Common really made I used to love her in the middle of a golden era

[Playaz Eyez]

I'm glad I'm reading these posts, because although I didnt start listening to full albums until '95 I felt a lot of music was wack when I would walk into the music store, from the little bit I heard.

Every era has had shytty music, it’s just that this current era (well, actually ever since Soulja Boy’s rise) it’s extremely easy to get on, get seen, and actually sustain that success. Previous era rappers died off quickly, were practically ran out of rap and back to regular jobs. Today, they’re pretty much celebrated and could be multiple albums and mixtapes deep.

 

[Rakim Allah]

Nah, the genre of gangsta rap is trash, I mean when you think about 94 the only gangsta rap song that stands the test of time is Regulators, which is barely a gansgta record

When you look at Tupac's classic records none of them are gangsta songs

Changes, Keep your Head up, I ain't mad at ya, I get around, California Love, So many Tears, Dear Mama, etc

ain't no putting gangsta party when they listening to Pac lmao

The Gangsta rap sound trash, you play any of them albums right now the shyt is not listenable, you not gonna bump no Mc Eiht with the windows down lmao, maybe Straight Up Menace but thats it

Gangsta Rap was too vulgar, I mean if you compare those records to rap today, they will not play that shyt in any establishment I mean Po Pimp by Do or Die is way more vulgar than the music today so let that sink through your head

You can still play Tribe Called Quest Music and not look like a damn fool

I bump Compton's Most Wanted all the time. A lot less cussin and wasn't over the top like a lot of gangsta rap from all regions in the mid 90s. Did you funk with them. They had that gangsta boom bap sound before they completely swithed up on Menace (DJ Unknown leaving the production team). I liked both styles but CMW albums were some of the best produced albums in Hip Hop.

The subject matter is terrible but gawd damn this bangs.


Bumped these two joints the other day with tye windows down. Perfect summer joints.









Did you care for "gangsta rap" from the east coast?

 

[Master Teacher]

I bump Compton's Most Wanted all the time. A lot less cussin and wasn't over the top like a lot of gangsta rap from all regions in the mid 90s. Did you funk with them. They had that gangsta boom bap sound before they completely swithed up on Menace (DJ Unknown leaving the production team). I liked both styles but CMW albums were some of the best produced albums in Hip Hop.

The subject matter is terrible but gawd damn this bangs.


Bumped these two joints the other day with tye windows down. Perfect summer joints.









Did you care for "gangsta rap" from the east coast?

To me gangsta rap is sound not a subject matter, MC Eiht was probably a bad example because Straight Up Menace is a classic
I don't put DJ Quik in that category either even though its classified as that, his beats didn't sound "gangsta rap" to me

I'm talking about shyt like this



and this



Like this shyt came out in 96 same year as Reasonale Doubt, shyt is wack, it don't sound like serious music to me

 

[Magnum P.I.M.P.]

To me gangsta rap is sound not a subject matter, MC Eiht was probably a bad example because Straight Up Menace is a classic
I don't put DJ Quik in that category either even though its classified as that, his beats didn't sound "gangsta rap" to me

I'm talking about shyt like this



and this



Like this shyt came out in 96 same year as Reasonale Doubt, shyt is wack, it don't sound like serious music to me

Music ain’t all that serious. It’s entertainment. Regardless though, it is assuredly all music. You just don’t like those songs. Cool.

 

[BlackDroog]

Can't lie...there was A LOT of corny music and too much fake gangsta stuff during that time. mainstream rap got lame in the mid-late 90's but the "Golden Era" speaks to the fact that, despite all of the corny shyt, there was still a very high volume of undeniable classic and highly influential albums that dropped during that time period. And if you compare the best from that decade to the best from the following 2 decades, the 90's "best" are superior to most of them.

and even if you disagree with that based on your preference, it's hard to argue against those albums still being relevant and musically strong now.

In My Opinion the mid to late 2000's is the overall corniest era of rap. Still some great albums but the majority of them were awful and don't stand the test of time. I think the underground has had a serious Renaissance over the past 9 years.

 

[feelosofer]

1994 wasn't the Golden Era, though and the criticisms at the time were valid. Golden era real really ended in 1991-92

Also Common wasn't really dissing gangsta rap per se, he was talking about paper gangstas using Black suffering and caricaturizing it.

