COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

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I'm actually taking a class about historical epidemics and we were studying the yellow fever epidemics in New Orleans during the 19th century. Apparently cacs who were able to become acclimated(immune essentially) to the disease were viewed favorably in social circles and possessed something money couldn't buy: "immunocapital." I can definitely envision something along those lines developing now between those who are vaccinated and those who refuse.

let your politics override science brehs :hhh:

how would people know who actually refused? stars on their clothes perhaps? a mark on their forehead?
 

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i had to unfollow this dude i swear

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing


if you read his twitter..feeels like were never gonna beat covid :snoop:

he doesnt even talk about vaccination

He keeps harping on Chile being fukked up by covid-19 "despite having one of the best vaccination programs in the world" but never mentions this is the vaccine they have:

Chinese vaccines sweep much of the world, despite concerns

Which most people didn't trust in the first place.

“The Chinese vaccine, in particular, there was insufficient data available compared to other vaccines,” said Ahmed Hamdan Zayed, a nurse in Egypt who overcame his initial reluctance and got Sinopharm’s vaccine.

Sinopharm, which said its vaccine was 79% effective based on interim data from clinical trials, did not respond to interview requests.

Chinese vaccine companies have been “slow and spotty” in releasing their trial data, compared to companies like Pfizer and Moderna, said Yanzhong Huang, a global health expert at the U.S. think tank Council for Foreign Relations. None of China’s three vaccine candidates used globally have publicly released their late-stage clinical trial data. CanSino, another Chinese company with a one-shot vaccine that it says is 65% effective, declined to be interviewed.

A lot of these cats are getting internet fame off constantly talking about covid-19. I don't think this shyt is over and it's clearly very serious but the clout chasing (and I hate to use that term, but it fits) is out of control.

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let your politics override science brehs :hhh:

how would people know who actually refused? stars on their clothes perhaps? a mark on their forehead?
I imagine these vaccination cards are going to gain importance. Cornell University already stated that students looking to return to campus for in-person instruction in the fall will need to prove they're fully vaccinated. That being said, I think that may create quite a black market for fraudulent vaccination cards:mjlol:
 

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Damn. Canadian brehs officially :feedme:status. Crazy how the tables have turned. Wishing y'all the best.

Biden Covid Advisor Warns ‘Game-Changing’ Variant Infects Kids ‘Very Readily’ And Could Spur New Lockdowns

Not the kids. This would be a game-changer.:whoo::mjcry:I'm actually taking a class about historical epidemics and we were studying the yellow fever epidemics in New Orleans during the 19th century. Apparently cacs who were able to become acclimated(immune essentially) to the disease were viewed favorably in social circles and possessed something money couldn't buy: "immunocapital." I can definitely envision something along those lines developing now between those who are vaccinated and those who refuse.

Unfortunately, B117 and P1 are coming like LeBron to end any type of premature celebration.

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He keeps harping on Chile being fukked up by covid-19 "despite having one of the best vaccination programs in the world" but never mentions this is the vaccine they have:

Chinese vaccines sweep much of the world, despite concerns

Which most people didn't trust in the first place.



A lot of these cats are getting internet fame off constantly talking about covid-19. I don't think this shyt is over and it's clearly very serious but the clout chasing (and I hate to use that term, but it fits) is out of control.

Fred.
He went from something like 250 followers to being an “influencer” type around this virus with mass followers and millions of mentions and retweets. Literally built a brand off this. He’s holding on for dear life to his newfound fame
 

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He went from something like 250 followers to being an “influencer” type around this virus with mass followers and millions of mentions and retweets. Literally built a brand off this. He’s holding on for dear life to his newfound fame

See I didn't even know that.:mjlol:

I just based it off literally every time I see dude talk, it's some negative shyt. Even when there's something positive, he never leads with it. It'll be buried under like 8 other Tweets.

shyt is crazy man. The constant need for attention is damn near like crack addiction for some people.

