Essential Conspiracy Thread

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It's crazy how alleged conspiracies turn out to be true...

The government purposely infecting its citizens with disease - CHECK

The government illegally spying on and collecting info on its citizens - CHECK

Elite financial networks exploiting the masses for profit with the help of the government - CHECK

Elite international pedo ring including celebrities and world leaders - CHECK

I'm just waiting on the aliens to show up :coffee:
Word .. where is all them ppl that swear every thing is fine and conspiracy theorists are crazy
 

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What do you think the end game with this Covid hysteria? When people are operating from a place of fear rationality and higher intellect goes out of the window so its not easy for people to see they've been had because smokes and mirrors can make anything look like something when in reality it could be nothing, or at the very least not what you think.

Before you get up in your feelings, I'm not saying that there isn't viral aspect. What I am saying is that its threat is ridiculously overblown for other more covert reasons. Can you see them?
 

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The storyline to the geopolitical events in the last few years and it’s all coming to a head at this point in time
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How stupid would it be, if this was a real conspiracy, for the people whose deaths were faked by the government to keep their same name afterwards? :mindblown:

Why wouldn't NASA have just given them a new name to make it a tiny bit harder for some random internet troll to find them? :wtf:




What about all the other members?
It's pretty easy to debunk breh, considering that both the astronauts and their supposed "twins" were public people with real lives.

The Judith Resnick who was an astronaut was an electrical engineer in the 1970s and 1980s until she entered astronaut training. The Judith Resnick who was teaching law at Yale was....teaching law at Yale. Judith the Law Professor was literally writing law review articles and teaching students in classes in Connecticut at the same time that Judith the astronaut was doing astronaut training in Florida. How could she have been two different people doing two different things in two different places simultaneously?

If it was a conspiracy then it would have been exposed IMMEDIATELY, way back in 1984, because when Judith the astronaut was making public appearances and shyt all of her students and colleagues would have said, "She's not an engineer, she's our law professor!"

Same goes for everyone else in the video. It's pretty easy to find their live histories. You'd have to believe that entire worlds were fabricated and everyone at those schools, workplaces, families, neighbors, etc. is lying to perpetuate this. It's ridiculous because they're not unknown or hidden people.

PolitiFact - Conspiracy theorists peddle fake claim about the 1986 Challenger Space Shuttle disaster


Crazy how most of them had a twin, huh?:pachaha:
It's not crazy when he did stupid shyt like just using their brother and claiming it was them. Carl McNair is Ronald McNair's brother. Claude Onizuka is Ellison Onizuka's brother. These are known people who have appeared in public paying tribute to their deceased siblings, who have their own known lives, associations, etc. Since they are brothers they look somewhat similar, but not exactly the same.

if it was a true conspiracy, then all it would take is ONE person to say, "Hey, I grew up with Ellison and he didn't have no brother named Claude, where's this guy coming from?" "Hey, I went to school with Ronald and he didn't have a brother named Carl!"

How would you retroactively fabricate the astronauts' entire lives to give them fake siblings that weren't actually there before so the astronauts could assume the identity of this newly created sibling?

Outside of when they used the actual brothers, some of those people don't even look alike at all.
 
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This video is good balance for my conspiracy folks. Lots of good info to consider.



Not a single dap besides me. People don't want the real knowledge that comes from study nowadays, they want goofy theories by ill-informed guys making up shyt from their basement.
 

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It's crazy how alleged conspiracies turn out to be true...

The government purposely infecting its citizens with disease - CHECK
That the government has purposely infected its own citizens with disease has been known for decades. No new information has come up recently.



The government illegally spying on and collecting info on its citizens - CHECK
That the government illegally spies and collects info on its citizens has been known for decades. It gets progressively worse over time but I haven't seen any high-profile "conspiracy theory" that predicted what was happening faster than the media was reporting it.



Elite financial networks exploiting the masses for profit with the help of the government - CHECK
How is that a conspiracy? That's just "how everyone knows the world works". :mjlol:



Elite international pedo ring including celebrities and world leaders - CHECK
That Epstein was a pedo and was in close contact with world leaders has been known since 2005. The real shyt came long BEFORE the unrelated conspiracy theory, not after. :comeon:



You really gotta come up receipts showing that any of these were prominent "conspiracy theories" before they were mainstream.
 

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That the government has purposely infected its own citizens with disease has been known for decades. No new information has come up recently.




That the government illegally spies and collects info on its citizens has been known for decades. It gets progressively worse over time but I haven't seen any high-profile "conspiracy theory" that predicted what was happening faster than the media was reporting it.




How is that a conspiracy? That's just "how everyone knows the world works". :mjlol:




That Epstein was a pedo and was in close contact with world leaders has been known since 2005. The real shyt came long BEFORE the unrelated conspiracy theory, not after. :comeon:



You really gotta come up receipts showing that any of these were prominent "conspiracy theories" before they were mainstream.


I don't think mainstream America knows its government (and some corporations, with the assistance of the government) have purposely infected people with disease in the past. I bet they would be hard pressed to name one instance.

Government illegally spying and collecting info on citizens was a major conspiracy theory around the original Patriot Act days, now it is common knowledge and an accepted practice.

The degree to which financial networks were recklessly exploiting the system with the help of the government didn't become really mainstream until Occupy Wall Street, before that--conspiracy theory.

An international pedo ring with confirmed high profile participants including high level government, european royalty, big corporate leaders, military, etc., was definitely a conspiracy theory for a long time, with some smoke here and there but nothing exposed to the mainstream like Epstein.
 

