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That is probably the premier demonstration of the Dunning-Kruger Effect in our era. Chomsky had told him repeatedly even before he started talking that he wasn't interested in publicizing a private exchange, and Harris kept begging him to publish it, even as Harris looked worse and worse as the exchange went on. The ending was especially hilarious:
The Limits of Discourse | Sam Harris
To: Sam Harris
Very glad to see that we are terminating this interesting non-interchange with a large measure of agreement. I agree with you completely that we cannot have a rational discussion of these matters, and that it is too tedious to pretend otherwise. And I agree that I am litigating all points (all real, as far as we have so far determined) in a “plodding and accusatory way.” That is, of course, a necessity in responding to quite serious published accusations that are all demonstrably false, and as I have reviewed, false in a most interesting way: namely, you issue lectures condemning others for ignoring “basic questions” that they have discussed for years, in my case decades, whereas you have refused to address them and apparently do not even allow yourself to understand them. That’s impressive.
There’s also no other way to pursue your various evasions of the “basic question” that arises right at the outset of the passage of mine that you quoted. No need to run through this again, but the plodding review makes it clear that you simply refuse to answer the question, perhaps not surprisingly.
I’ll put aside your apologetics for the crimes for which you and I share responsibility, which, frankly, I find quite shocking, particularly on the part of someone who feels entitled to deliver moral lectures.
And I’ll also put aside your interesting feeling that you see no challenge when your accusations are refuted point by point, along with a demonstration that you are the one who refuses to address the “basic questions” that you charge me with ignoring, even after you have learned that I had dealt with them quite specifically before you wrote, and in fact for decades.
It would also be interesting if, someday, you decide actually to become concerned with “God-intoxicated sociopaths,” most notably, the perpetrator of by far the worst crime of this millennium who did so, he explained, because God had instructed him that he must smite the enemy.
To: Noam Chomsky
Noam —
I’m afraid I won’t take the bait, apart from asking the obvious question: If you’re so sure you’ve acquitted yourself well in this conversation, exposing both my intellectual misconduct with respect your own work and my moral blindness regarding the actions of our government, why not let me publish it in full so that our readers can draw their own conclusions?
Sam
To: Sam Harris
The idea of publishing personal correspondence is pretty weird, a strange form of exhibitionism – whatever the content. Personally, I can’t imagine doing it. However, if you want to do it, I won’t object.
To: Noam Chomsky
Understood, Noam. I’ll let you know what I do.
Sam
Sam publishes. The internet in general, including all but his most committed fanboys, destroys him.
May 3, 2015
Even my own fans have been destroying me for publishing this embarrassing expose of my own inadequacies. I feel the need to write a long explanation for why I published this exchange that puts me in such a terrible light. Perhaps I did misrepresent Chomsky, but only a tiny tiny bit. Perhaps I did ignore most of Chomsky's concrete points, but I have good excuses for doing so. Perhaps my efforts to tone police Chomsky allowed me to dodge his points, but that wasn't my intention. All the problems in this exchange were clearly Chomsky's fault.
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You have Noam fukking Chomsky on the line and you are so embarrassing idiotic that you can't even get the man to take you seriously. Always makes me smile.
@BoBurnz @Rhakim we talked about it live
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tra...harris-and-noam-chomsky.315239/#post-13229875
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tra...harris-and-noam-chomsky.315239/#post-13229875
Man Nap has been on his greatest hits for a minute now.I've seen some takes, but the audacity to bad mouth Noam Chomsky is just next level. "Chomsky never offers solutions" what a mush brained, patently false, brain dead thing to post. It's so perfectly on brand of him getting the depth of his politics from twitter threads that I can't help but marvel at the stupidity. Of course he's a "big fan" of Sam Harris.
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