COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

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Just saw this on skynews .. no video online yet ... some quotes

"COVID-19: South African doctors fear new coronavirus variants could evolve in untreated HIV population
When South Africa's hardy yet overworked health system shifted to address the COVID pandemic, the work of diagnosing people with HIV - and maintaining contact with those who already have the virus - was neglected.

New strains could evolve

Early on in the pandemic, scientists discovered that the immunocompromised tend to suffer from particularly long and severe COVID infections with prolonged periods of infectiousness.

In addition, work done by scientists in Durban has shown how COVID can mutate inside the bodies of those with untreated HIV. In one case, they traced a coronavirus sample to a 36-year-old HIV patient who was struggling to adhere to her antiretroviral treatment regime. Over the course of her seven-month COVID infection, the virus acquired 32 mutations.

A 40-year-old woman called Sylvia van Wyk stopped taking antiretroviral tablets two years ago - and when she picked up COVID, she couldn't get rid of it.

"I was so sick, I couldn't do nothing, nothing at all, my mum was there for me, she was washing me, feeding me, I couldn't do nothing for myself, nothing," she said.

Sylvia had COVID for three agonising months but when she re-started her HIV treatment, her body fought the virus off.

South African scientists warn that it is crucial that people like Sylvia continue to take their HIV treatments for fear of the development of some, "really nasty variants," in the words of one leading figure."


COVID-19: South African doctors fear new coronavirus variants could evolve in untreated HIV population

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:mjlol: hopefully you understand by now ..

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My aunt and her fam got it. They’re vaxxed up with no booster. My aunt got it bad. Hopefully it’s not bad to the point she needs medical assistance.

Mom’s friend got it and is triple jabbed. She has it bad too.

People still wanna point fingers at the unvaxxed, huh? :unimpressed:

Ever thought that maybe...just maybe those who got the vax and contracted COVID would have had a much worse experience wihout the vax? I don't understand your comment about the unvaxed. I mean, it was understood that many would get this thing and the vaccine would help with the symptoms.
 

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Ever thought that maybe...just maybe those who got the vax and contracted COVID would have had a much worse experience wihout the vax? I don't understand your comment about the unvaxed. I mean, it was understood that many would get this thing and the vaccine would help with the symptoms.

that person apparently had a difficult time with covid despite the fact they had antibodies prepared to fight it off.

some of these people genuinely believe exposure to spike proteins is worse than exposure to covid w/spike proteins. :mindblown:
 
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Ever thought that maybe...just maybe those who got the vax and contracted COVID would have had a much worse experience wihout the vax? I don't understand your comment about the unvaxed. I mean, it was understood that many would get this thing and the vaccine would help with the symptoms.

Maybe it does. I don’t have the shots and got Covid early on (and possibly got omicron) and my symptoms were mild. I was sick, but not bedridden. People I know with the vaxx got it worse than I did. I have HBP too. The two times I caught the flu before 2019 were way worse than my Covid experience.

SAS was in the hospital and nearly died. Dude had his shots too. But in the long run it’s all about how strong our IS is and how healthy we are. Im not opposed to vacs; people have their choice to get it or not. A vac is basically a band aid imo.

my comment about the pointing fingers is how a lot of people, especially on here, still think the unvaxxed are the problem. The fact is viruses mutate; a vac isn’t gonna stop it. Covid is the new flu, at least for the time being.
 
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that person apparently had a difficult time with covid despite the fact they had antibodies prepared to fight it off.

some of this people genuinely believe exposure to spike proteins is worse than exposure to covid w/spike proteins. :mindblown:
You stay on my dikk but bullshytting about me? :what:

I never had it bad with Covid. I’ve been on record multiple times about my experience.
 

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my comment about the pointing fingers is how a lot of people, especially on here, still think the unvaxxed are the problem. The fact is viruses mutate; a vac isn’t gonna stop it. Covid is the new flu, at least for the time being.

I mean, they are a big problem because most of them are the ones in ICU and dying.
 

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I mean, they are a big problem because most of them are the ones in ICU and dying.

Ever thought most had serious health conditions? From personal experience, I’ve noticed a lot of people dying are already in bad health, Unvaccinated or not. People with serious underlying conditions, especially lung related, are the most at risk of serious complications and death.
 

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You stay on my dikk but bullshytting about me? :what:

I never had it bad with Covid. I’ve been on record multiple times about my experience.

My aunt and her fam got it. They’re vaxxed up with no booster. My aunt got it bad. Hopefully it’s not bad to the point she needs medical assistance.

Mom’s friend got it and is triple jabbed. She has it bad too.


thats who i was referring to but I see my wording was vague.:francis:
 

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thats who i was referring to but I see my wording was vague.:francis:

Omicron is supposedly the weakest strain, but why are people still getting symptoms like it’s the original strain? Symptoms shouldn’t be as bad as it was in 2020.