 

[feelosofer]

I don't blame them really.

They dropped "Stakes Is High" because Tommy Boy told them to change up their shyt after "Buhloone Mindstate". They were basically told "nobody is feeling your weird shyt any more."

Which is why the album is so angry and hard, by De La standards.

Fred.

I remember when 'Buhloone Mindstate' dropped nobody really knew what to do with that album. Time has been extremely kind to it.

But yes Stake is High remains their magnum opus, imo.

 

[feelosofer]

Like Common was the only rapper to appear on Sesame Street

 

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Quality rap did die after '94, i might even stretch it to early '95, (my
graduation year), but it seems that ever since I went to college in the fall of
'95, 95% of hip hop has been garbage, do y'all agree? Just look at some of the
freshest stuff to come out:

Black Moon - Enta Da Stage
Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die
Beatnuts - Beatnuts E.P.
2Pac - Me Against The World
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Snoop - Doggy Style
The Roots - Do You Want More?!?
Gangstarr - Mass Appeal
Various - Above The Rim Sndtrk
Artifacts - Between A Rock And A Hard Place
Outkast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang 36 Chambers
Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders
Organized Konfusion - Stress
Nas - Illmatic
Common Sense - Resurrection
KRS-1 - Return Of The Boom Bap
Keith Murray - The Most Beatifullest Thing...
Redman - Dare Iz A Darkside

It seems as if in the '93-'94 era, everyone was on top of their game and coming
strong. I also think that that was the last time you could buy any album and
listen all the way through. There are a couple now like Big Pun, Gangstarr,
Rakim, Jay-Z, Commom, but like other than that, the industry is filled with a
lot of garbage... If it wasn't for Rawkus Records and groups like Heiro and
Golden St. Warriors out west, I might have turned to strictly reggae and r&b
and just given up on hip hop. By the way, when are KRS-1 and Rakim going to do
a song together with DJ Premier on the production? Now compare my list of '94
sure shots to today's artists... nobody is hungry anymore, everyone is wearin'
Tommy, cuttin' crack, hoein', and loopin' (not sampling) beats on all of their
tracks. Everything that comes out is a rush job. Look at DMX. Now don't get
me wrong, his album is fresh and deserved platinum status, but his album was
rushed out and if they had taken time with it, it would have been even
fresher... What does everyone else think?

this is kinda on point tho..

 

[Rice N Beans]

He knew what was coming. Albums were just gangsta rap peddling for the most part.

Granted, there's a lot of good material in that era, but it lacked the variety of yester-era's time.

You FF to Hip-Hop Is Dead, same type of issue.

 

[CrimsonTider]

You'd be surprised at how many true hiphop purists think big and pac were overrated.

The only 'mainstream' rappers they mess with are nas, common, and maybe em

that had more to do with bad boy's jiggy image..

his lyrical ability was always respected

i know i was lol

They hated swag, flexing and balling raps

It’s sad that thought real rap was just nikkas rapping about struggling

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

I don't blame them really.

They dropped "Stakes Is High" because Tommy Boy told them to change up their shyt after "Buhloone Mindstate". They were basically told "nobody is feeling your weird shyt any more."

Which is why the album is so angry and hard, by De La standards.

Fred.

That prolly might explain why De La’s classic material have been blackballed from most streaming services for a hot ass minute

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

Looking back on the 90's most of the classics were Eastcoast and South records, The westcoast was hot trash outside of the Snoop Dre, and Pac
as far as albums were concerned

I mean Bow Down dropped in 96, you same year as Reasonable Doubt lmao, is there really a comparison, imagine listening to some goddamn Westside Connection in 2019 that shyt is hot trash

All Cube Music after 92 is hot trash, and not even listenable

Gangsta rap was hot in the beginning but by the time the mid 90's came that shyt was HOT TRASH, I mean go back and listen to some of them records, they ass

The Pharcyde had two dope ass albums out of the West tho. Souls of Mischief and RBL Posse had some good shyt too.

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

mfs riding around bumping drill music today

Where at that’s still stuck in 2014? Even Chicago nikkas don’t be making Drill music no more.

 

[raoulduke187]

every lame mothafukka's always complaining about "the good ol days"