Conway the Machine - God Don't Make Mistakes (Discussion Thread)

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I’m looking forward to this hopefully he got that track on there with the soulful beat that sounded like Drake would be on it.
 

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I’m thinking it would’ve been a good look to have kilo in the trunk on this one since it has q on it and hall and nash 2 will probably nvr see the light of day. :mjcry:That’s the type of track u save for the major label album. Just sounds like a big album material banger. :scust:But he probably has bangers like that spread out through the album. Just cuz conway releases so many 9 or 10 track projects it wouldve been nice to have 14 tracks
 
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I’m thinking it would’ve been a good look to have kilo in the trunk on this one since it has q on it and hall and nash 2 will probably nvr see the light of day. :mjcry:That’s the type of track u save for the major label album. Just sounds like a big album material banger. :scust:But he probably has bangers like that spread out through the album. Just cuz conway releases so many 9 or 10 track projects it wouldve been nice to have 14 tracks
I know I probably sound like a know it all way too much on here, but with the bit of insider info I’ve had access to, I was really fukking shocked to see how much this tracklist was like the original one.

there’s a lot of the stuff that’s on here that I thought for sure it would get cut for not being able to clear the samples.

and I’m not trying to push you to be on some “be happy with what we have“ type shyt, because I’m dying to hear that kilo in the trunk joint in CD-quality.

but I was really nervous that we would lose songs on here like guilty, stress, piano love, John Woo Flick, Tear Gas, and even the title track.

I had a bad feeling for a little bit that when we saw the tracklist it was going to be all produced by beat Butcher /Daringer together. I was worried he was going to have to swap out the original production and have them remixed by those guys with no samples.
 

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I know I probably sound like a know it all way too much on here, but with the bit of insider info I’ve had access to, I was really fukking shocked to see how much this tracklist was like the original one.

there’s a lot of the stuff that’s on here that I thought for sure it would get cut for not being able to clear the samples.

and I’m not trying to push you to be on some “be happy with what we have“ type shyt, because I’m dying to hear that kilo in the trunk joint in CD-quality.

but I was really nervous that we would lose songs on here like guilty, stress, piano love, John Woo Flick, Tear Gas, and even the title track.

I had a bad feeling for a little bit that when we saw the tracklist it was going to be all produced by beat Butcher /Daringer together. I was worried he was going to have to swap out the original production and have them remixed by those guys with no samples.
Ive heard stress once and im really happy the last track and piano love are going to be on this. Im still pretty skeptical about that tear gas track i feel like the first two or three tracks should be straight hard bangers lol i was thinking about that buck the world album:dame::whoa: how the first three tracks on that album just set that shyt off (not that i listen to that album anymore).. That second song (Tear Gas) even if it fit it shouldve been a bonus or somewhere else on the album. The only reason it probably beat out other tracks on the album is because it has a big name rapper on it. Not trying to be a hater its probably a dope track. The sample is something ive heard before as well i just cant figure it out right now. but either way the album as a whole should be 4.5 mics at the least.
 
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@TheDarceKnight this nikka has so many tapes in the stash, is this the "major" one he was talking about dropping, the one that supposedly had drake on it?
Yessir. I know it's been a lot to keep up with. This is the one that has been talked up by him as his official album on Shady Records. It's kind of ironic, because it'll probably be his only project to not get a vinyl pressing (knowing how Shady did the albums with all 3 members and the Westside Shady album), but yeah.

The timing was supposed to have been Lulu, From King to a God, and then this album here in 2020. A lot of King to a God and God Don't Make Mistakes were recorded in the same time frame, and the original idea was for King to a God to almost be a Disc 1 and God Don't Make Mistakes would be a Disc 2. He's said to think of those 2 projects as a basically a double album. God Don't Make Mistakes darker and more introspective than King to a God. Half the songs on here are pretty heavy or sad. It's kind of like Life After Death Discs 1 and 2, honestly.

The tape with Big Ghost and then La Maquina came about from the long red-tape time on God Don't Make Mistakes.

God Don't Make Mistakes has really gone through hell and back. Shady never wanted to clear any samples at all, and Conway has gone into his own pockets in order to clear some of them. Other songs just weren't able to be cleared no matter what. I know it's been a long wait, but at any point he could've just said fukk it and made a bunch of sample-free joints with Beat Butcher producing like what Westside did on his Shady album, but Conway took forever to try and get this to sound as much like he intended as possible.

This isn't exactly how he wanted it to end up, but it's way closer than I thought it was gonna be.
 
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Is there a Release date? I damn near only listen to Griselda these days
Not yet, but I honestly wouldn't expect to see one until 48-72 hours before the albums drops.

