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NYT Article. Behind a paywall so I’ll post it in full

Jared Kushner Is Going to Get Us All Killed
Trump’s son-in-law has no business running the coronavirus response.
By Michelle Goldberg

April 2, 2020
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Jared Kushner in March. He made his debut at the White House coronavirus briefing on Thursday. Pool photo by Evan Vucci
Reporting on the White House’s herky-jerky coronavirus response, Vanity Fair’s Gabriel Sherman has a quotation from Jared Kushner that should make all Americans, and particularly all New Yorkers, dizzy with terror.

According to Sherman, when New York’s governor, Andrew Cuomo, said that the state would need 30,000 ventilators at the apex of the coronavirus outbreak, Kushner decided that Cuomo was being alarmist. “I have all this data about I.C.U. capacity,” Kushner reportedly said. “I’m doing my own projections, and I’ve gotten a lot smarter about this. New York doesn’t need all the ventilators.” (Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country’s top expert on infectious diseases, has said he trusts Cuomo’s estimate.)

Even now, it’s hard to believe that someone with as little expertise as Kushner could be so arrogant, but he said something similar on Thursday, when he made his debut at the White House’s daily coronavirus briefing: “People who have requests for different products and supplies, a lot of them are doing it based on projections which are not the realistic projections.”

Kushner has succeeded at exactly three things in his life. He was born to the right parents, married well and learned how to influence his father-in-law. Most of his other endeavors — his biggest real estate deal, his foray into newspaper ownership, his attempt to broker a peace deal between the Israelis and the Palestinians — have been failures.

Undeterred, he has now arrogated to himself a major role in fighting the epochal health crisis that’s brought America to its knees. “Behind the scenes, Kushner takes charge of coronavirus response,” said a Politico headline on Wednesday. This is dilettantism raised to the level of sociopathy.

The journalist Andrea Bernstein looked closely at Kushner’s business record for her recent book “American Oligarchs: The Kushners, the Trumps, and the Marriage of Money and Power,” speaking to people on all sides of his real estate deals as well as those who worked with him at The New York Observer, the weekly newspaper he bought in 2006.

Kushner, Bernstein told me, “really sees himself as a disrupter.” Again and again, she said, people who’d dealt with Kushner told her that whatever he did, he “believed he could do it better than anybody else, and he had supreme confidence in his own abilities and his own judgment even when he didn’t know what he was talking about.”

It’s hard to overstate the extent to which this confidence is unearned. Kushner was a reportedly mediocre student whose billionaire father appears to have bought him a place at Harvard. Taking over the family real estate company after his father was sent to prison, Kushner paid $1.8 billion — a record, at the time — for a Manhattan skyscraper at the very top of the real estate market in 2007. The debt from that project became a crushing burden for the family business. (Kushner was able to restructure the debt in 2011, and in 2018 the project was bailed out by a Canadian asset management company with links to the government of Qatar.) He gutted the once-great New York Observer, then made a failed attempt to create a national network of local politics websites.

His forays into the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — for which he boasted of reading a whole 25 books — have left the dream of a two-state solution on life support. Michael Koplow of the centrist Israel Policy Forum described Kushner’s plan for the Palestinian economy as “the Monty Python version of Israeli-Palestinian peace.”

Now, in our hour of existential horror, Kushner is making life-or-death decisions for all Americans, showing all the wisdom we’ve come to expect from him.

“Mr. Kushner’s early involvement with dealing with the virus was in advising the president that the media’s coverage exaggerated the threat,” reported The Times. It was apparently at Kushner’s urging that Trump announced, falsely, that Google was about to launch a website that would link Americans with coronavirus testing. (As The Atlantic reported, a health insurance company co-founded by Kushner’s brother — which Kushner once owned a stake in — tried to build such a site, before the project was “suddenly and mysteriously scrapped.”)

The president was reportedly furious over the website debacle, but Kushner’s authority hasn’t been curbed. Politico reported that Kushner, “alongside a kitchen cabinet of outside experts including his former roommate and a suite of McKinsey consultants, has taken charge of the most important challenges facing the federal government,” including the production and distribution of medical supplies and the expansion of testing. Kushner has embedded his own people in the Federal Emergency Management Agency; a senior official described them to The Times as “a ‘frat party’ that descended from a U.F.O. and invaded the federal government.”

