Coli NBA experts: who will have the better season: Derrick Rose or Mike Conley?

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Derrick Rose hasn't been better than Mike Conley in like 4 years

I want him to do well, but I'm not gonna bet on him having a better season
 

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:mjlol: CONLEY IS THE DEFINITION OF AVERAGE.
nikka GOT TWO 30 PT GAMES IN THE LAST 2 YEARS.

IS THIS A JOKE?

ROSE CAN STILL DOMINATE GAMES POST 2 KNEE SURGERIES.


SAW THE DUDE GOING OFF IN THE PLAYOFFS 2 SEASONS AGO
DOING shyt CONLEY COULDNT DO IN ANY LIFETIME.

PLAYED WITH A BROKEN FACE LAST YEAR
AND WENT OFF ONCE HE GOT HIS VISION BACK.

THIS IS DISRESPECTFUL.

AND ROSE HAS ONLY PLAYED 2 SEASONS SINCE THE ACL TEAR
SO IDK WHAT nikkaS TALKING ABOUT
MENTIONING THE LAST 4 SEASONS.
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Chemistry on the Knicks is keeping the ball away from Melo. He likes eating the ball on the wings and its frustrating as fukk.

I am personally glad we got a ball dominant ball hog to keep the ball away from that fukk.

that myth needs to stop last year melo got rid of the ball and his playmaking was at a all time high
 

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:mjlol: CONLEY IS THE DEFINITION OF AVERAGE.
nikka GOT TWO 30 PT GAMES IN THE LAST 2 YEARS.

IS THIS A JOKE?

ROSE CAN STILL DOMINATE GAMES POST 2 KNEE SURGERIES.


SAW THE DUDE GOING OFF IN THE PLAYOFFS 2 SEASONS AGO
DOING shyt CONLEY COULDNT DO IN ANY LIFETIME.

PLAYED WITH A BROKEN FACE LAST YEAR
AND WENT OFF ONCE HE GOT HIS VISION BACK.

THIS IS DISRESPECTFUL.

AND ROSE HAS ONLY PLAYED 2 SEASONS SINCE THE ACL TEAR
SO IDK WHAT nikkaS TALKING ABOUT
MENTIONING THE LAST 4 SEASONS.
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washed, inefficient, injury prone. also one of the most least deserving mvp's ever :umad:
 

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I don't know who will be better... but the difference is, the Knicks don't need Rose to be the 1st or 2nd best player on their team. And if he is... then the Knicks will probably end up top 5 in the East (probably 5). If not, the Knicks could still end up in the playoffs. May not be able to say the same for the Grizzlies and Conley.


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Mike Conley, is the more complete player imo, he doesn't rain down the points but he is efficient, a good passer and he's a better defender than Derrick Rose.
 

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:mjlol: CONLEY IS THE DEFINITION OF AVERAGE.
nikka GOT TWO 30 PT GAMES IN THE LAST 2 YEARS.

IS THIS A JOKE?

ROSE CAN STILL DOMINATE GAMES POST 2 KNEE SURGERIES.


SAW THE DUDE GOING OFF IN THE PLAYOFFS 2 SEASONS AGO
DOING shyt CONLEY COULDNT DO IN ANY LIFETIME.

PLAYED WITH A BROKEN FACE LAST YEAR
AND WENT OFF ONCE HE GOT HIS VISION BACK.

THIS IS DISRESPECTFUL.

AND ROSE HAS ONLY PLAYED 2 SEASONS SINCE THE ACL TEAR
SO IDK WHAT nikkaS TALKING ABOUT
MENTIONING THE LAST 4 SEASONS.
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:evil:


30 point games are not the be all, end all. DeMar DeRozan has had over 3x as many 30 point games over the last two years as Kawhi Leonard. You taking him over Kawhi?

Rose in the 2015 playoffs averaged 6 more points than Conley did on worse efficiency while playing 8 more minutes a game. And his team got knocked out in the same round as Conley's did.
 

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30 point games are not the be all, end all. DeMar DeRozan has had over 3x as many 30 point games over the last two years as Kawhi Leonard. You taking him over Kawhi?

Rose in the 2015 playoffs averaged 6 more points than Conley did on worse efficiency while playing 8 more minutes a game. And his team got knocked out in the same round as Conley's did.

LOL @ THIS FOOLISHNESS
AND THAT SILLY COMPARISON.
CONLEY DOESNT DO ANYTHING BETTER THAN ROSE BUT SHOOT THREES.


ROSE HAD TO GET MENISCUS SURGERY DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON
AND MISSED THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS HEADING INTO THE PLAYOFFS
SO HE STRUGGLED ON 1 DAYS REST DUE TO CONDITIONING.


