Poetical Poltergeist
Precise and cold hearted
I just meant in general bruh. Yeah that's a long ass flight, how u been feeling?
Coronavirus Thread: Worldwide Pandemic
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Poetical Poltergeist
Precise and cold hearted
Smart man.Going out to… get food and my dry cleaning
Got invited to a party in DC with 15 people. All vaxxed and taking rapid tests today but I’m
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
Smart call. I was about to spend New Years watching the new Cobra Kai with a long term FWB that I haven’t seen in a while, but my roommate has covid really bad right now, and I thought I’d be a dikk to go risk spreading it to her if I’m asymptomatic.be insane brehs
not only am I not going out, ain't allowing anyone over for a week
Doing the right thing isn’t always easy
Not bad, slightly congested, but my son has been coughing on me all Christmas week but my Antigen tests last week and yesterday were negative, as were his.
I expect if it's something, the PCR test I took today will pick it up. Either way, I won't fly unless I have the all clear.
Got myself some drinks. Not going out, especially with my area getting Winter Advisory/Storm, and Negative degree Wind Chills this weekend. Just not worth it with everyone coming down with COVID.
Mofos think it’s a game
GnauzBookOfRhymes
Superstar
Did you read your own post?
Every. Single. Post. Or. Comment. I. Make. In. This. Thread. Always. Stipulates. That. Everyone. Who. Is. Eligible. Should. Be. Vaccinated. And. Boosted.
Any child in the hospital is a tragedy. But we cannot orient society in a way to accommodate people who refuse to take the most basic steps to protect themselves and their families. Think about how many things we tolerate as a society even though we realize that many kids can end up hurt. We do so bc we recognize that there are compelling interests on the other side. It doesn't mean we're indifferent, and frankly I interpret it as a sign of insecurity in one's own argument if your response is basically "obviously you don't care about kids being hospitalized/dying."
I guarantee you that in retrospect we're going to find out that the most under reported and appreciated aspect of covid will be how much it exacerbated the already wide gap between educational outcomes of lower income/poor kids who are overwhelmingly in districts ran by white liberals who take their cues from social media, vs kids fortunate enough to not have their educational experience held hostage to the whims of the perpetually anxious.
What really kills me is how yall ignore an entire library's worth of research suggesting that remote learning is associated with significant learning loss and substantial increases in everything from anxiety, depression and suicidal ideation to weight gain/obesity etc.
And for many kids, schools are one of, if not the only "safe" places they can be. They are guaranteed to be fed (food insecurity skyrocketed during pandemic), shielded from cold (utility shutoffs didn't just go away), in an environment that is responsive to specific individual needs (kids with special education requirements, or schools that provide mental health services) and a place where the government has a responsibility to report or mitigate issues that might otherwise be ignored at home (such as suspected child abuse).
So yes, I do believe that these concrete, easily identifiable interests are ultimately more important/compelling then an ambiguous hope/belief that keeping kids home will be the straw that breaks covids back.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
I knew you'd ignore the part where only 14% of 5-11 year olds are vaxxed and 53% of 12-17 year olds.Did you read your own post?
Every. Single. Post. Or. Comment. I. Make. In. This. Thread. Always. Stipulates. That. Everyone. Who. Is. Eligible. Should. Be. Vaccinated. And. Boosted.
Any child in the hospital is a tragedy. But we cannot orient society in a way to accommodate people who refuse to take the most basic steps to protect themselves and their families. Think about how many things we tolerate as a society even though we realize that many kids can end up hurt. We do so bc we recognize that there are compelling interests on the other side. It doesn't mean we're indifferent, and frankly I interpret it as a sign of insecurity in one's own argument if your response is basically "obviously you don't care about kids being hospitalized/dying."
I guarantee you that in retrospect we're going to find out that the most under reported and appreciated aspect of covid will be how much it exacerbated the already wide gap between educational outcomes of lower income/poor kids who are overwhelmingly in districts ran by white liberals who take their cues from social media, vs kids fortunate enough to not have their educational experience held hostage to the whims of the perpetually anxious.
What really kills me is how yall ignore an entire library's worth of research suggesting that remote learning is associated with significant learning loss and substantial increases in everything from anxiety, depression and suicidal ideation to weight gain/obesity etc.
And for many kids, schools are one of, if not the only "safe" places they can be. They are guaranteed to be fed (food insecurity skyrocketed during pandemic), shielded from cold (utility shutoffs didn't just go away), in an environment that is responsive to specific individual needs (kids with special education requirements, or schools that provide mental health services) and a place where the government has a responsibility to report or mitigate issues that might otherwise be ignored at home (such as suspected child abuse).
So yes, I do believe that these concrete, easily identifiable interests are ultimately more important/compelling then an ambiguous hope/belief that keeping kids home will be the straw that breaks covids back.
But keep writing novels about why it's more important for them to spread this around like a cold because we can risk some kids dying and having potential long term disabilities from COVID because being in school is more important than being alive or healthy.
GnauzBookOfRhymes
Superstar
I didn't ignore it. The vaccine is available for those kids as well. They have events at schools to give the vaccines. It's available at every pediatric doctor's office/clinic. There are school districts that will give the shot to the kids during school hours. At the beginning of every year many parents send an annual health/physical report to the school which confirms they are up to date on vaccines etc, so it's not like it is an issue of access etc.
The crazy part is that even with those abysmally low vaccination rates, although kids represent appx 20% of the reported cases they were only between 2-4% of all hospitalizations. And remember that the data never distinguishes between hospitalization FOR covid vs kids who were hospitalized for some other reason and discovered to also be covid positive.
Since the beginning of the pandemic, according to CDC the number of deaths for school aged kids (between 5-18) is a grand total of......558. Out of more than 800,000.
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-Focus-on-Ages-0-18-Yea/nr4s-juj3
Do you really think it's possible to completely eliminate the risk? I am really trying to understand your line of thinking. What is the number that would give you confidence that in school learning is safe? I'm trying to argue with numbers/facts/logic but all I 'm hearing from you is ad hominem/straw man.
Do you think that ppl who bring up the negative consequences of remote learning are just making it up or are those societal costs tolerable?
I think we don't understand the long term consequences of all these kids who contract COVID and if it leads to learning disabilities, which some studies suggest, there's no point in having them in classrooms.
This disease is unlike anything we've experienced in our lifetimes but people keep acting like it's a completely normal thing. We haven't seen the last of the mutations either.
GnauzBookOfRhymes
Superstar
So what do you propose? On one hand we have data/experience. On the other we have fear of the unknown/unproven.
Nobody is acting like it's completely normal. That's a straw man.
And your comment about mutations is a red herring.
Back to back logical fallacies.
But that's what happens when a controversy is no longer about the facts, and instead devolves intro signaling tribal solidarity.
Got it around Christmas I'm guessing. My dad tested positive so we all got tested. Mom, brother, SIL, everyone else was good except he and I.
We both had symptoms similar to a sinus infection and honestly didn't think much of it considering it's been warm and a good campfire Christmas night.
My vaccine symptoms were worse for me Tbh. Sucks to get it, but glad it was very mild.