In the end It all falls on how good or bad each persons health and immune system is. That’s the one thing people seem to forget. :shaq2:
 

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Omicron is supposedly the weakest strain, but why are people still getting symptoms like it’s the original strain? Symptoms shouldn’t be as bad as it was in 2020.

In the end It all falls on how good or bad each persons health and immune system is. That’s the one thing people seem to forget. :shaq2:

because it's a novel coronavirus and is somewhat unknown as to who it'll effect and how. omnicron doesn't do as much damage to the lungs as the other variants but covid does a lot more than damage peoples lungs.

https://www.goodrx.com/conditions/c...l-coronavirus-mean-science-medical-definition
What does “novel” mean in medicine and virology?
The word “novel” originated from the Latin word “novus,” which means “new.” In medicine, “novel” usually refers to a virus or bacterial strain that was not previously identified. COVID-19 is a new disease, caused by the novel, or new, coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 that was not previously seen in humans.

What is a novel coronavirus, specifically?
Coronaviruses are a family of viruses named for the crown-like spikes on their surface. The word “corona” itself means “crown.” Although most coronaviruses are found in animals, the first human coronaviruses were identified in the mid-1960s, and seven, including SARS-CoV-2, are known to affect humans today. When animal coronaviruses evolve and are able to infect humans, these viruses are considered to be novel. Over time, these viruses change to be able to attach to different host cells, allowing them to enter the cells of new species. Since these viruses had not been seen before in humans, scientists and researchers must learn how the virus infects human cells and causes disease in order for them to develop potential treatments and vaccines.

COVID-19 is caused by a different coronavirus than those that cause the common cold. Four of the seven human coronaviruses typically cause mild to moderate illness and account for 10% to 30% of upper respiratory tract infections in adults. The other three, including SARS-CoV-2, can cause more serious respiratory illness. More on this below.
 

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ok, how do people measure their health and immune system to determine if they'll fare well with covid or not?

Im not even gonna argue this because it makes no fukkin sense. You just wanna argue about shyt because you have nothing else to do. We’re all different, just leave it at that and Shut up already. :what:
 

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In the end It all falls on how good or bad each persons health and immune system is. That’s the one thing people seem to forget. :shaq2:

Nope.

What is "bad" for covid might be "good" against something else.

If someone has a gene (combination) and bodily condition that predisposes them to a bad case of covid that doesn't defacto generally speaking make their immune system "bad" or "less healthy".

In food scarcity people prone to burn less energy / fat are better off. In food abundance those people can end up obese. In cold climes people with more melanin suffer more effects from vitamin D deficiency .... vs in warm climes .. etc etc.

Cytokin storms in your body from covid could be as a result of an overstrong immune system and immune reaction for covid.

see the following for a discission of this phenomenon wrt to the flu:

"Inside a Cytokine Storm: When Your Immune System is Too Strong
Ironically, in most cases, it is the strength of their immune response that can put a healthy person at risk for complications associated with the flu. While most of the time a strong immune system is key to keeping an infection in check, sometimes the body’s reaction to being infected with the flu presents the greatest danger to an otherwise healthy person.

A cytokine storm is generally what leads to otherwise healthy young people dying of the flu,” says David Martin, Senior Medical Director at Pfizer. “We saw that in the flu pandemic that happened at the end of World War I and we’re still seeing it today.”"
Inside a Cytokine Storm: When Your Immune System is Too Strong | Pfizer
 

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Nope.

What is "bad" for covid might be "good" against something else.

If someone has a gene (combination) and bodily condition that predisposes them to a bad case of covid that doesn't defacto generally speaking make their immune system "bad" or "less healthy".

In food scarcity people prone to burn less energy / fat are better off. In food abundance those people can end up obese. In cold climes people with more melanin suffer more effects from vitamin D deficiency .... vs in warm climes .. etc etc.

Cytokin storms in your body from covid could be as a result of an overstrong immune system and immune reaction for covid.

see the following for a discission of this phenomenon wrt to the flu:

"Inside a Cytokine Storm: When Your Immune System is Too Strong
Ironically, in most cases, it is the strength of their immune response that can put a healthy person at risk for complications associated with the flu. While most of the time a strong immune system is key to keeping an infection in check, sometimes the body’s reaction to being infected with the flu presents the greatest danger to an otherwise healthy person.

A cytokine storm is generally what leads to otherwise healthy young people dying of the flu,” says David Martin, Senior Medical Director at Pfizer. “We saw that in the flu pandemic that happened at the end of World War I and we’re still seeing it today.”"
Inside a Cytokine Storm: When Your Immune System is Too Strong | Pfizer
First off, I never said anything about what’s good for someone might be bad for another. I don’t know why you’re trying to twist my words. I just said everyone doesn’t have the same health.

And yes, genetics is also in the mix. I wasn’t arguing it didn’t. There’s many factors that can determine how anything will affect someone.

Why are some people allergic to peanuts while others aren’t? Why do healthy super people get cancer? Why does a person have a rare disease? We’re all different and don’t operate the same.
 
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