Corporate Dems giving Jeff Bezos $10B and more handouts ( America COMPETES Act of 2022)

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I really don’t get what the fukk neoliberals believe in or want. At least with the right you know it’s fascism, racism and privatization of Public assets. Neoliberals just don’t do shyt at all especially to republicans but push back heavy any time a progressive rightfully wags their finger at their stupid shyt.

Imagine being against any of this

Sanders’ first amendment “would prevent microchip companies from receiving taxpayer assistance unless they agree to issue warrants or equity stakes to the federal government,” he explained. “If private companies are going to benefit from over $53 billion in corporate welfare, the financial gains made by these companies must be shared with the American people, not just wealthy shareholders.”

“In other words, all this amendment says is that if these companies want taxpayer assistance, we are not going to socialize all of the risks and privatize all of the profits,” he added. “If these investments turn out to be profitable as a direct result of these federal grants, the taxpayers of this country have a right to get a return on that investment.”

The second amendment “would simply eliminate the $10 billion bailout for Jeff Bezos to fly to the moon,” Sanders said, acknowledging the billionaire’s personal wealth. “If Mr. Bezos wants to go to the moon, let him use his own money, not the taxpayers’.”
 

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I really don’t get what the fukk neoliberals believe in or want. At least with the right you know it’s fascism, racism and privatization of Public assets. Neoliberals just don’t do shyt at all especially to republicans but push back heavy any time a progressive rightfully wags their finger at their stupid shyt.

Imagine being against any of this

Sanders’ first amendment “would prevent microchip companies from receiving taxpayer assistance unless they agree to issue warrants or equity stakes to the federal government,” he explained. “If private companies are going to benefit from over $53 billion in corporate welfare, the financial gains made by these companies must be shared with the American people, not just wealthy shareholders.”

“In other words, all this amendment says is that if these companies want taxpayer assistance, we are not going to socialize all of the risks and privatize all of the profits,” he added. “If these investments turn out to be profitable as a direct result of these federal grants, the taxpayers of this country have a right to get a return on that investment.”

The second amendment “would simply eliminate the $10 billion bailout for Jeff Bezos to fly to the moon,” Sanders said, acknowledging the billionaire’s personal wealth. “If Mr. Bezos wants to go to the moon, let him use his own money, not the taxpayers’.”
All of this is dishonest.

The complaint is that none of these Amendments were going to pass. If he's going to hold up legislation as the chair of a committee i need to see more than performative victories.
 
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None of y'all cared about this or even mentioned it when it passed the house.

In fact before this thread the only mention of this legislation was a guy complaining about purchasing reptiles.:mjlol:

Bipartisan legislation passed that's supported by the majority of Americans.

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The Iraq war and the dismantling of Glass-Stegall was also bipartisan. What point are you trying to make here? Most Americans barely understand this stuff and think it benefits them when it doesn't in any way, shape or form.

Imagine caring more about working with actual fascists and robbing public coffers to enrich capitalists that won't be sharing that wealth at all than actually making sure the bill is written in a way that actually helps the American people. What a trash take
 
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All of this is dishonest.

The complaint is that none of these Amendments were going to pass. If he's going to hold up legislation as the chair of a committee i need to see more than performative victories.

What about it is dishonest? As @Rhakim said, what exactly do you disagree with here? You can't disapprove anything he's saying because history has shown it plays out exactly like he's saying every time. It's ridiculous stuff. Let's be honest here, you do not know more about this than Bernie Sanders guy who's been in doing this for longer than most of us have been alive does. So I really don't think you want to go down that road.
 

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What about it is dishonest? As @Rhakim said, what exactly do you disagree with here? You can't disapprove anything he's saying because history has shown it plays out exactly like he's saying every time. It's ridiculous stuff. Let's be honest here, you do not know more about this than Bernie Sanders guy who's been in doing this for longer than most of us have been alive does. So I really don't think you want to go down that road.
Read nikka. Y'all have created your own strawman that's so far off its laughable.
I think folks agree with the sentiment, but if this leads to jobs for poor Americans especially those in the hard hit manufacturing industry I doubt they care because they are very much aware of how capitalism works. :francis:


The pragmatic solution here would be to require companies to provide workers with bonuses and stock (no matter their employment status) for companies receiving these grants.

What's the realistic goal here?
 
