Possible but I guess someone would need to parse out that information from data around that time. They probably need to go back to flu and pneumonia like deaths on record and retest for possible covid. Given our government is reluctant to ramp up testing on the already living much less the dead, don't know when or if that will happen
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BmoreGorilla
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Those strange vaping illnesses that came out of nowhere in the fall. We never hear about that anymore. People that got real sick and the doctors didn’t know what to tell them they had becuz flu tests were coming back negative. I personally knew quite a few people this happened to. Also know quite a few who were diagnosed with pneumonia. More than normal
RicanFury
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i was thinking about that too...entirely possible
I personally don’t think so given the August timeline for the initial VALI cases (SARS COV 2 seems to be too virulent to not have spread like wildfire and caused a lot more death than the 64 or so that VALI did) and evidence that some of the chemicals in those shyts have proven to be harmful BUT clinically this would make sense given:
1. VALI diagnosis is primarily a diagnosis of exclusion, meaning no specific tests or markers exist to show the lung damage exists because of vaping, they just couldn’t point to anything else essentially.
2. primary symptoms: hypoxia, fever, cough, shortness of breath, pneumonia
Anyone who was marked down as dying from that maybe should be retested for COVID. Those who recovered can be tested for antibodies.
The question is, who will do this? Maybe a university.
BmoreGorilla
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I personally don’t think so given the August timeline for the initial VALI cases (SARS COV 2 seems to be too virulent to not have spread like wildfire and caused a lot more death than the 64 or so that VALI did) and evidence that some of the chemicals in those shyts have proven to be harmful BUT clinically this would make sense given:
1. VALI diagnosis is primarily a diagnosis of exclusion, meaning no specific tests or markers exist to show the lung damage exists because of vaping, they just couldn’t point to anything else essentially.
2. primary symptoms: hypoxia, fever, cough, shortness of breath, pneumonia
at this point I’m not surprised by anything. I just think it’s suspicious we don’t even hear about that vaping illness anymore. Not to mention all those people who had strange covid like illnesses that had never experienced anything like that before. And this is people that I know. It’s possible imo that it was covid and that it mutated into what we have right now
What a stupid take.Unless their family consists of nursing home patients I doubt there will be any serious consequences. The second can't even be proven. Denying people hospital access based upon bias, subjective criteria, sounds like something a MAGA cac would support.
Opinions are like a$$holes, and you've already showed yours on this topic
yea, that would be a plausible scenario and a scary one.. if it mutated to be more virulent and deadly around jan/feb.. if that were to happen again especially with the entire country basically acting like they’re tired of this and ready to put their guard down.
we really needed to adopt mask wearing as a new custom that we could eventually shed at a later point. A populous that hasn’t adopted that is a great risk if shyt hits the fan again.
Because it will be during the fall and the flu will also be around
BmoreGorilla
Veteran
The flu was around for this too tho
I don’t get this second wave talk. Sure 1918 had one but why does that mean this virus will?
Whats strange to me is that it hit NY and Italy and Brazil so hard, but now is tapering off. Like it has this insane peak and consistently everywhere it tapers off. If ifs so infectious shouldn’t it keep doing damage until it cycles through the whole population
Unless theres way more asymptotic cases and we are already nearing herd immunity
Given all the uncertainty, stay safe all!
Many are basing it on the Spanish Flu pandemic while constantly saying "THIS AIN'T THE FLU!!!!!!!!!"
Also, it will be the seasonal flu that could allow for a number of COVID deaths this fall/winter because while flu doesn't normally kill young healthy adults it does create moderate to severe symptoms and weaken these young healthy adults allowing for an opportunistic COVID infection to take them out.
BmoreGorilla
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Yea people are quick to say this ain’t the flu but stay comparing it to the Spanish Flu
But that’s neither here or there. If this thing has been floating around as long as I think it has then we may be closer to herd immunity than we thought. I think this thing is here to stay tho. So idk if we will be getting waves like people think but there will be outbreaks in places obviously like there is with any virus. Either way I’m still taking precautions and will continue to
BmoreGorilla
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Hilarious you said that becuz I just said the same thing. We have nothing else to compare this to but the flu becuz it’s the l my thing we deal with on the regular that’s somewhat similar. With that said I actually been thinking about getting a flu shot when that time comes around and I haven’t had one in 20 years