You could achieve voting equality, without public facilities being integrated, why is that distinction important? because the agenda of different organizations strive for "Civil Rights", despite the members already being integrated in their respective society

Civil Rights achieved its agenda. Dr. King was rightfully prepping for an economical movement that would compliment the success of the Civil Rights Movement, but he died. The legit criticism should be geared towards the post Civil Rights period, due to the lack of complimentary actions after the Civil Rights Movement

They didnt "force economic integration" they started small and built up untill it was large enough to support them leaving and integrating on their own terms..alot of immigrant groups still do this to this very day

theres little korea,little russia,little mexico,Chinatown...wheres little Africa?wheres Negrotown?..Nobody stopped its building .things were already headed that direction with Black wall street the harlem renaissance and detroit in the 40s and 50 but it all stopped after the civil rights movement .. @theworldismine13 is right to criticize it .


Thats not accurate either..they werent importing vegetables ,corn, milk and sugar from china in the 1890s..they offered their people mix of local and imported goods but the reason they succeeded is they kept every dollar circulating among themselves for as long as possible...

And the point of building your own infrastructure is to AVOID the discrimination so of course they minimized their exposure..but they still faced it ...the real estate they had to build on was on land nobody else wanted...its hard to see it now since the cities have grown but look at the historical pictures of chinatown and little italy.
Chinatown was not established via poor real estate opportunity or selling of local and imported goods, like the common vegetable stands

Chinatown was established by merchants that sold Chinese based goods and services only. Then it blossomed to include the mixture of local goods, only after their unique foods, labor recruiting companies, art works merchants, prostitution, and porcelain statue merchants help to established an economical structure. Then the Chinese-agenda-based organization(I don't recall the name), that supports all Chinatown in the country, was established, which helped immigrants and local Chinese folks with training, opening a business, local politics, and lobbying efforts

It was a forced economical integration because it was based in supply and demand. The white folks wanted to experience the "oriental" culture, the asian merchants capitalized off that. The white folks wanted labor to exploit, the asian merchants capitalized off that

The Civil Rights movement did not stifle black economics because its agenda was successfully achieved, which it did not have anything to do with economics. Like I said above, the lack of a complimentary movement post CRM, is not the fault of the Civil Rights Movement
 

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jesus...I don't believe this at all, but if true, who gives a fukk?:what:
 

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:sas2: Yup....you never see Asians marching for anything...yet they were indentured laborers during the railway boom many of them are still buried under those tracks..they were locked up in prison camps during ww2..the white man wouldnt employ them for a long time.

But as they get wealthier and their homelands get richer the "social justice" just falls into place...All the assassinated civil rights leaders knew this ....as long as Black people are poor and Africa is a shythole nobody will ever respect you...

but if youre Eating good and Africa is rising ... its guaranteed there will be fewer and fewer people wearing sheets telling you to go home n*****ger

I agree with most of what your saying. Its funny reading your posts I was thinking, "wow he's channeling Race and Economics" then I noticed your avatar is the young Thomas Sowell. I know the history you speak of and probably have read some of the same books, but here is part of the issue:

1. One of our issues is the large population size of Blacks. With a heavily concentrated (over half on the West Coast) population and only 1 million or so people in the earlier days, you can have a close knit community. With tens of millions of Blacks across the Republic, it is a bit harder. Same thing with Jews. At the time of Hitler, Jews were only 1% of the German population or about 200,000 people. Its easier to work together with such tractable numbers.

2. The motivations of immigrants, mostly self-selected and not always from humble, unskilled backgrounds, were different and their culture was intact. The Chinese came from a commercially advanced civilization having their own language and knowledge of history to bind them. We pretty much built ourselves from scratch and the bits of our African cultural legacy that we could hold on to. It's a slow process and not always even. Look at some of the BS and c00ns Jews had to deal with in their own community from about 1200-1800 and you can see we aren't alone in such foolishness.

3. The Chinese had no expectation of integration since they just got there and knew they weren't White. We'd been fighting for basic rights for 200 years or so and though I am not in agreement with hyper integration and economically marginalizing ourselves, it is understandable why some Blacks saw integration as a goal after all these other groups could spend two generations and not have their American-ness questioned.

4. Whenever I hear about the violence against Chinese, Irish, Italians etc. (and yes some of it was ill) I don't think people differentiate transient, xenophobic violence from the outright system of oppression that Blacks were under, particularly in the South. Chinese were lynched, barred from employment etc. Except for the immigration exclusion laws though, most stuff thrown out them were mostly local or state at best. They didn't have a whole phalanx of Southern congressmen and Senators actively working to thwart any design of freedom. Whole communities weren't wiped out (killed, not internment camps). To be honest I would not say anyone but the Native Americans went through anything close to what we did and we are sadly both kind of fukked for it. By the time of WW2 internment, the Japanese were some of the biggest landowners and commercial farmers in Cali. With that kind of human capital it is easy to quickly recover.

Besides that I agree with your ideas about economic empowerment and getting Africa "right' I have a business here in the US and am working with planning two others for the Caribbean and Africa in the relatively near future. We need more of us on the entrepreneurship and not taking money from rich White folk tip. To be honest, I could be a Black conservative but the thing that bothers me most about them (unfortunately Dr. Sowell included) is I don't understand how they can rag on Blacks not doing for themselves (or take Soros money) when they are the mirror image. Who do you think supports Hoover where he works? The awoke Black masses?

If you have read Race and Economics and the Race and Empire series you should also read The Ethnic Myth by Stephen Steinberg; it has some interesting counterpoints.
 

