COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

Reece

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One of my mom’s friend’s husband just died :snoop: They went to our church too so I know him that way too. He was a good dude, nice to me and my friends when we were growing up. All the women from the church, my mom included, were consoling his wife today on the phone and she was a wreck because she got the notice today that he probably wouldn’t make it another 24 hours and then he died this afternoon all alone :snoop: Both sides are the same though smh.
 

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This Dr is pretty much saying the death rate of CA is minimal as shyt. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 but from the data gathered why did CA extend the shelter in place? The Doc also said the more we test the death rates stays the same even though the # of known cases will go up. Interesting. Haven’t gone through the whole vid yet but this shyt makes me question this shyt even more.
https://youtu.be/RwbGb68aED8

Theres articles already disputing their findings. He's a trump supporter and will be on laura ingraham's show. You do the math
 

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Theres articles already disputing their findings. He's a trump supporter and will be on laura ingraham's show. You do the math
Show me the articles. The thing that seemed fishy to me was that this guy seems to have it all figured out when no one else does.
 

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What is your point ? Go to the other thread
 

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This Dr is pretty much saying the death rate of CA is minimal as shyt. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 but from the data gathered why did CA extend the shelter in place? The Doc also said the more we test the death rates stays the same even though the # of known cases will go up. Interesting. Haven’t gone through the whole vid yet but this shyt makes me question this shyt even more.


Brehs not gonna like this, probably ignore it all together:wow:

I will say he should have based off anti-body testing, but what do I know :ehh:
 
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This Dr is pretty much saying the death rate of CA is minimal as shyt. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 but from the data gathered why did CA extend the shelter in place? The Doc also said the more we test the death rates stays the same even though the # of known cases will go up. Interesting. Haven’t gone through the whole vid yet but this shyt makes me question this shyt even more.


Theres articles already disputing their findings. He's a trump supporter and will be on laura ingraham's show. You do the math

n a press conference, he said that out of roughly 5,000 local patients tested for the coronavirus, a few hundred were positive, or, about 7% of local population, indicating a widespread infection similar to the flu.

“It's an error of logic,” said Dr. Jennifer Kasten, a practicing pathologist with a master’s degree in infectious disease epidemiology. 10News spoke to her via Zoom on Monday afternoon. Her social media response to the doctors’ claims has now been shared thousands of times. She said there's selection bias in their calculation of prevalence, meaning that the sample is not representative of the population at large.



10News asked Dr. Kasten if there’s any truth to losing immunity from self-isolation.

“Fortunately none whatsoever, which is great news for all of us and the reason is that the world and our bodies are coated with microbes. There are literally trillions of microbes on your skin alone,” she told 10News, adding, “You are coming into contact with countless microbes and your immune system is handling dispatching them all.”

When asked about whether she finds the doctors’ bold statements to be dangerous, she responded, “I think it adds to disinformation. It adds to confusion. It makes people feel like there are competing narratives and they aren't sure who to trust.”

ACEP-AAEM Joint Statement on Physician Misinformation
The American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP) and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine (AAEM) jointly and emphatically condemn the recent opinions released by Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Messihi. These reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19. As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health.

COVID-19 misinformation is widespread and dangerous. Members of ACEP and AAEM are first-hand witnesses to the human toll that COVID-19 is taking on our communities. ACEP and AAEM strongly advise against using any statements of Drs. Erickson and Messihi as a basis for policy and decision making.

ACEP-AAEM Joint Statement on Physician Misinformation

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Flatten the curve - Wikipedia


This is why we closed down to flatten the curve. Not to overwhelm hospital resources because there was an argument that you should let a lot of people get infected at once to get over it since the area under the curve does not change, which is false. Flattening the curve saves lives period.


But does mass quarantine mean flattening the curve? Hand washing, wearing masks, being spaced further from other humans flattens the curve. Washing your hands and frequently using disinfectant flattens the curve. Killing the economy can rapidly flatten the curve but you don't have to shut down if your health system isn't overwhelmed and it should be overwhelmed less due to masks and people not hand shaking and not being together.

We should also be raising the line which is not what were are doing. Why are we needing to wait till testing becomes mass produced even when it doesn't make much of a difference in outcomes? Might as well just have everyone recording their pulse ox and go to an ER when it gets below 94.

Wouldn't mass testing freak people out and make them more eager to go to the ED which would not flatten to curve? We are going to contact trace so more people will go to the ER?

No one also talks about how we are lowering the line across the country.
 

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Flatten the curve - Wikipedia


This is why we closed down to flatten the curve. Not to overwhelm hospital resources because there was an argument that you should let a lot of people get infected at once to get over it since the area under the curve does not change, which is false. Flattening the curve saves lives period.


But does mass quarantine mean flattening the curve? Hand washing, wearing masks, being spaced further from other humans flattens the curve. Washing your hands and frequently using disinfectant flattens the curve. Killing the economy can rapidly flatten the curve but you don't have to shut down if your health system isn't overwhelmed and it should be overwhelmed less due to masks and people not hand shaking and not being together.

We should also be raising the line which is not what were are doing. Why are we needing to wait till testing becomes mass produced even when it doesn't make much of a difference in outcomes? Might as well just have everyone recording their pulse ox and go to an ER when it gets below 94.

Wouldn't mass testing freak people out and make them more eager to go to the ED which would not flatten to curve? We are going to contact trace so more people will go to the ER?

No one also talks about how we are lowering the line across the country.

testing makes a difference to outcomeS. imagine a covid world with no testing.

"widespread personal pulse ox testing" is "mass testing" and requires mass production. you think the USA has 100million plus oximeters? You think the world has 4 billion of them?

yes mass quarantine leads to less infection.

 

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Imagine actually following this advice and telling your pet to bounce. So much useless info.

:ehh: Until it's discovered that cats can give it to humans that is ... sort of like "the bat+pangolin did for patient-0". We know covid19 is present in human feces so why not cat waste? From there that's a possible transmission path to owners.

There are non-peer reviewed studies which suggest so, but so as not to ":snoop:" @hex I am not going to list what I found here.
 
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