OperationNumbNutts
Superstar
Just playing devil's advocate but you do have blacks thinking race based programs are doing more harm than good. That has been a quiet discussion for a very long time.
Conservative Virginia group files lawsuit to end Black student achievement program.
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Politicians haven't done a good job explaining the difference between "fair" and "equal" when it comes to policy.
White people always scream that shyt is unfair and its technically right, but what are looking for isn't fairness its equality,
If you give White person and a black both the same exact opportunities to finish a footrace, technically thats fair right? But what they take into account is that they have had a 400 year head start and they are basically starting the race at the finish line already, So being fair still puts us a a disadvantage.
Equality would mean taking their headstart into account and giving us a boost so we both have an equal shot at winning the race.
This is chess versus checkers. It's not about helping black people. It's about preserving resources for themselves. In other words, ending race based eligibility for whatever program will eventually make more room for the people leading these lawsuits. Understand the game.
It's a waste and a dumb move, because they dont have the numbers or power they had in the past for any kind of long game. THey're not even top achievers in their own country anymore. It's behavior of a dying dominant culture, smarter move would be at least pretending to want to work with opposition. This is more like go down fighting in a losing battle.
Formerly Black Trash
Philosopher, Connoisseur, Future Legend
Blood to their base
Exactly. This shyt is neverending.This is chess versus checkers. It's not about helping black people. It's about preserving resources for themselves. In other words, ending race based eligibility for whatever program will eventually make more room for the people leading these lawsuits. Understand the game.
LIFE ON THIS PLANET IS A BATTLE FOR RESOURCES. Full stop.
It’s always going to be team white against team black. All the other races are scrambling to avoid being grouped in with us to remain in the good graces of white (supremacy).
There is no utopia coming. If they wanted a level playing field it would’ve happened centuries ago.
Oh nah, this Trump stuff is totally on Black men
but thank you for acknowledging that!When I talk about us, I mean a lot of Black women aren’t taught to think critically when it comes to men/dating, so that’s why you see so many making silly/obvious mistakes that other races don’t.
But this political shyt is really opening my eyes because I don’t understand how so many ppl are falling for this shyt.
Vote for the republicans to spite the party that is NOT trying to end/take away whatever initiatives we have that benefit us? Shyt is ridiculous.
We have several inclusive, merit based, worldclass programs.
Have a look.
What we found is people with brown skin born and raised thousands of miles away in foreign lands understandably assumed that programs like the one in the OP were made for them and their offspring too, so we have programs with clear verbiage in place now, to stop the confusion.
Programs like the one I posted are open to all Virginia residents though, regardless of homeland.
Have a look.
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www.doe.virginia.gov
What we found is people with brown skin born and raised thousands of miles away in foreign lands understandably assumed that programs like the one in the OP were made for them and their offspring too, so we have programs with clear verbiage in place now, to stop the confusion.
Programs like the one I posted are open to all Virginia residents though, regardless of homeland.
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They're about to have SCOTUS locked for a half century if Trump wins. They're attacking anything they believe helps Black people disproportionally, let alone exclusively. They neutered discrimination law. They neutered federal regulators. They're giving state legislatures more power over elections. They're using school boards to rewrite school curriculum to favor white conservative ideology. They're banning books. All of that is playing the long game.
Yeah, it may be "behavior of a dying dominant culture", but it presents an threat nonetheless.
Writing these people off is unwise.
HarlemHottie
Uptown Thoroughbred
Ofc, you would. If anything, this is an indictment of the lawmakers who wrote the legislation that funded the program.
Yes, it's the literal definition of racist to single out one race for benefit. It should have never been written that way, Law is intended to be precise. See below.
Our legal designation is "[American] freedmen."
CHAP. XC.–An Act to establish a Bureau for the Relief of Freedmen and Refugees.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That there is hereby established in the War Department, to continue during the present war of rebellion, and for one year thereafter, a bureau of refugees, freedmen, and abandoned lands, to which shall be committed, as hereinafter provided, the supervision and management of all abandoned lands, and the control of all subjects relating to refugees and freedmen from rebel states, or from any district of country within the territory embraced in the operations of the army, under such rules and regulations as may be prescribed by the head of the bureau and approved by the President.
The Freedmen's Bureau Act, March 3, 1865
In March 1863, the U.S. Congress created a new agency within the War Department, the Bureau of Refugees, Freedmen and Abandoned Lands
www.freedmen.umd.edu
They’ve never truly been the top achievers; they’ve killed, enslaved, stole, etc to gain and maintain their position. So they will continue doing that. That’s the point.
There’s still more of them than us. They don’t need to pretend to work with us if they don’t want to.
OperationNumbNutts
Superstar
In bold. Sorry but you are clearly missing the point and the game. They do have the power. What people fail to realize is the power of infrastructure. Infrastructure as in a conversative supreme court, conservative federal judges, and countless money donated to spearhead initiatives like these. Their game is wide open and people still don't see it. This isn't a last ditch effort which is a popular talking point. We are seeing decades in the making of putting the right pieces together to make this happen. In other words, the fruits from their labor are paying off.
Piff Perkins
Veteran
Exactly. Trump appointed 218 judges in four years, who will be on courts doing shyt like this for the next 40 years. For comparison, Biden has appointed 203 so far. Obama appointed 160 in 8 years, thanks to republicans blocking virtually all of his nominations once they took the senate. That's really the ball game for how a lot of shyt in this country is gonna go over the next decade plus. They have no real legislative agenda, beyond tax cuts. Their entire plan revolves around getting insane judges to make terrible rulings and then kicking it to the Supreme Court to decide. That's how they shytcanned Roe v Wade, that's how they've tried to shytcan gay marriage. And that's how they're trying to shytcan the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, and even Brown v Board Of Education.
There are a couple ways to avoid that legal buzzsaw. One is making sure republicans don't take the White House again. The other is getting your people into positions of power with the ability to open the door for us. This is not me making a "you need to be inside the system to change it" argument. I'm just saying you want a black person at the USDA rubber stamping loans for black farmers. You want a black person at the SBA making sure black people get business loans. This is literally how Italians and Jews went from facing wild discrimination to building power in New York.
And you don't promote this shyt with wack headlines about black exclusive loans. You promote this shyt in the barbershops and churches. Where white people aren't. It's a grassroots process and I think many of us are already doing it. You ever been at the barbershop and seen someone get hooked up with an opportunity at a factory, or the post office, or a security job etc? We need more of that shyt on a massive scale.
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