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My spidey senses tingle when a person doesn't answer a direct question

Like I've already mentioned in the previous thread, integration and civil rights are different entities
You could achieve voting equality, without public facilities being integrated, why is that distinction important? because the agenda of different organizations strive for "Civil Rights", despite the members already being integrated in their respective society

Civil Rights achieved its agenda. Dr. King was rightfully prepping for an economical movement that would compliment the success of the Civil Rights Movement, but he died. The legit criticism should be geared towards the post Civil Rights period, due to the lack of complimentary actions after the Civil Rights Movement
i dont know what other efforts you are referring to, thats why id didint answer the question, you will have to specify what these efforts were

so are you including BLM in your critique of the post civil rights period?
 

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Chinatown was not established via poor real estate opportunity or selling of local and imported goods, like the common vegetable stands
Youre myopically focusing on one specific location.I assume new york ..instead of the big picture...thats a flaw...people need things and services to live..it cant all be imported..my point was these CHINATOWNS in plural offered a full array of what was necessary for their people because they couldnt get it anywhere else..they had them wherever the railway went CA ,NV ,the midwest and so on

Chinatown was established by merchants that sold Chinese based goods and services only. Then it blossomed to include the mixture of local goods, only after their unique foods, labor recruiting companies, art works merchants, prostitution, and porcelain statue merchants help to established an economical structure. Then the Chinese-agenda-based organization(I don't recall the name), that supports all Chinatown in the country, was established, which helped immigrants and local Chinese folks with training, opening a business, local politics, and lobbying efforts
Still focusing on the little picture of a specific group of stores in NY i assume...heres indisputable evidence to the contrary...note the dates
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It was a forced economical integration because it was based in supply and demand. The white folks wanted to experience the "oriental" culture, the asian merchants capitalized off that. The white folks wanted labor to exploit, the asian merchants capitalized off that
Thats why i said note the dates..White folks before WW2 didnt want anything to do with asian culture by and large..they were denied citizenship,couldnt marry white people and couldnt bring a spouse from their homeland.
Also by 1924, all Asian immigrants (except people from the Philippines, which had been annexed by the United States in 1898) were utterly excluded by law, denied citizenship and naturalization, and prevented from marrying Caucasians or owning land.[3]..>>>>Wikipedia

White people didnt fall for asian culture and goods UNTIL the Asians had established themselves economically and didnt need them as much

The Civil Rights movement did not stifle black economics because its agenda was successfully achieved, which it did not have anything to do with economics. Like I said above, the lack of a complimentary movement post CRM, is not the fault of the Civil Rights Movement
Thats YOUR opinion..and it is unconvincing..all the data shows other wise..Black home ownership dropped,marriage rates crashed,Black owned businesses dwindled
These things had survived and been rising through Jim crow,WW1 ,WW2 but after the CRA they all fell and stayed fallen


you have made so many claims so far but you back them up with nothing but emotion or opinion and even when i post proof that contradicts what you said you disregard it and hold fast to your beliefs
 
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They didnt "force economic integration" they started small and built up untill it was large enough to support them leaving and integrating on their own terms..alot of immigrant groups still do this to this very day

theres little korea,little russia,little mexico,Chinatown...wheres little Africa?wheres Negrotown?..Nobody stopped its building .things were already headed that direction with Black wall street the harlem renaissance and detroit in the 40s and 50 but it all stopped after the civil rights movement .. @theworldismine13 is right to criticize it .


Thats not accurate either..they werent importing vegetables ,corn, milk and sugar from china in the 1890s..they offered their people mix of local and imported goods but the reason they succeeded is they kept every dollar circulating among themselves for as long as possible...

And the point of building your own infrastructure is to AVOID the discrimination so of course they minimized their exposure..but they still faced it ...the real estate they had to build on was on land nobody else wanted...its hard to see it now since the cities have grown but look at the historical pictures of chinatown and little italy.
spitting that knowledge for these brehs huh? another soros conspiracy that it was racist white people that burned it down to hide the fact that it was the civil rights movement that actually killed it.
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anyway, left wing billionaires support left wings causes just like right wing billionaires support right wing causes.
 

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you dont give a fuk that some dude who nobody knows and is being pushed as a "new black leader" by the mainstream media lives in a house owned by his "sponsors"

ok
yeah, I don't
because his actions are public
we can judge him on those, not on spurious and empty insinuations
notice that nothing you've written in the statement above is incriminating or indicting of his character
come back when you have something
so far you sound like a crazy person, or worse...
how the hell do I know you ain't cointell trying to sabotage a movement?
 

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anyway, left wing billionaires support left wings causes just like right wing billionaires support right wing causes.

It's way more complex
Than that, you have to think about the political implications of black issues becoming a left wing cause

When, how and where did we agree that we are a left wing cause, when did we agree to be foot soldiers for leftists?

Blm has every right to identify and align itself and be the foot soldiers with the left wing, but when did black people agree to this

Also due to its source of funding will Blm become another neutered organization like the naacp and cbc who go on weird irrelevant tangents like supporting Isreal or homosexual rights?

Soros and his buddies funding Deray and Blm is a sign that deray and Blm are left wing organizations not actual black organizations

An actual black organization separates itself from white supremacists left wingers and white supremacists right wingers
 

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yeah, I don't
because his actions are public
we can judge him on those, not on spurious and empty insinuations
notice that nothing you've written in the statement above is incriminating or indicting of his character
come back when you have something
so far you sound like a crazy person, or worse...
how the hell do I know you ain't cointell trying to sabotage a movement?

Well like I just posted, the danger of the funding is that Blm will soon, if they haven't already, come out, with some pro
Isreal or pro homosexual solidarity actions which has nothing to do with black people

That is the issue with the funding
 

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Well like I just posted, the danger of the funding is that Blm will soon, if they haven't already, come out, with some pro
Isreal or pro homosexual solidarity actions which has nothing to do with black people

That is the issue with the funding
man GTFOH, with that boogey man bullshyt
 
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