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See I didn't even know that.:mjlol:

I just based it off literally every time I see dude talk, it's some negative shyt. Even when there's something positive, he never leads with it. It'll be buried under like 8 other Tweets.

shyt is crazy man. The constant need for attention is damn near like crack addiction for some people.

Fred.
It was 2000 followers pre pandemic. Point still the same. Like you said he buries any good news, if he even discusses it, while misleading and cherry-picking anything negative to go viral, pun intended.
 

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:hhh: Someone pointed all of this out almost literally point for point a few months ago. But people wanted to argue based on feelings and headlines.

BREAKING UK:

SAGE warns social distancing and masks will last until next YEAR because vaccines are 'not good enough' - and life WON'T return to normal after 'the great unlocking' on June 21
  • All legal limits on social contact were to be abolished by June 21 as part of final stage of roadmap out of curbs
  • But No10's scientific experts said 'baseline measures' would need to remain in place until this time next year
  • They are more optimistic about April 12, adding that opening pub gardens and shops unlikely to cause spike
Social distancing will need to remain in place for another year even if Boris Johnson's roadmap out of lockdown goes to plan, the Government's top scientific advisers warned today.

Senior SAGE sources said that while the vaccines prevent the vast majority of people from falling ill and dying from coronavirus, they 'are not good enough' to see all curbs lifted 'without a big epidemic'.

All legal limits on social contact were to be abolished by June 21 as part of the final stage of the Prime Minister's four-step route out of the crisis. It was hoped that festivals, sports events and nightclubs would reopen and that families and friends could reunite in large numbers after that date for the first time since winter 2020.

However, No10's experts claimed today that 'baseline measures', including some form of social distancing and masks, would need to remain in place until this time next year. They said they are 'reasonably confident' that Covid will be manageable by then.

The AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines reduce Covid deaths by about 90 per cent, but there are fears high infection rates could see the virus spill into the small number of vulnerable people who haven't been jabbed or for whom the vaccines don't work.

Despite the pessimistic comments, Mr Johnson announced tonight the country is on track for the second stage of his lockdown easing plans on April 12, which will see shops, gyms, hairdressers and beer gardens reopen again.

Speaking at a Downing Street COVID news briefing, the Prime Minister said: 'We see nothing in our present data that makes us think that we'll have to deviate from the roadmap.' Cases and deaths are their lowest levels in six months and more than half of the adult population has been vaccinated with at least one dose of the jabs.

Papers released by SAGE today show the expert group is confident next week's lockdown-easing measures will not pile pressure on the NHS, even if there is a slight uptick in infections, because of the success of the jab rollout.

But the advisory panel is less optimistic about future stages of the roadmap, adding that it is 'highly likely that there will be a further resurgence in hospitalisations and deaths'.

They said the reopening of pubs, cinemas and indoor hospitality - due to happen on May 17 - could be delayed if vaccine uptake in the under-50s dips below 85 per cent.

Life WON'T return to normal on June 21 because Covid vaccines aren't good enough, SAGE warns | Daily Mail Online

search for my posts in the "UK strain" thread and in this one over the last two weeks. there is lots of material there.

i have said clearly why it (they) are not a silver bullet - namely coverage (not under 16's/allergies/5%-10% low-to-no efficacy), transmissibility+infectivity unknown, mutations (escape), higher-level herd immunity likely, roll-out logistics, animal reservoirs (esp. mink), antibody/protection duration, potential for long-term vaccine side-effects.

you shrugged + quoted, but you need more "argument".

feel free to address my points. see my discussions with @Rhakim where some of these were covered.

anything with that many holes is NOT a proven silver bullet. far from it in fact.

yeah i know links would be nice but :shrug:

If you don't accept it now, you will just be accepting it later.

More updates to follow :sas2:
 

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@TENET your hoping your predictions come true i see :dead: lol

You still don't understand what I am saying .. The scientists do however .. :wow:

I ain't here to beef or go in circles, so you have fun partying this summer :ehh: . Just 4 more months and this will all be just a memory :wow:

Truth is coliscience would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
 
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