COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

[Wild self]

That's the issue, a lot of these people are acting on flawed information. Common sense says that if there's a virus in the air if someone's sick, you don't want to breathe that in. So, you'd want to keep your distance, wash your hands, and probably wear a mask to prevent yourself from inhaling it unknowingly. That seems pretty straightforward, and yet...

People think they have Super Saiyan immune systems and get knocked on their back. Sure, there's people out there that'll be fine, but why risk it? And then they carry it with them and someone who won't be okay ends up getting infected. There lies the whole point of being cautious, but a lot of these people straight up don't care. Take those kids on the airplane for example. Not a single one of them considered the fact that they can be a harm to themselves or somebody else who is doing their absolute best to stay safe. Do they care though? Nope. They just want to have fun and "live their lives", other human lives be damned. Then when poor Grandma catches that shyt, there's smeared eyeliners and red corneas on TikTok talking about "this is very real you guys, stay safe." Yeah, we've been saying that for two years now, welcome to the conversation guys.

At this point, it's willful ignorance. We've been in this world now for 2+ years. There's enough information to answer a good majority of the questions that people have, but they choose not to. They don't want peer-reviewed data from established institutions. They want fringe doctors to validate their confirmation bias. A good majority of the data we have is out there readily available, but some of them think that "the truth is being stifled". Now, if we have medical professionals all over the world, and most of the data consistent with what's been relayed to the public... What does Occam's Razor tell us?

The worst part of all this is that most people aren't even saying "be afraid", they're just saying "don't be a fukking idiot". It's hard on everyone, but most people are doing their part even though they'd rather be living life normally. And thankfully, most people know better than to listen to the knuckleheads.

 

[bnew]

How can someone be selfish for wanting the right to decide what they put in their own body?

no one has the right to infect others with an infectious disease. prior to the existence of the omicron variant the vaccine was very effective in reducing transmission to the vaccinated.

selfish people who refuse to take vaccines are the reason once largely eradicated diseases are coming back to the U.S.













legislators seeking to address the problem





lets think about it logically also, the vaccine + booster shot is still effective against the spread of omicron. even if a person who is vaccinated and boosted contracts covid, their symptoms are less severe and they recover faster. the shorter the period someone is ill, the fewer opportunities they have to spread/infect other people.

 

[DrHackenbush]

no one has the right to infect others with an infectious disease. prior to the existence of the omicron variant the vaccine was very effective in reducing transmission to the vaccinated.

selfish people who refuse to take vaccines are the reason once largely eradicated diseases are coming back to the U.S.













legislators seeking to address the problem

What's considered "fully vaccinated" is constantly changing which allows people who have even had 2 jabs to fall into the unvaccinated category, this makes all these stats very unreliable. These vaccines you're putting into your body wane after a month or 2. You're gonna have to have a booster literally every 2/3 months to keep your antibody level high, all this while destroying your bodies natural immune system.

At what point does the risk of having all these vaccinations begin to outweigh the risk of actually catching something that has a 99.5% survival rate? Take a read through the posts on here about your precious vaccine:

https://twitter.com/theysayitsrare/with_replies

I'm not antivaxx either so dont try and pull that shyt, I've had jabs, not taking any more though. Just wondering at what point are people actually gonna start questioning this shyt and start thinking for themselves

 

[bnew]

What's considered "fully vaccinated" is constantly changing which allows people who have even had 2 jabs to fall into the unvaccinated category, this makes all these stats very unreliable. These vaccines you're putting into your body wane after a month or 2. You're gonna have to have a booster literally every 2/3 months to keep your antibody level high, all this while destroying your bodies natural immune system.

At what point does the risk of having all these vaccinations begin to outweigh the risk of actually catching something that has a 99.5% survival rate? Take a read through the posts on here about your precious vaccine:

https://twitter.com/theysayitsrare/with_replies

I'm not antivaxx either so dont try and pull that shyt, I've had jabs, not taking any more though. Just wondering at what point are people actually gonna start questioning this shyt and start thinking for themselves

those who are vaccinated with 2-doses do not fall into the unvaccinated category, they're partially-vaccinated.

the meaning changed when the data and the variants changed. the vaccine was developed & based on the alpha variant and had a 90% success rate against it, then delta variant came along which dropped it to 80-something percent effectiveness. how are we destroying our bodies immune system by training/exposing it to spike proteins to produce antibodies? the same people who say we have to live with covid don't seem to understand with its high R0 rate, that means multiple infections a year. so how is getting infected by covid w/spike proteins multiple times a year any better for a persons immune system?

ok it becomes dominant and then what, a life of people getting covid every 2 months or so? have you seen the R0 value?

Omicron driving up Canada’s R value at ‘unprecedented’ rate. Here’s what that means - National | Globalnews.ca

snippet:

The R value for the variants combined shows the pandemic is not yet over, but the Omicron figure paints a starker image – that if preventative measures are not enacted the pandemic could spiral out of control.

Essentially, one person would be infecting four people, who would then infect 16 and then 64 people who would infect 256 people and so on. The doubling effect would occur every five days.

If the R value were to hold true, it could cripple the Canadian health system in a few months, as millions of Canadians would be infected and re-infected with COVID.

it's more transmissible than the common cold and with worse symptoms. we have yet to see in a large scale study how people fare after multiple(3+) positive covid infections.

edit:

this said omnicron R0 could be as high as 10.

