Common really made I used to love her in the middle of a golden era

[BK360NATL]

I wouldn't say everything got love, as much as everything got a more accurate amount of love.

Like DAS EFX. I liked them. Never thought they were a GOAT level group. Even to this day, with nostalgia, people aren't making "is DAS EFX a top 5 group, all time?" threads.

If they did it would get immediately shut down.

But nowadays cats will have 2-3 hit records and get mentioned in the same breath as rappers that been around a decade. Or been around a decade and get thrown in GOAT discussions.

I realize some of that is trolling....but some of it isn't.

Fred.

Das EFX themselves weren't the problem. They blew up off the strength of that different style and flow. To be honest, Jaz-O and Jay-Z did it first. The problem was that record companies ran out and pushed anyone willing to duplicate that type of style immediately after. Das couldn't even get their 2nd album out before 5-10 copycat groups were put out.

Das definitely weren't a top 5 group of all time. There were just a branch of EPMD at the time which also included K-Solo, Redman and Keith Murray. But once corporations dug in, and desperate folks were willing to sign and rap whatever, well, the quality got diluted and quickly. Biting styles became acceptable. To Beatnuts' point, paying dues wasn't cutting it anymore. Anyone could get on with a gimmick. While there were some certified classics during those days that we can still listen to today, there was a lot of trash too. I know, I bought a lot of it and weedplated them too.

And co-signing whoever here said that complaining has been a part of hip hop since its inception. From where did hip hop begin, to who was the best MC, to top 5 GOAT and now top 50 lists, debate and complaining fuels hip hop. It is what it is.

 

[Toe Jay Simpson]

THANK YOU!

The Boss hate was fukking retarded not only did she speak about it on the album

Boss was actually IN THE STREETS after she got out of high school grinding while trying to get a record deal

Her parents having good jobs, living in a nice area (not that nice really just middle class) and putting they daughter in a good school as a child don't have nothing to do with her adult life

 

[ISO]

False equivalence as Com's shyt, while classic, sold like 2,000 first week.
So nah the general consensus wasn't that hip-hop was fukked up in no god damn 1994.

Anybody suggesting otherwise is crazy, or wasn't actually around back then.

Fred.

Hip hop has never been fukked up that’s my point people just love to complain

 

[ISO]

Just skimmed that Bo$$ album, fukking garbage stereotype/cliched as fukk

shyt is c00ning once you take her background into account a minstrel/caricature

 

[Zero]

THANK YOU!

The Boss hate was fukking retarded not only did she speak about it on the album

Boss was actually IN THE STREETS after she got out of high school grinding while trying to get a record deal

Her parents having good jobs, living in a nice area (not that nice really just middle class) and putting they daughter in a good school as a child don't have nothing to do with her adult life

Breh, I could walk past my driveway and be in the streets too :mjharshreality:

 

[TripleAgent]

Masta Ace didn't drop this for no reason

If you told them just how trash shyt would be in 2019, they might have committed that

 

[ahdsend]

One thing I noticed listening to 90s rap is that a lot of rappers already saw where hip hop was headed and were trying to warn listeners. Gang Starr was talking about record companies pushing untalented rappers and not understanding the art form as early as 1991. EPMD talked about needing to be commercial to get lots of airplay and the possibility of rap becoming run by politics in the future.

Looking back, it was definitely the golden age of rap, but I'm pretty sure the people in it recognized that certain problems were starting to pop up. Wasn't there somewhat of a backlash against gangsta rap?

yea the 90s was a decade of rapid change in rap music, as corporate america slowly but surely took over the artform..

gangsta rap problem is it became a caricature of itself, like NWA 2nd album

cuz there's a fine line between social commentary and glorifying the violence/crack dealing, not spittin anything with substance

 

[smokeurobinson]

Deeper is still a classic.

Biggest Hip Hop record of ‘93.

This clown said Deeper was the biggest hip hop record in 93 and OP who wasnt even born dapped that bullshyt.

Throw Ya Guns, Hip Hop Hooray, Dre Day, Protect Ya Neck, How Many Emcees, Today Was A Good Day by Cube......Sound of the police/Black Cop.......Gin And Juice, Keep Ya Head Up/I get Around, For My Homies by DRS, Insane in the Membrane, Electric Relaxation, Back Seat by LL, Ruffneck, UNITY by Latifah, Shoop by Salt N Peppa. 2pac was singing "Gangsta bytch" by Apache in the movie Poetic Justice because the song was major...He wasn't singing Deeper.

This clown really said Deeper was the biggest hip hop record in 93.

 

[L. Deezy]

that's how hip hop and every genre of music has always been. That's why classic albums are classic, they are rare. When Rakim, Kane, Slick rick, etc was dropping the majority of albums were trash.

Huh?

 

[I'm Blackman]

You had to be there. Every album dropping wasn’t a classic like history revises it to be. This was also the first era of the fake MC who fabricated their life to sell records

I remember some chick out on the west coast, she was fine too, got exposed for being a catholic school girl back in the day. CB4 wasn’t a fairy tale, cats just had good beats back then.

You talking about BOSS?

 

[⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

1994 basically making a song talking about how hip hop was fukked up and was getting classic albums from every coast and every type of rap from gangsta to conscious. He was the template for those okayplayer lames who shyt on any none rappity rap elevator music.

"used to love her? mad that we fukked her p*ssy whipped bytch with no common sense"


that was well deserved, bruh been lame since he left Chicago.

That commercial he did for HP or Windows is annoying and cringeworthy

 

[wingzboy]

That shyt sound wack, but it's not even a gangsta rap record, gangsta rap record was a style like trap

shyt like this



You can't be a grown ass man riding around pumping some nikkaZ THAT KILL COME OUT OF YOUR CAR

Just like I can't bump no Down for mY nikkaz today that shyt too ignorant

I use to be a big Three Six fan when I was kid, they music ain't even listenable now, and I understand everybody was telling they wack back then, I just really liked they beats, but that shyt was way too ignorant

Like I don't understand how somebody could listen to Spice 1 on a daily basis without losing they goddamn mind

Biddy bah bah bye bye S P I C E 1

 

[L. Deezy]

Complain about the state of hip hop and then sell out 15 years later

this is not selling out.. its basically a shout out to 80s Zulu nation records

 

[I'm Blackman]

nikkas been complaining about Hip Hop since Hip Hop was invented.

Me, Myself, and I came out in ‘89 complaining about the gold chains and tough guy image in hip hop.

Crossover came out in 92, complaining about nikkas making songs for radio play.

I Used to Love H.E.R in 94

Stakes is High and What They Do in 96

All these was during the “Golden Era”

Same nikkas that was crying back then is crying today.

That’s why I tell these young nikkas to pay the old heads no mind.

Complaining in Hip Hop is tradition.

Realest shyt I've read in the booth in a minute.

 

[Wacky D]

1994 basically making a song talking about how hip hop was fukked up and was getting classic albums from every coast and every type of rap from gangsta to conscious. He was the template for those okayplayer lames who shyt on any none rappity rap elevator music.

"used to love her? mad that we fukked her p*ssy whipped bytch with no common sense"


that was well deserved, bruh been lame since he left Chicago.