Disaster response requires discipline and adherence to a clear chain of command, not the move-fast-and-break-things approach of start-up culture. Even if Kushner “were the most competent person in the world, which he clearly isn’t, introducing these kind of competing power centers into a crisis response structure is a guaranteed problem,” Jeremy Konyndyk, a former U.S.A.I.D. official who helped manage the response to the Ebola crisis during Barack Obama’s administration, told me. “So you could have Trump and Kushner and Pence and the governors all be the smartest people in the room, but if there are multiple competing power centers trying to drive this response, it’s still going to be chaos.”

Competing power centers are a motif of this administration, and its approach to the pandemic is no exception. As The Washington Post reported, Kushner’s team added “another layer of confusion and conflicting signals within the White House’s disjointed response to the crisis.” Nor does his operation appear to be internally coherent. “Projects are so decentralized that one team often has little idea what others are doing — outside of that they all report up to Kushner,” reported Politico.

On Thursday, Governor Cuomo said that New York would run out of ventilators in six days. Perhaps Kushner’s projections were incorrect. “I don’t think the federal government is in a position to provide ventilators to the extent the nation may need them,” Cuomo said. “Assume you are on your own in life.” If not in life, certainly in this administration.
 

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I live in a city that has a very slow curve. We largely have Coronavirus under control.

In 3 weeks, there will be cities that have Coronavirus contained. We will need to implement roadside testing.

Imagine you could do a Coronavirus test in 20 minutes. Set up a check in point on every highway leading into the city, and administer tests. People pass, they can enter the city.

Same thing at airports. Just have screening at every airport. Obviously this is ambitious, but it really depends on the technology. Once they can mass produced 20 minute CV tests in a month :wow:
 

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3:20 is the mental of some in Detroit. I get some are out there b/c they are mourning but still crazy

 

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it’s been airborne this whole time. This is not only a contact type virus. They’ve been putting out disinformation.

We have no leaders. This is an unprecented breakdown at all levels. It’s everyone for themselves - resource up immediately.
Exactly!
Resource up and ignore these fukking propaganda pieces in the media

I read this article this morning and it pissed me off!

So this trash ass article on ABC News is trying to make people feel bad for having pulse oximeters, and scare them out of having them for their families and love ones in this time of crisis

Reasons NOT to have a Pulse Oximeter according to random doctor on abc news
“they are likely not necessary and may make people anxious if they feel the need to frequently check their oxygen levels.”
Uh no.. it actually doesn’t make me feel anxious, quite the opposite random doctor lady

“Keep in mind a pulse ox is only good if you have the ability to supply supplemental oxygen,"

it is not a tool for everyone to have at home because, regardless, if the outcome is your oxygen saturation is low, you will need to go to a hospital."

Uh yea that’s the point. If it gets too low then I’ll know to TAKE MY ASS TO THE HOSPITAL. And If I wasn’t short of breathe or in need of oxygen, they would probably send my ass home so I’m keeping a close eye on breathing and oxygen levels if one of my family members gets sick (knock on wood)

“Having a pulse ox at home may help with your desire to have some control during an overwhelming situation like a pandemic -- but it may also create more stress.”

My pulse oximeter creates more stress? This is basically the first point regurgitated
And Uh .. no it doesn’t lol
:mjlol:

Ok, here’s the agenda.. finally found it .. this is what it’s all about , peep this
“As we expand beds in all these acute care areas that we are creating all over, we won’t have these pulse oximeters built into the walls so we are going to need them on these portable devices," Cioe-Peña said. "Having 90% of America order them on Amazon isn’t going to do us a favor."

Well just fukkin say that from the beginning, don’t wrote 50 million articles talking about masks aren’t helpful, and you shouldn’t use a pulse oximeter, when the truth is .. we fukked up as a nation and don’t have enough basic, cheap, and essential supplies for hospitals and as a result you don’t want citizens to compete with hospitals to buy them.

I’m sorry but we are on our own so I took the last 2 months to get my resources up and these random corporate “doctors” and reporters with agendas ain’t gonna stop me from making sure me and my family got what we need to be safe
 
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