COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

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Interesting....Florida is coming outta this better than most and didnt even take things seriously until early april really. :jbhmm:

Edit: Too bad the unemployment system is fukked or you maybe would've had to give em credit :pachaha:
over 30k cases and they wanna open stuff back up. give it like 2 more weeks and you'll see the fukkery start to ramp up again. :francis:

Edit: don't remind me :unimpressed::beli:
 

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Interesting....Florida is coming outta this better than most and didnt even take things seriously until early april really. :jbhmm:

Edit: Too bad the unemployment system is fukked or you maybe would've had to give em credit :pachaha:

That was some foul shyt by The Republicans
 

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  1. April 22, 2020 - 12:30 PM EDT
    The data is in — stop the panic and end the total isolation

    The tragedy of the COVID-19 pandemic appears to be entering the containment phase. Tens of thousands of Americans have died, and Americans are now desperate for sensible policymakers who have the courage to ignore the panic and rely on facts. Leaders must examine accumulated data to see what has actually happened, rather than keep emphasizing hypothetical projections; combine that empirical evidence with fundamental principles of biology established for decades; and then thoughtfully restore the country to function.

    Five key facts are being ignored by those calling for continuing the near-total lockdown.

    Fact 1: The overwhelming majority of people do not have any significant risk of dying from COVID-19.

    The recent Stanford University antibody study now estimates that the fatality rate if infected is likely 0.1 to 0.2 percent, a risk far lower than previous World Health Organization estimates that were 20 to 30 times higher and that motivated isolation policies.


    In New York City, an epicenter of the pandemic with more than one-third of all U.S. deaths, the rate of death for people 18 to 45 years old is 0.01 percent, or 10 per 100,000 in the population. On the other hand, people aged 75 and over have a death rate 80 times that. For people under 18 years old, the rate of death is zero per 100,000.

    Of all fatal cases in New York state, two-thirds were in patients over 70 years of age; more than 95 percent were over 50 years of age; and about 90 percent of all fatal cases had an underlying illness. Of 6,570 confirmed COVID-19 deaths fully investigated for underlying conditions to date, 6,520, or 99.2 percent, had an underlying illness. If you do not already have an underlying chronic condition, your chances of dying are small, regardless of age. And young adults and children in normal health have almost no risk of any serious illness from COVID-19.

    Fact 2: Protecting older, at-risk people eliminates hospital overcrowding.

    Fact 3: Vital population immunity is prevented by total isolation policies, prolonging the problem.

    We know from decades of medical science that infection itself allows people to generate an immune response - antibodies - so that the infection is controlled throughout the population by "herd immunity." Indeed, that is the main purpose of widespread immunization in other viral diseases - to assist with population immunity. In this virus, we know that medical care is not even necessary for the vast majority of people who are infected. It is so mild that half of infected people are asymptomatic, shown in early data from the Diamond Princess ship, and then in Iceland and Italy. That has been falsely portrayed as a problem requiring mass isolation. In fact, infected people without severe illness are the immediately available vehicle for establishing widespread immunity. By transmitting the virus to others in the low-risk group who then generate antibodies, they block the network of pathways toward the most vulnerable people, ultimately ending the threat. Extending whole-population isolation would directly prevent that widespread immunity from developing.



    Fact 4: People are dying because other medical care is not getting done due to hypothetical projections.

    Critical health care for millions of Americans is being ignored and people are dying to accommodate "potential" COVID-19 patients and for fear of spreading the disease. Most states and many hospitals abruptly stopped "nonessential" procedures and surgery. That prevented diagnoses of life-threatening diseases, like cancer screening, biopsies of tumors now undiscovered and potentially deadly brain aneurysms. Treatments, including emergency care, for the most serious illnesses were also missed. Cancer patients deferred chemotherapy. An estimated 80 percent of brain surgery cases were skipped. Acute stroke and heart attack patients missed their only chances for treatment, some dying and many now facing permanent disability.

    Fact 5: We have a clearly defined population at risk who can be protected with targeted measures.


    The overwhelming evidence all over the world consistently shows that a clearly defined group - older people and others with underlying conditions - is more likely to have a serious illness requiring hospitalization and more likely to die from COVID-19. Knowing that, it is a commonsense, achievable goal to target isolation policy to that group, including strictly monitoring those who interact with them. Nursing home residents, the highest risk, should be the most straightforward to systematically protect from infected people, given that they already live in confined places with highly restricted entry.

    The appropriate policy, based on fundamental biology and the evidence already in hand, is to institute a more focused strategy like some outlined in the first place: Strictly protect the known vulnerable, self-isolate the mildly sick and open most workplaces and small businesses with some prudent large-group precautions. This would allow the essential socializing to generate immunity among those with minimal risk of serious consequence, while saving lives, preventing overcrowding of hospitals and limiting the enormous harms compounded by continued total isolation. Let's stop underemphasizing empirical evidence while instead doubling down on hypothetical models. Facts matter.

    Scott W. Atlas, MD, is the David and Joan Traitel Senior Fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution and the former chief of neuroradiology at Stanford University Medical Center.
It’s interesting, we know that old people are the most vulnerable but race of people wasnt mentioned.

Let’s watch atl over the next couple of weeks

I also saw a study that people with o-negative blood are more immune then the rest of the population but that study was by a Chinese dr with only around 5000 patients.
 
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Maybe ATL is good for you to move to you, in many ways.....
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Naw that's you homie was it your party that said Men that identify as Women can use women's public restroom that our daughter's and wives use and they are doing away with Yah's law:jbhmm:

Oh yeah that's your party, You got the Urge :scust:
 

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Naw that's you homie was it your party that said Men that identify as Women can use women's public restroom that our daughter's and wives use and they are doing away with Yah's law:jbhmm:

Oh yeah that's your party, You got the Urge :scust:

Nah, if the conservative base has a lot of suspect behaviors like yours, then you need to solve that first.
 

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Nah, if the conservative base has a lot of suspect behaviors like yours, then you need to solve that first.
You standing on Shaky Ground Homie, You Crumbling because you have no solid foundation and Truth Stands, there's no Truth in you with your tactics. Your Cosigning homies left you to fend for yourself. Stand like a Man

Tell me my suspect behavior, Entertain us, I like to know.

I'm not a Conservative Homie

But like Many Traditional Black Family and Strong Black Man, We are social conservative. We believe small government, Man and Woman Marriage, Free Enterprise, entrepreneurship, Right to Bear Arm's, Less Taxes

And I'm also Pro Union, Pro Labor, Equal Housing, Open Election for all political parties, Universal Health care and option to find your own health care across state lines, I'm against racism, sexism and ageism
 
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This Dr is pretty much saying the death rate of CA is minimal as shyt. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 but from the data gathered why did CA extend the shelter in place? The Doc also said the more we test the death rates stays the same even though the # of known cases will go up. Interesting. Haven’t gone through the whole vid yet but this shyt makes me question this shyt even more.

 

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You standing on Shaky Ground Homie, You Crumbling because you have no solid foundation and Truth Stands, there's no Truth in you with your tactics. Your Cosigning homies left you to fend for yourself. Stand like a Man

Tell me my suspect behavior, Entertain us, I like to know.

I'm not a Conservative Homie

But like Many Traditional Black Family and Strong Black Man, We are social conservative. We believe small government, Man and Woman Marriage, Free Enterprise, entrepreneurship, Right to Bear Arm's, Less Taxes

And I'm also Pro Union, Pro Labor, Equal Housing, Open Election for all political parties, Universal Health care and option to find your own health care across state lines, I'm against racism, sexism and ageism

Move to Alabama then. :unimpressed:
 
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