Coronavirus Thread: Worldwide Pandemic

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I have friends in Italy and they're starting to get on edge

They're not worried about getting sick but the curfew, not being able to travel, do routine things and stuff like that is starting to get to them. Grocery stores are super hit or miss and lots of empty shelves. That's all I can remember off the top of my head. They're in Milan which is a major city and capital of Lombardy.

Accurate. My family is still on lockdown. Supermarkets are basically empty. Theyre gonna have to eat more than pasta at some point. I have a very old family member there that i am concerned about specifically.
 

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An average of 5-10 thousand people are dying from the flu monthly since October. And nobody give a shyt... but you worrying about testing 5,000 people and only 17 dying? Whereas MILLIONS are affect of the flu and possibly the Coronavirus too due to them having similar symptoms and are RECOVERING from it? It is an OVER-RE-ACTION!

Read the latest report that is made for China where the so-called virus originated

China has recorded more fully recovered coronavirus patients than people still infected, suggesting it is overcoming the epidemic
I'm with you

This is getting overblown

There a likely a shytload of people who have it and don't have any symptoms or have mild symptoms. These people aren't being counted in the fatality rate.

If there was comprehensive testing we'd have a lower fatality rate not a higher one

That said you should still be careful and take common sense precautions. We should all pitch in until the government gets its act together
 

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Now you just throwing up numbers... "34 times deadlier".. fucck out of here! If that was the case then the death toll in the United States would of been more rapid and affecting way more than just elderly people with preconditioned health problems. And we see which been killing more that currently NOT getting the media coverage, travel ban and market collapse.


Preliminary In-Season 2019-2020 Flu Burden Estimates


CDC estimates* that, from October 1, 2019, through February 29, 2020, there have been:
34,000,000 – 49,000,000
flu illnesses

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16,000,000 – 23,000,000
flu medical visits

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350,000 – 620,000
flu hospitalizations

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20,000 – 52,000
flu deaths

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The Coronavirus isn't nearly hitting those types of numbers in the United States and the likelihood that it won't. But carry on in believing the media push of fearmongering. And I'm not even saying the Conronavirus is weak, or that influenza is stronger. I'm noting that we have massive numbers YEARLY over the death of the flu that we just take for granted, but we automatically want to close down festivals, call a state of emergency or even make ridiculous considerations of closing attendance to NBA games over this overreaction while the death toll in the United States is just 17 within arguably two months that the virus been known to be in the U.S. Meanwhile hundreds to thousands of people are currently dying of the flu as we speak and not a care in the world in speaking on that. You see the approximate numbers by the CDC from last October to just a week ago. 20-50 thousand flu deaths.

either you are a retard or just very stubborn. :snoop:


there's an actual DATA. 3.4% death rate is 34 times higher than .1%. at least that's the number so far. :mindblown:


and let's pretend the media never created the word 'coronavirus' or 'covid 19'. let's just pretend people thought this was a flu. no hysteria, no panic, no nothing. hell, let's just say this happened in 1918. wouldn't this virus kill whole lot more people because it's as infectious(if not more) and has higher death rate?

people panic cuz this ain't no damn flu. there's no vaccine. there's no treatment. when elderly catches this thing 1 out of 6 of them die. and we got alot of old people in this country.


This is not a goddam rocket science :ohlawd:
 

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either you are a retard or just very stubborn. :snoop:


there's an actual DATA. 3.4% death rate is 34 times higher than .1%. at least that's the number so far. :mindblown:


and let's pretend the media never created the word 'coronavirus' or 'covid 19'. let's just pretend people thought this was a flu. no hysteria, no panic, no nothing. hell, let's just say this happened in 1918. wouldn't this virus kill whole lot more people because it's as infectious(if not more) and has higher death rate?

This is not a goddam rocket science :ohlawd:

That's not actual data

Only severe cases and people with real symptoms are being tested

There was another study last week that said 1.4%

On the cruise ships the mortality rate was 1%

It's likely to be below 1% once we have an actual sense of it's incidence
 

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I'm with you

This is getting overblown

There a likely a shytload of people who have it and don't have any symptoms or have mild symptoms. These people aren't being counted in the fatality rate.

