Coli Fantasy Baseball Keeper League Season 5 (2014) [DRAFT DONE...now we wait]
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Kang Deezy
Overall Nice Guy
@HHR so if @red222 and @Tommy Fits are out, I get the 1st pick, correct?
okay, dred is out, red222 is staying? I got 3rd pick then, right?
okay, dred is out, red222 is staying? I got 3rd pick then, right?
I'll look for that discussion...what player/case are you concerned about?
I think it has to be this way so a dropped Ryan Braun, for example, doesn't become a 15th round keeper. Or any player who misses a chunk of the season to injury. I don't think the manager should be required to keep them in order to keep them away from the rest of the league...
But isn't that how it SHOULD work? Isn't that part of the strategy? Like with Matt Harvey, for example. I can keep him THROUGH this season, to have him as a mid-round keeper for the following year, or I drop him and see what happens... Isn't that the risk you run by dropping a great player for an injury? Somebody picks him up and gets a value bump?
I could be misreading the idea behind a league like this... but keeping a player's tag after they've been dropped - when they become by definition a free agent - seems to go against the entire strategy behind the keeper league.
Kang Deezy
Overall Nice Guy
It's always been this way in our leagues.
You have to look at through a different prism:
Keeper leagues are based on the previous seasons market demand costs, which themselves are based on a fixed market value cost from BEFORE they every played a game in the previous year.
So when a player is drafted, his forward value is based strictly on speculation, as they have their market set before they ever play a game. A un-drafted free agent is a player who was deemed not valuable enough by all players to spend a draft pick on, so according to the same rules, he has a preseason value just like a drafted player, it's just zero.
A drafted player who was since waived has a value as well, and it was set BEFORE he played a game....his being on waivers has zero effect on his preseason value, which is what you base keeper values on for the next season. So if you change the cost structure on waivers pick ups, you are in effect judging one player's value on a different scale than everyone else s.
Draft Order:
"Expansion" Team (DRed)
Red/Red's replacement
Bergin/TommyFits/replacement
Morse Code
Giants/Ysej/Replacement
Give me pujols/DANJA/Replacement
Cleesh
I.V.
Faygo
K-O-B's replacement
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Landry
HHR aka
Where you pick will depend on number of new managers and which teams they take over.
But you'll be no worse than 4th...and probably higher.
We should recruit the following guys to join... @tremonthustler1 @Captain_Crunch @The War Report
I know where you're coming from, but your example is flawed.
First off, mid-season drops are different than not keeping someone. And players who are going to miss the rest of this upcoming season are also different.
If you hold on to Harvey, he still holds tremendous keeper value to you. Braun/Kemp/Bautista/etc as a 1st rounders doesn't really have that same value. But they would have ridiculous value as 15th round players. And the player who had to drop them wouldn't have any shot at them because of Yahoo rules.
Furthermore, a player who was dropped and added would have their "contract" reset, which would allow someone to keep Ryan Braun has a 15th rounder for 2 years. That's an absurd advantage imo.
Hypothetically we could make them lose keeper status if they cleared waivers, but that would give a huge advantage to whoever stays up until 4AM refreshing their browser over and over
And I would definitely be that guy.And I think what Kev was saying is that we've always ran it this way.
For example....I had Jose Bautista last year. I dropped him once he was declared out for the season because I wasn't going to keep him as a 1st rounder.
No one picked him up.
If the league were like you suggested/were mistakenly told, there would have been a WAR to claim him after he cleared waivers. That didn't happen and he stayed a FA for the rest of the season.
No one picked him up.
If the league were like you suggested/were mistakenly told, there would have been a WAR to claim him after he cleared waivers. That didn't happen and he stayed a FA for the rest of the season.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
I'm interested. I just have 2 questions:Draft Order:
"Expansion" Team (DRed)
Red/Red's replacement
Bergin/TommyFits/replacement
Morse Code
Giants/Ysej/Replacement
Give me pujols/DANJA/Replacement
Cleesh
I.V.
Faygo
K-O-B's replacement
Listen
Landry
HHR aka
Where you pick will depend on number of new managers and which teams they take over.
But you'll be no worse than 4th...and probably higher.
We should recruit the following guys to join... @tremonthustler1 @Captain_Crunch @The War Report
1. When is the draft?
2. When do I need to pay?
No date set yet, it will be the middle of March...between 15-21.
As far as payment....someone didn't pay until they won money last year lol. Ideally I'd like to have all payment by the draft, but within a month of that works too...we've been lenient.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
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