The past two Griselda releases on Shady had the Friday release dates announced on Weds of the same week.

So I wouldn't expect much of a head's up on this.
 

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Yessir. I know it's been a lot to keep up with. This is the one that has been talked up by him as his official album on Shady Records. It's kind of ironic, because it'll probably be his only project to not get a vinyl pressing (knowing how Shady did the albums with all 3 members and the Westside Shady album), but yeah.

The timing was supposed to have been Lulu, From King to a God, and then this album here in 2020. A lot of King to a God and God Don't Make Mistakes were recorded in the same time frame, and the original idea was for King to a God to almost be a Disc 1 and God Don't Make Mistakes would be a Disc 2. He's said to think of those 2 projects as a basically a double album. God Don't Make Mistakes darker and more introspective than King to a God. Half the songs on here are pretty heavy or sad. It's kind of like Life After Death Discs 1 and 2, honestly.

The tape with Big Ghost and then La Maquina came about from the long red-tape time on God Don't Make Mistakes.

God Don't Make Mistakes has really gone through hell and back. Shady never wanted to clear any samples at all, and Conway has gone into his own pockets in order to clear some of them. Other songs just weren't able to be cleared no matter what. I know it's been a long wait, but at any point he could've just said fukk it and made a bunch of sample-free joints with Beat Butcher producing like what Westside did on his Shady album, but Conway took forever to try and get this to sound as much like he intended as possible.

This isn't exactly how he wanted it to end up, but it's way closer than I thought it was gonna be.
I'm not a Drake stan, like at all, but it's interesting him giving guys like Griselda focus compared to the music he makes and what he chooses to jump on (trendy, radio shyt). Is the Drake feature still somewhere in the air, does WSG or Benny have it?
 

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Yessir. I know it's been a lot to keep up with. This is the one that has been talked up by him as his official album on Shady Records. It's kind of ironic, because it'll probably be his only project to not get a vinyl pressing (knowing how Shady did the albums with all 3 members and the Westside Shady album), but yeah.

The timing was supposed to have been Lulu, From King to a God, and then this album here in 2020. A lot of King to a God and God Don't Make Mistakes were recorded in the same time frame, and the original idea was for King to a God to almost be a Disc 1 and God Don't Make Mistakes would be a Disc 2. He's said to think of those 2 projects as a basically a double album. God Don't Make Mistakes darker and more introspective than King to a God. Half the songs on here are pretty heavy or sad. It's kind of like Life After Death Discs 1 and 2, honestly.

The tape with Big Ghost and then La Maquina came about from the long red-tape time on God Don't Make Mistakes.

God Don't Make Mistakes has really gone through hell and back. Shady never wanted to clear any samples at all, and Conway has gone into his own pockets in order to clear some of them. Other songs just weren't able to be cleared no matter what. I know it's been a long wait, but at any point he could've just said fukk it and made a bunch of sample-free joints with Beat Butcher producing like what Westside did on his Shady album, but Conway took forever to try and get this to sound as much like he intended as possible.

This isn't exactly how he wanted it to end up, but it's way closer than I thought it was gonna be.
Why shady didn’t want to clear the samples ?
 

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Why shady didn’t want to clear the samples ?
If I'm missing something maybe @Piff Perkins can chime in, but basically...most major labels at this point have artists signed to them that don't use a lot of samples, OR, don't use a lot of samples that are difficult to get cleared.

Music doesn't make nearly as much money on its own as it did in the 1990's and the 2000's. It used to be worth it to give bigger budgets to clear samples, because albums generated a lot more revenue. Now days, an artist like Conway isn't going to make Shady that much money off streaming numbers or vinyl sales, etc. Shady just doesn't want to shell out thousands of dollars to an artist like Conway to clear samples, when they can sign an artist like Boogie that is happy to not even use samples to begin with.

Clearing samples is just an extra bit of trouble in 2021. 95% of the music we all listen to these days that uses samples did not clear those samples. Basically every hip-hop release that drops on the underground/indie scene has none of the samples cleared. The labels and artists and producers just cross their fingers that the owners of the samples either don't notice, or if they do notice...that they realize it's probably not worth the money to sue over it.

A few songs from Benny, Westside, Skyzoo, Che Noir, and Apollo Brown have all got removed from streaming platforms in the past year because people that got sampled realized it, and it wasn't cleared, and they sent cease and desist letters.

Websites like Whosampled can actually cause a lot of trouble right now for this reason. Old school artists that are regularly sampled look at websites like that to find out where their stuff has been used recently.
 
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