Copa América 2024 [6/20-7/14] “Coming 2 America” (Final: Argentina/Colombia)

[Black Magisterialness]

I didn’t get to watch the game had to work. Were we complete outclass or did we put up a fight?

And ugly ass COMEBOL game where the US had a couple of looks but didn't finish. Uruguay ultimately scored off a dubious set piece but it was all under the veneer of a really shyt camera and a ref that seemingly just learned the rules like a week ago.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

I was thinking about this the other day. All the athletic brothers in America, we should have had a Vini Jr by now. Like damn

Youth soccer expensive as hell you not getting no vini jr Messi or Ronaldo from the slums at them prices

 

[Black Magisterialness]

I was thinking about this the other day. All the athletic brothers in America, we should have had a Vini Jr by now. Like damn

Too much bifurcation of athletic talent
Too expensive in the US for poor kids to play
MLS is nowhere near as cool or electrifying as NBA/NFL
School/College soccer systems put way too many miles on kids bodies and they aren't playing against elite competition.
Coaching is too self-indulgent to develop raw athletes into technical players/too much dependency on athleticism.
Kids don't learn tactics at a young age.


I could go on and on man.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

Too much bifurcation of athletic talent
Too expensive in the US for poor kids to play
MLS is nowhere near as cool or electrifying as NBA/NFL
School/College soccer systems put way too many miles on kids bodies and they aren't playing against elite competition.
Coaching is too self-indulgent to develop raw athletes into technical players/too much dependency on athleticism.
Kids don't learn tactics at a young age.


I could go on and on man.

Exactly until we get serious about lower the cost to play soccer will be just like baseball where we get guys who are there because their parents had money there is no way that group is the best soccer players we could’ve developed outta 340 million people

 

[IIVI]

There is no way to really build a special soccer player.

Because you can basically be average height and dominate, your competition will be about 8 billion people.

Either you're going to "chosen" to be special where the game is just so incredibly easy for you to the point that it's disrespectful for the other 8 billion people to be on the field with you, or not.

Messi was an average-looking Spanish/Italian was doing this:


That's just not physical attributes, that's just chunking the game in an incredible way, seeing, processing and playing with the situation in ways other players are not even thinking about. It's not that he grew up in a soccer family or had brothers who played soccer either, a lot of people grew up the same way in areas that loved soccer even more, with better coaches - and they're no Messi.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

There is no way to really build a special soccer player.

Because you can basically be average height and dominate, your competition will be about 8 billion people.

Either you're going to "chosen" to be special where the game is just so incredibly easy for you, or not.

I agree my thing is we just limit our pool so much like for football the entry fee is like 150-200 bucks soccer is just way more expensive

 

[Born2BKing]

Exactly until we get serious about lower the cost to play soccer will be just like baseball where we get guys who are there because their parents had money there is no way that group is the best soccer players we could’ve developed outta 340 million people

This is facts. These cac travel baseball teams have really made it hard for little brehs to have a chance. Lil kids be 10 years old and they parents taking them across the country for tournaments.

 

[Mister Terrific]

US is always gonna be a man down against South America. Trying for get back because their dad got put in Guantanamo in the 80’s.

 

[Mister Terrific]

 

[Bigwhite2498]

This is facts. These cac travel baseball teams have really made it hard for little brehs to have a chance. Lil kids be 10 years old and they parents taking them across the country for tournaments.

Fr and those idiots on Reddit don’t realize that they comeback is always well well the mls academies made their teams free but like there’s what 29 teams with 3 in Canada so really 26 how tf is that gonna cover all of America one and what about the players who don’t live close to an mls team

 

[IIVI]

I agree my thing is we just limit our pool so much like for football the entry fee is like 150-200 bucks soccer is just way more expensive

Yeah, although even then nobody is guaranteed to be special even if they have governments trying to build them up.

There are players of all walks of life who have had parents and coaches spend probably over a million dollars on them total and they aren't anything special. shyt, there are a lot of countries who have expended a lot of money on their soccer teams and they've never got real close to a World Cup.

That's one crazy thing I've learned about soccer, it can literally be anyone.

 

[concise]

US is always gonna be a man down against South America. Trying for get back because their dad got put in Guantanamo in the 80’s.

This is half the story, crafted by trolls.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

Yeah, although even then nobody is guaranteed to be special even if they have governments trying to build them up.

There are players of all walks of life who have had parents and coaches spend probably over a million dollars on them total and they aren't anything special.

That's one crazy thing I've learned about soccer, it can literally be anyone.

What gets me the most is when the U.S. soccer fans and I see this a lot on Reddit be like it don’t matter even if we got a tyreek hill or Lebron type, tho lebron probably would be to big to play, they wouldn’t have the skill but as you showed in that video Messi was playing since a jit imagine if we just got one or two of our kids from poverty to start that early most can’t start till like high school or middle school

 

[Adonai]

Copa has been way more entertaining than the Euros. Central & South American fukkery is unmatched.


But on a serious note. Once USA went down to 10 against Panama and Turner got injured it was game over.

 

[BigMan]

I was thinking about this the other day. All the athletic brothers in America, we should have had a Vini Jr by now. Like damn

Soccer is not just about athleticism ; this narrative needs to stop

Skill and tactics> brawn