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Read nikka. Y'all have created your own strawman that's so far off its laughable.

"if this leads to jobs" Sanders is literally telling you that won't be the case and because of who the messenger is you just decided to do the piss and moan because once again this is your blind spot.

If you're crafting legislation there should be no "If this leads to jobs" there should be hard numbers in there about how many jobs this creates, no outsourcing, % of people from the local area that have to be hired in order to fullfill the contract etc. You out here talking about "if this leads to jobs" :heh:
 
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Taking aim at microchip firms, the senator said that “providing $53 billion in corporate welfare to an industry that has outsourced tens of thousands of jobs to low-wage countries and spent hundreds of billions on stock buybacks with no strings attached may make sense to some people, but it does not make sense to me, nor do I think it makes sense to the American people.”

READ THE fukkING ARTICLE DUDE. He literally laid out for you why what you're saying is bullshyt in the first paragraph.

"If this leads to jobs" There shouldn't be a fukking if, when you're just handing out fukking cash

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"if this leads to jobs" Sanders is literally telling you that won't be the case and because of who the messenger is you just decided to do the piss and moan because once again this is your blind spot.

If you're crafting legislation there should be no "If this leads to jobs" there should be hard numbers in there about how many jobs this creates, no outsourcing, % of people from the local area that have to be hired in order to fullfill the contract etc. You out here talking about "if this leads to jobs" :heh:
You don't think this legislation will lead to jobs?:comeon:

His complaint is that we should not provide these businesses with Corporate welfare because they have outsourced jobs previously which lead to a decline in American manufacturing.:comeon:

English not your first language or are you high right now?
 
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You don't think this legislation will lead to jobs?:comeon:

His complaint is that we should not provide these businesses with Corporate welfare because they have outsourced jobs previously which lead to a decline in American manufacturing.:comeon:

English not your first language or are you high right now?
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Taking aim at microchip firms, the senator said that “providing $53 billion in corporate welfare to an industry that has outsourced tens of thousands of jobs to low-wage countries and spent hundreds of billions on stock buybacks with no strings attached may make sense to some people, but it does not make sense to me, nor do I think it makes sense to the American people.”

READ THE fukkING ARTICLE DUDE. He literally laid out for you why what you're saying is bullshyt in the first paragraph.

"If this leads to jobs" There shouldn't be a fukking if, when you're just handing out fukking cash

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Voters Support the America COMPETES Act
By Devi Ruia

In February, the House of Representatives passed the America COMPETES Act, based on its counterpart that passed the Senate in June, the U.S Innovation and Competition Act (USICA). This legislation would invest in American competitiveness, domestic manufacturing, job creation, and research and development.

New polling from Data for Progress finds a strong majority of voters support the America COMPETES Act. Voters support the bill by a +65-point margin, including Democrats by a +78-point margin, Independents by a +63-point margin, and Republicans by a +53-point margin.

We also find a majority of voters overwhelmingly support the key provisions of the America COMPETES Act. Among voters:

75 percent support investing in research and development for clean energy.

74 percent support expanding educational outreach for women and minorities in STEM.

71 percent support providing pathways to citizenship for entrepreneurs.

69 percent support preventing corporations from using government funding to buy stocks or pay shareholders.

68 percent support providing pathways to citizenship for international students with advanced degrees in STEM.


Domestic job creation is a more compelling aspect of the America COMPETES Act among voters than the focus on American competitiveness with nations like China. We find a majority of voters think job creation is more convincing than competitiveness abroad by a +32-point margin, including Democrats by a +39-point margin, Independents by a +28-point margin, and Republicans by a +27-point margin.

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THis literally tells me nothing. :mjlol:

Why the fukk are you like this? Bernie Sanders is not a fukking bad faith actor. If he's telling you there are no strings attached to this money being handed to corporations you should believe him.
Pass popular legislation and keep it moving.
This is popular legislation.

The things he is bringing up should have been handled when the bill was written. Not after it passed the house.

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You're still not posting anything. What does this bill actually do other than hand cash to corporations. What standards are we holding them to? Are they allowed to outsource with this money? Are there hard numbers they have to work to in terms of manufacturing, job creation, and ROI?

You're posting a bunch of bullshyt like we're these paste eater voters who don't post in here and read this shyt every day my guy. You're being stupid and I know you're not this fukking dumb.
 
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