The original strain of SARS-CoV-2 has an R0 of 2·5, while the delta variant (B.1.617.2) has an R0 of just under 7. Martin Hibberd, professor of emerging infectious diseases at London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine (London, UK), reckons omicron's R0 could be as high as 10. In the UK, cases of omicron are doubling every 2–3 days, which puts it on track to supplant delta as the dominant variant in the country by mid-December. It also complicates control efforts. “Contact tracing works well if you have about a week between one infection and the next”, explained Hibberd, “But it is almost impossible to make it work if you only have 2 or 3 days between infections. We may have to rely on other measures, like daily testing.”

DEFINE_ME

covid is not the flu, I have my doubts that we can proceed with the same course of actions and live with it.

 

[DrHackenbush]

those who are vaccinated with 2-doses do not fall into the unvaccinated category, they're partially-vaccinated.

the meaning changed when the data and the variants changed. the vaccine was developed & based on the alpha variant and had a 90% success rate against it, then delta variant came along which dropped it to 80-something percent effectiveness. how are we destroying our bodies immune system by training/exposing it to spike proteins to produce antibodies? the same people who say we have to live with covid don't seem to understand with its high R0 rate, that means multiple infections a year. so how is getting infected by covid w/spike proteins multiple times a year any better for a persons immune system?



covid is not the flu, I have my doubts that we can proceed with the same course of actions and live with it.

No point us continuing this man, we'll end up nowhere. Wish you the best of health whatever you do decide is best

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

What's considered "fully vaccinated" is constantly changing which allows people who have even had 2 jabs to fall into the unvaccinated category, this makes all these stats very unreliable. These vaccines you're putting into your body wane after a month or 2. You're gonna have to have a booster literally every 2/3 months to keep your antibody level high, all this while destroying your bodies natural immune system.

At what point does the risk of having all these vaccinations begin to outweigh the risk of actually catching something that has a 99.5% survival rate? Take a read through the posts on here about your precious vaccine:

https://twitter.com/theysayitsrare/with_replies

I'm not antivaxx either so dont try and pull that shyt, I've had jabs, not taking any more though. Just wondering at what point are people actually gonna start questioning this shyt and start thinking for themselves

1.) When did the definition of being fully vaccinated change in the US?

2.) Antibodies always wane after infection and vaccination for every viral infection and their respective vaccine. Do you have any studies to back up the claim that boosters every 2/3 months is likely and that said vaccines will destroy your immune system?


3.) That twitter thread though. Why not support your argument with peer reviewed papers instead of anedoctal tweets which may or not be fake?

 

[FreshFromATL]

I'm convinced people have officially stopped giving a fukk about covid. People not even rocking masks now even with all the news of Omicron over the past few weeks. I don't even see older people wearing masks as much now. Lounges/bars/clubs still packed out. At this point, whatever's going to happen with covid is just going to happen. The government has definitely lost people's interest on the covid topic, IMO.

 

[Wild self]

I'm convinced people have officially stopped giving a fukk about covid. People not even rocking masks now even with all the news of Omicron over the past few weeks. I don't even see older people wearing masks as much now. Lounges/bars/clubs still packed out. At this point, whatever's going to happen with covid is just going to happen. The government has definitely lost the interest on the covid topic, IMO.

That's ATL.

NY everyone getting sick. Some are so paranoid, that a single cough makes them go

 

[FreshFromATL]

That's ATL.

NY everyone getting sick. Some are so paranoid, that a single cough makes them go

Most people got that shyt in ATL too. EVERYBODY I know has had covid the past couple weeks. Some people had no symptoms at all, some were battling symptoms for a few days and got better. I haven't heard of anyone getting bad-off sick. I just think at this point people are over it judging by how I see everyone moving out here.

 

[Brandeezy]

High School seems like a free-for-all

 

[DAT NICCA KELSO]

My girl, our 2 year and me tested on Thursday morning and still haven't received our results.

My son is active and eating. And my girl just has an occasional dry cough. I had no symptoms all week.

Got my results from 12/29 on Wednesday and it was negative. My girl and our son still haven't got their results

But at this point it doesn't matter since I just did a rapid test this morning and it came back positive. So I know they were positive last week.

 

[YoNoSe]

High School seems like a free-for-all

My wife is an nyc high school public teacher. What the mayor and advocates for in person learning aren’t saying is that a lot of parents don’t feel comfortable with their kids in school. It’s spreading fast.

 

[Wild self]

High School seems like a free-for-all

No child can learn in those conditions in school

Better off going remote.

 

[DAT NICCA KELSO]

My wife is an nyc high school public teacher. What the mayor and advocates for in person learning aren’t saying is that a lot of parents don’t feel comfortable with their kids in school. It’s spreading fast.

My girl is a social worker for a HRA program and she called one of her participants this week and the lady was crying because she doesn't want to send her child to school but the school threatened her by saying they will call ACS on her for not sending her child to school

 

[DrHackenbush]

1.) When did the definition of being fully vaccinated change in the US?

2.) Antibodies always wane after infection and vaccination for every viral infection and their respective vaccine. Do you have any studies to back up the claim that boosters every 2/3 months is likely and that said vaccines will destroy your immune system?


3.) That twitter thread though. Why not support your argument with peer reviewed papers instead of anedoctal tweets which may or not be fake?

Fully vaccinated used to be 2 jabs, now its 3. What happens when they introduce a 4th or 5th? Means if you have 3 jabs and die and it's broken down into unvaccinated/vaccinated you'd be considered unvaccinated.

Natural immunity is always > artificial immunity that vaccines create. By constantly taking these vaccines you're overstimulating your bodies immune system

Right, why don't I back up my claims by showing crooked review papers by corrupt healthcare officials or paid off politicans instead of listening to reports from everyday people who have taken the vaccine and have no reason to lie..

Man, when did this forum turn into reddit

The virus is real, the response is not.