Confederate Flag Debate
- Thread starter Axolotl
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Sbp
Superstar
Ban them shyts and keep it moving 
the confederates were traitors and losers
all you need to know is that the same people who whine about NFL players kneeling, have no problem with the flag that was flown to betray the american flag
all you need to know is that the same people who whine about NFL players kneeling, have no problem with the flag that was flown to betray the american flag
BaldingSoHard
Veteran
Doesn't really bother me if someone wants to fly it outside their house. 1st amendment and whatnot. But it's outrageous that we still have municipalities in America in 2018 that fly that shyt. gtfoh.
HellRell804
Banned
I know this is the internet where everything is black and white and there's no room for nuance, but the civil war wasn't fought to end slavery. Even Lincoln said if he could end the war without freeing a single slave he would...
With that said, on the issue of a massive powerful federal government vs. Individual states having the right to govern themselves, the South was probably right. The federal government as we know it has only grown larger and more corrupt. And the centralization of all that power has created a class of people who are above regular citizens and above the law...
With that said, on the issue of a massive powerful federal government vs. Individual states having the right to govern themselves, the South was probably right. The federal government as we know it has only grown larger and more corrupt. And the centralization of all that power has created a class of people who are above regular citizens and above the law...
Devilinurear
Veteran
States left to there own devices are just as corrupt so fukk out of here with that bullshyt.
HellRell804
Banned
Yea but the leaders of your state are actually accessible to you. You might see them out shopping or eating. Way easier to hold them accountable vs a group of legacy politicians walked in DC surrounded by secret service
Not to mention, if you don't like the way a state is run you could always move to a state whose government better aligns with your views
UpAndComing
Veteran
Debating with CACs 
I gave the bird to a guy with his confederate flag flying off his truck
He turned around and followed me into my work parking lot
Nothing happened though
fukk him
He turned around and followed me into my work parking lot
Nothing happened though
fukk him
Devilinurear
Veteran
How much access did people have to politicians when jim crow was around and strong.
Was it a state supreme court that decided segregation was wrong and enforced it?
AuntAnniesPretzels
Banned
I’ve done that before
Gotta be careful tho ppl who do shyt like that normally have nothing to lose
He asked me if there was a problem and i said yeah im going to work
The Union didn't originally go to war to end slavery, but that ended up being the goal in the end. And even acknowledging that the North didn't originally go to war to end slavery doesn't preclude the fact that slavery was the cause of the war. Every other factor I'm sure was mentioned in that video would all somehow, someway, tie back into slavery.
HellRell804
Banned
Jim Crow laws were local, meaning if you didn't like it you could move. And lots of black people did move up north and out west.
As far as segregation, I'm on record here saying integration was a mistake. Yea we had less than, but building things always takes time and there are always setbacks. Black people would have been better off doing for self instead of handing over their children and their future to avoid the hard work of being self sufficient