ROSE BEST GAMES
34 & 8, 52%
31 & 4, 48%

30 & 7, 39%
25 & 5, 43%
23 & 7, 56%


CONLEY BEST GAMES
22 & 3, 67%
18 & 6, 55%
16 & 1, 55%
13 & 5, 50%
14 & 4, 43%


I SEE ONE GUY WHO CAN TAKE OVER PLAYOFF GAMES
AND ANOTHER GUY LIVING UP TO HIS REP AS AVERAGE.
:childplease: BU BUT HE HAD 13 & 5 ON 50% SHOOTING IN 32 MINUTES
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LOL @ THIS FOOLISHNESS
AND THAT SILLY COMPARISON.
CONLEY DOESNT DO ANYTHING BETTER THAN ROSE BUT SHOOT THREES.


ROSE HAD TO GET MENISCUS SURGERY DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON
AND MISSED THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS HEADING INTO THE PLAYOFFS
SO HE STRUGGLED ON 1 DAYS REST DUE TO CONDITIONING.


ROSE BEST GAMES
34 & 8, 52%
31 & 4, 48%
30 & 7, 39%
25 & 5, 43%
23 & 7, 56%


CONLEY BEST GAMES
22 & 3, 67%
18 & 6, 55%
16 & 1, 55%
13 & 5, 50%
14 & 4, 43%


I SEE ONE GUY WHO CAN TAKE OVER PLAYOFF GAMES
AND ANOTHER GUY LIVING UP TO HIS REP AS AVERAGE.
:childplease: BU BUT HE HAD 13 & 5 ON 50% SHOOTING IN 32 MINUTES
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:evil:

No my point is that judging players in a vacuum off how many 30 point games they can put up is stupid. Like I said, it's not the be all, end all. And Conley is a better shooter than Derrick Rose is or ever was, on top of also being a significantly better defensive player than Rose is or ever was.

Conley also actually had to miss several games due to injury during that playoff run but we can ignore that.

I look at the playoff run and I see one guy who was exactly what I said he was: An inefficient chucker. You're pointing out 5 games out of 12. What about the other 7 games aka the majority that Rose played in? You know where he averaged 14 points shooting 33% from the field? I could give a damn if a player can give me 34/8 in a game, if the next night he's liable to have 14 points shooting sub 40% with 8 turnovers while falling asleep on defense at the end and letting his man score the game winning basket.
 

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I never said that I thought he would... I said they don't need him to. Then I said if he ends up being their best player.. blah blah. In my personal opinion, Rose's ceiling is being the 2nd best player on a good team.... ceiling. He'll probably be fighting to be the 3rd option this year. Which os perfectly fine for the Knicks, as long as he's not trash.
Who is Rose fighting with for 3rd option? Barring poor health leaving his spot to Jennings he's behind Melo and if anything will be fighting for #2 with KP
 

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Who is Rose fighting with for 3rd option? Barring poor health leaving his spot to Jennings he's behind Melo and if anything will be fighting for #2 with KP
Has Conley ever been the top option in Memphis?
I mean I'm reading all the replies here and there's this feeling like Rose has peaked and his injuries destroyed him...which it did...but at the same time...Conley is 29 coming off a bad injury. Is he somehow going to be better than he's been over the last 8 or 9 years??

Don't we already know who Mike Conley is??

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Who is Rose fighting with for 3rd option? Barring poor health leaving his spot to Jennings he's behind Melo and if anything will be fighting for #2 with KP
I believe he'd be fighting for 3rd with Jennings and Noah. At least that's where I see him at the beginning of the season. Right now I believe KP is the clear second option, especially after watching some of the adjustments he made during the preseason (attacking smaller guys in the paint, more arc in his 3 point shot, etc.). But maybe Rose will surprise me and play better than I'm expecting... who knows?
 

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I believe he'd be fighting for 3rd with Jennings and Noah. At least that's where I see him at the beginning of the season. Right now I believe KP is the clear second option, especially after watching some of the adjustments he made during the preseason (attacking smaller guys in the paint, more arc in his 3 point shot, etc.). But maybe Rose will surprise me and play better than I'm expecting... who knows?
Rose is gonna be battling Noah and his backup for #3? :dahell:
 

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I believe he'd be fighting for 3rd with Jennings and Noah. At least that's where I see him at the beginning of the season. Right now I believe KP is the clear second option, especially after watching some of the adjustments he made during the preseason (attacking smaller guys in the paint, more arc in his 3 point shot, etc.). But maybe Rose will surprise me and play better than I'm expecting... who knows?


:what: THIS POST IS ALL TYPES OF BAD.

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