COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

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what number are we at ?
World tracker got it at 463 which is by far the highest total we've had at noon. That's also with Washington states numbers missing and probable underreported ny numbers.

I'm definitely expecting today to be our first 1k day
 

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China Concealed Extent of Virus Outbreak, U.S. Intelligence Says
By
Nick Wadhams
and
Jennifer Jacobs
April 1, 2020, 11:15 AM EDT

  • Report submitted to White House on China’s under-count
  • U.S. has publicly reported more than twice as many cases

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Airport employees wear full body protective suits at Pudong International Airport in Shanghai on March 28. Photographer: Qilai Shen/Bloomberg






China has concealed the extent of the coronavirus outbreak in its country, under-reporting both total cases and deaths it’s suffered from the disease, the U.S. intelligence community concluded in a classified report to the White House, according to three U.S. officials.

The officials asked not to be identified because the report is secret and declined to detail its contents. But the thrust, they said, is that China’s public reporting on cases and deaths is intentionally incomplete. Two of the officials said the report concludes that China’s numbers are fake.



The report was received by the White House last week, one of the officials said.

The outbreak began in China’s Hubei province in late 2019, but the country has publicly reported only about 82,000 cases and 3,300 deaths, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. That compares to more than 189,000 cases and more than 4,000 deaths in the U.S., which has the largest publicly reported outbreak in the world.

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Communications staff at the White House and Chinese embassy in Washington didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.

While China eventually imposed a strict lockdown beyond those of less autocratic nations, there has been considerable skepticism of China’s reported numbers, both outside and within the country. The Chinese government has repeatedly revised its methodology for counting cases, for weeks excluding people without symptoms entirely, and only on Tuesday added more than 1,500 asymptomatic cases to its total.

Stacks of thousands of urns outside funeral homes in Hubei province have driven public doubt in Beijing’s reporting.

Deborah Birx, the State Department immunologist advising the White House on its response to the outbreak, said Tuesday that China’s public reporting influenced assumptions elsewhere in the world about the nature of the virus.

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“The medical community made -- interpreted the Chinese data as: This was serious, but smaller than anyone expected,” she said at a news conference on Tuesday. “Because I think probably we were missing a significant amount of the data, now that what we see happened to Italy and see what happened to Spain.”

China is not the only country with suspect public reporting. Western officials have pointed to Iran, Russia, Indonesia and especially North Korea, which has not reported a single case of the disease, as probable under-counts. Others including Saudi Arabia and Egypt may also be playing down their numbers.

Read More: Mapping the Outbreak Across the World

U.S. Secretary of State Michael Pompeo has publicly urged China and other nations to be transparent about their outbreaks. He has repeatedly accused China of covering up the extent of the problem and being slow to share information, especially in the weeks after the virus first emerged, and blocking offers of help from American experts.

“This data set matters,” he said at a news conference in Washington on Tuesday. The development of medical therapies and public-health measures to combat the virus “so that we can save lives depends on the ability to have confidence and information about what has actually transpired,” he said.

“I would urge every nation: Do your best to collect the data. Do your best to share that information,” he said. “We’re doing that.”



Stop helping western governments covering up their failure by pinning all the blame on China. South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, and Vietnam received the same data from China yet they manage to prepare themselves. Western countries should take this L.
 

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Stop helping western governments covering up their failure by pinning all the blame on China. South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, and Vietnam receive the same data from China yet they manage to prepare themselves. Western countries should take this L.


This guy gets it.

Anyone who goes off on China without holding the US government accountable for protecting it's citizens is a moron.
 

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I'm so pissed off I want to strangle every Republican I see. This country's leaders have completely failed the people. If there's any kind of Justice in this world they would all be hung on live TV so the whole world can watch the fukkers die.

trump is now talking about war with iran
 

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Stop helping western governments covering up their failure by pinning all the blame on China. South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, and Vietnam receive the same data from China yet they manage to prepare themselves. Western countries should take this L.


Amen. That shyt is tacky as hell and poorly timed.

I don't give a good got damn about politicizing this. I don't care who is at fault, or if there even is fault to be placed. I only care about the solution and people recovering asap. This finger pointing and piling on is trash.
 

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Stop helping western governments covering up their failure by pinning all the blame on China. South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, and Vietnam received the same data from China yet they manage to prepare themselves. Western countries should take this L.


South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and Vietnam are also in close proximity with China and know their tactics first hand. Taiwan specifically is viewed as part of China despite having declared their independence. They knew on Day 0, that whatever China said could not be trusted. It's ok to not know everything, but throwing around patently false claims is worse. The geopolitical tension in the region is why some responded better than others.
 

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Really really ignorant perspective that you have. It’s not about being scared it’s about taking the proper precautions to protect other people
I guess your online “chastising” of me makes you feel better sir?
 
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