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I don't think mainstream America knows its government (and some corporations, with the assistance of the government) have purposely infected people with disease in the past. I bet they would be hard pressed to name one instance.

Government illegally spying and collecting info on citizens was a major conspiracy theory around the original Patriot Act days, now it is common knowledge and an accepted practice.

The degree to which financial networks were recklessly exploiting the system with the help of the government didn't become really mainstream until Occupy Wall Street, before that--conspiracy theory.

An international pedo ring with confirmed high profile participants including high level government, european royalty, big corporate leaders, military, etc., was definitely a conspiracy theory for a long time, with some smoke here and there but nothing exposed to the mainstream like Epstein.

Mainstream America doesn't know where Azerbaijan is, that doesn't make the location of Azerbaijan a conspiracy. :francis:

The shyt you listed was all shyt that informed Americans talked about and discussed seriously already. So what if it wasn't mainstream?

And you keep going back to Epstein and ignoring that Epstein was first arrested for procuring underage girls for prostitution in 2005, and his high-level connections have been a topic of conversation ever since. It far predates the modern "conspiracy theory".

I mean come on, the first "Q" post was October 2017. Compare that to the timeline of people attacking Prince Andrew's connections to Jeffrey Epstein:

BBC News reported that Prince Andrew's friendship with Jeffrey Epstein, an American financier and convicted sex offender, was producing "a steady stream of criticism" in March 2011, with calls for him to step down from his role as trade envoy.[46] The Duke was also criticized in the media after Sarah Ferguson disclosed that he helped arrange for Epstein to pay off £15,000 of her debts.[47][48] Prince Andrew had been photographed in December 2010 strolling with Epstein in Central Park during a visit to New York City.[49] In July 2011, the Duke's role as trade envoy was terminated and he reportedly cut all ties with Epstein.[46][50]

On 30 December 2014, a Florida court filing by lawyers Bradley J. Edwards and Paul G. Cassell alleged that Prince Andrew was one of several prominent figures, including "a former prime minister"[51] and lawyer Alan Dershowitz, to have participated in sexual activities with a minor later identified as Virginia Roberts Giuffre,[52] who was allegedly trafficked for sex by Epstein.[53] An affidavit from Giuffre was included in an earlier lawsuit from 2008 accusing the U.S. Justice Department of violating the Crime Victims Rights Act during Epstein's first criminal case by not allowing several of his victims to challenge his plea deal; the Duke was otherwise not a party to the lawsuit.[54]

In January 2015, there was renewed media and public pressure for Buckingham Palace to explain Prince Andrew's connection with Epstein.[55] Buckingham Palace stated that "any suggestion of impropriety with underage minors is categorically untrue", later repeating the denials.[56][57] Requests from Giuffre's lawyers for a statement from the Duke, under oath, about the allegations were returned unanswered.[58][59]

Dershowitz vehemently denied the allegations in Giuffre's statement and sought disbarment of the lawyers filing the suit.[60][61][62] Edwards and Cassell sued Dershowitz for defamation in January 2015; he countersued.[63] The two parties settled in 2016 for an undisclosed financial sum.[64] Epstein sued Edwards for civil racketeering but later dropped his suit; Edwards countersued for malicious prosecution with the result that Epstein issued a public apology to the lawyer in December 2018.[65][66]

Giuffre (then known by her maiden name Virginia Roberts) asserted that she had sex with Prince Andrew on three occasions, including a trip to London in 2001 when she was 17,[67] and later in New York and on Little Saint James.[68] She alleged Epstein paid her $15,000 to have sex with the Duke in London.[67] Flight logs show the Duke and Giuffre were in the places she alleges the sex happened.[69][70] Prince Andrew and Giuffre were also photographed together with his arm round her waist and included an Epstein associate, Ghislaine Maxwell, standing in the background,[71] though Andrew's supporters have repeatedly claimed the photo is fake and edited.[72] Giuffre stated that she was pressured to have sex with the Duke and "wouldn't have dared object" as Epstein, through contacts, could have her "killed or abducted". The allegations have, as of early 2015, not been tested in any court.[73]

On 7 April 2015, Judge Kenneth Marra ruled that the "sex allegations made against Prince Andrew in court papers filed in Florida must be struck from the public record".[74][75] Marra made no ruling as to whether claims by Giuffre are true or false, specifically stating that she may later give evidence when the case comes to court.[76] Giuffre stated she would not "be bullied back into silence."[77]

In August 2019, court documents associated with a defamation case between Giuffre and Maxwell revealed that a second girl, Johanna Sjoberg, gave evidence alleging that Prince Andrew had placed his hand on her breast while in Epstein's mansion posing for a photo with his Spitting Image puppet.[78] Later that month, the Duke released a statement, emphasizing that, "At no stage during the limited time I spent with [Epstein] did I see, witness or suspect any behaviour of the sort that subsequently led to his arrest and conviction," though he expressed regret for meeting him in 2010 after Epstein had already pleaded guilty to sex crimes for the first time.[79] By the end of August 2019, The New Republic also published an email exchange between John Brockman and Evgeny Morozov from September 2013 in which Brockman mentions seeing a British man nicknamed "Andy" receiving a foot massage from two Russian women at Epstein's New York residence during his last visit to the mansion in 2010. He then added that he "realized that the recipient of Irina's foot massage was His Royal Highness, Prince Andrew, the Duke of York".[80]

The reality came way before the conspiracy.
 
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