If there was comprehensive testing we'd have a lower fatality rate not a higher one

That said you should still be careful and take common sense precautions. We should all pitch in until the government gets its act together



that's like saying if there was a vaccine this is probably nothing but a flu. :what:
 

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That's not actual data

Only severe cases and people with real symptoms are being tested

There was another study last week that said 1.4%

On the cruise ships the mortality rate was 1%

It's likely to be below 1% once we have an actual sense of it's incidence

so far it's 3.4% breh. that's the actual data we have. 106000 contacted 3600 dead. if china or any other country is under reporting the case number then they probably under reported the death. and you can't just pick and choose countries. Italy has much higher death rate then Japan. we have much higher death rate than s. korea. so we really can't pick and choose. and we absolutely have no idea how this is spreading in under developed country yet. what happens it spreads in mumbai?

and even if it's just 1% that's still 10 times the rate of flu which is just .1% we don't know the actual data of spanish flu. there's a report of 2-3%, but there's also a report of just 1%.


also the study says coronavirus has R0 is 2-3 people. that's higher than flu's 1.3. i don't know how valid this is, but they are really saying this is more infectious than flu.


so it's stupid to downplay the severity of this pandemic.
we don't need to panic. but we just have to be very very careful.
 

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so far it's 3.4% breh. that's the actual data we have. 106000 contacted 3600 dead. if china or any other country is under reporting the case number then they probably under reported the death. and you can't just pick and choose countries. Italy has much higher death rate then Japan. we have much higher death rate than s. korea. so we really can't pick and choose. and we absolutely have no idea how this is spreading in under developed country yet. what happens it spreads in mumbai?

and even if it's just 1% that's still 10 times the rate of flu which is just .1% we don't know the actual data of spanish flu. there's a report of 2-3%, but there's also a report of just 1%.


also the study says coronavirus has R0 is 2-3 people. that's higher than flu's 1.3. i don't know how valid this is, but they are really saying this is more infectious than flu.


so it's stupid to downplay the severity of this pandemic.
we don't need to panic. but we just have to be very very careful.

It's clear that it will affect different countries differently . Countries with shytty health care like Iran will be more affected. So what?

And no, underreporting is more likely to lower the fatality rate, not raise it. Mild cases are not being reported because it's a new virus.

Being careful is good. If you're under 50 and have no health complications, wash your hands, don't touch your face, and don't travel to Italy. You probably won't get it and even if you do it won't be a big deal, but you should be careful anyways so you don't spread it. Locking yourself in your apartment and getting into fighhts over toilet paper is retard shyt

If you're in a high risk group (i.e., old as fukk or shytty immune system) stay at home and be extra careful, don't go to places with large crowds, if you go out be extra careful with washinn your hands etc
 

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that's like saying if there was a vaccine this is probably nothing but a flu. :what:
The point is that people with light or no symptoms are not getting tested and they are not counted in the fatality rate.
 

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That's not actual data

Only severe cases and people with real symptoms are being tested

There was another study last week that said 1.4%

On the cruise ships the mortality rate was 1%

It's likely to be below 1% once we have an actual sense of it's incidence


This is a data we got. same with the johns hopkins one.
Coronavirus Update (Live): 106,465 Cases and 3,600 Deaths from COVID-19 Wuhan China Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

it's probably not accurate. but that's what we got so far.

this really is a flu on steroids even with 1% rate. hell korea only has .6% death rate and that's still 6 times higher than flu.
 

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This is a data we got. same with the johns hopkins one.
Coronavirus Update (Live): 106,465 Cases and 3,600 Deaths from COVID-19 Wuhan China Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

it's probably not accurate. but that's what we got so far.

this really is a flu on steroids even with 1% rate. hell korea only has .6% death rate and that's still 6 times higher than flu.

It's likely to be deadlier than the flu because it seems more contagious, but it also targets different people (flu can kill kids, this doesn't seem to affect kids at all)

6x or even 10x is not that meaningful when you're talking about such small percentages

I think the cruise ship diamond princess is a really good indicator. A 1% death rate, but that's in a very confined area
 

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It's clear that it will affect different countries differently . Countries with shytty health care like Iran will be more affected. So what?

And no, underreporting is more likely to lower the fatality rate, not raise it. Mild cases are not being reported because it's a new virus.

Being careful is good. If you're under 50 and have no health complications, wash your hands, don't touch your face, and don't travel to Italy. You probably won't get it and even if you do it won't be a big deal, but you should be careful anyways so you don't spread it. Locking yourself in your apartment and getting into fighhts over toilet paper is retard shyt

If you're in a high risk group (i.e., old as fukk or shytty immune system) stay at home and be extra careful, don't go to places with large crowds, if you go out be extra careful with washinn your hands etc


it also applies to flu. countries with a shyty lifestyle and healthcare will have higher death rate then healthier country. and some countries with a shiity government will just report this as a damn flu. i mean imagine if you are a small country with only revenue is a tourism. they will do whatever it takes not to report anything. we got alot of shady countries out there.
 

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nice word of wisdom brehs


my biggest worry is that a nikka could go around spread da shyt out of the virus and he won't even know it. and that's why we all have to take this seriously. don't touch the door knob, don't touch face, don't shake hands, stay 4 feet away from people, wash hands frequently for 20 seconds, wear masks, and so on. it's really not that hard. i'm already used to it.
 
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