Coli brehs assured me that the mainstream media are left leaning then how do you explain the incessant anti Biden attack since the debate and . . .

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You explain it by understanding these conversations are very real and there is a serious push by the left to get Biden to step down.


Big time leftist donors are withdrawing funding because this is a very real thing and most people voted for not Trump instead of Biden in the first place so most people don't really want Biden (or any real policy). They just want not Trump.


The only thing I disagree with is the timing. Shoulda been a full court press beginning 2023. Biden was a trash/10 President. I guess they thought an ambush at the end would be a more effective tactic at getting this dusty old cac outta there. We'll see:yeshrug:
 
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yep. the zaslav effect. even before he took over, cnn weren't exactly left leaning then either.

Former cnn boss, zucker, was a close friend of trump who famously admitted that He was great for ratings and did everything
in his power to ensure trump won in 2016 by giving him billions in free media coverage

two billion dollars worth of free coverage. shyt is crazy.
 

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It isn't an attack on his accomplishments. It's a legitimate crisis concerning his fitness to continue as the candidate and future President. There's a difference. It will be crucial for Dems and their messaging to make that distinction crystal clear if he drops out.
if you a true leftist you know the media actually serves their corporate sponsors....

however that debate performance was bad, we can be anti trump and not in denial about what happened.


and don't ever question my trump disrespect, preview my profile. that picture been there since the day they updated thecoli. :stopitslime:
None of this is relevant at all.

A left wing media would not go on an all out attack (even if a legitimate one) against the incumbent liberal president especially few months to the election
NY times has not produced any favourable writing of Biden for a while,cnn got taken over by a rightwing billionaire and msnbc is filled with conservative pundits

fox news,newsmax,nypost and the other explicitly right wing outlets would never and have never relentlessly attacked trump like that and Trump has done far worse than produce a terrible debate performance. oh and by the way fox news is MAINSTREAM media as well, the largest in the country, in fact.

If the mainstream media are leftwing then they have a funny way of showing it
 
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None of this is relevant at all.

A left wing media would not go on an all out attack (even if a legitimate one) against the incumbent liberal president especially few months to the election

fox news,newsmax,nypost and the other explicitly right wing outlets would never and have never relentlessly attacked trump like that and Trump has done far worse than produce a terrible debate performance

If the mainstream media are leftwing then they have a funny way of showing it
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whether it's a legitimate attack is irrelevant because

A) mainstream media never relentlessly attack trump/republicans for days/weeks on any one particular issue
Biden's age, biden's debate performance, claudine gay havard,Ihan omar's (it's all about the benjamins comment),Biden afghanistan withdrawal
These dominated every airwave and newspapers for days/weeks in a way that no Trump or republican fukk ups ever did (outside of Jan 6 )

B) A "leftwing" media would behave more closely to the way fox news or nypost operates for conservative but it's not even operating as a centerist
media looking to provide balance, the converage are always skewed negatively against dems

so there's absolutely nothing to support the claim or believe that the mainstream media are left wing, fox news alone (the most mainstream media in the country) disproves that nevermind the constant anti dem coverage from NY times, wapo,cnn etc
 

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You explain it by understanding these conversations are very real and there is a serious push by the left to get Biden to step down.


Big time leftist donors are withdrawing funding because this is a very real thing and most people voted for not Trump instead of Biden in the first place so most people don't really want Biden (or any real policy). They just want not Trump.


The only thing I disagree with is the timing. Shoulda been a full court press beginning 2023. Biden was a trash/10 President. I guess they thought an ambush at the end would be a more effective tactic at getting this dusty old cac outta there. We'll see:yeshrug:

And you don't think the timing is very suspicious? They know it's damaging to dems/liberals yet they double down every single time, why is that.

also it's not true anyway that the attack and pressure only just started as the mainstream media have been obssessed with Biden's age for about two years now whilst completely ignoring Trump's age as well, who is only 3 years younger than Biden

But to the more important point, I would love to know why you believe the mainstream media are left leaning, I'm assuming you do
 

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And you don't think the timing is very suspicious?. also it's not true anyway as the mainstream media have been obssessed with Biden's age for a while now
whilst completely ignoring Trump's age as well, who is only 3 years younger than Biden

But to the more important point, I would love to know why you believe the mainstream media are left leaning, I'm assuming you do
The timing seems like they think an ambush would be a more effective strategy than a drawn out years long campaign. We'll see if it works, if it does (which I'm praying it does) I'd support any candidate that steps up. I think most people would since they were overwhelming voting against Trump as opposed to for Biden.

I think most of the mainstream media leans left because most of the mainstream media is very visibly against a Trump presidency lol.
 

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The media pounced on this whole “Biden and his age” shtick because they didn't have much of anything else to cover on the news.

Before that debate, the media was deadlocked in on Trump and all his courthouse drama and felony convictions for the past few months but that all dried up for the moment.

Most people already know Biden is old and not the most coherent individual due to his age but that's not a shocker, we've known that since 2020. I don't believe people who've been supporting Biden up until that debate will suddenly do a 180 and not vote for him in November, it's not like they've learned anything new. The ones who say they will likely weren't serious about voting for Biden in the first place and used the debate to satisfy their confirmation bias.

That's all media propaganda to make things suspenseful, I don't care or pay too much attention to polls like most people because those polls (just statistics) can often be skewed to paint a narrative, overestimate/exaggerate support, and nor do they represent the entire population but a percentage who may already be biased before being polled.

As I always say, the only poll that matters is the one in November, everything else is just speculation and suspense to keep things on edge because a segment of our society (and even parts of the world) treats/views American politics as entertainment, and the media are just doing their part to fulfill it that craving.
 

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and the near silence regading trump and his project 2025 and how the new immunity ruling assist him to cause lasting damage to the country

Biden's age and full court pressure on him to drop out has dominated the airwaves since the debate

The math is not mathing, a left leaning media would be hammering Trump just as much if not more and not the other way around

Anyone that still beleives the mainstream media is left leaning is legit retarded at this point
There was a good article in the guardian on this. The media is failing spectacularly. Again!:


I'm not usually one to offer diagnoses of people I’ve never met, but it does seem like the pundit class of the American media is suffering from severe memory loss. Because they’re doing exactly what they did in the 2016 presidential race – providing wildly asymmetrical and inflammatory coverage of the one candidate running against Donald J Trump.
They have become a stampeding herd producing an avalanche of stories suggesting Biden is unfit, will lose and should go away, at a point in the campaign in which replacing him would likely be somewhere between extremely difficult and utterly catastrophic. They do this while ignoring something every scholar and critic of journalism knows well and every journalist should. As Nikole Hannah-Jones put it: “As media we consistently proclaim that we are just reporting the news when in fact we are driving it. What we cover, how we cover it, determines often what Americans think is important and how they perceive these issues yet we keep pretending it’s not so.” They are not reporting that he is a loser; they are making him one.
According to one journalist’s tally, the New York Times has run 192 stories on the subject since the debate, including 50 editorials and 142 news stories. The Washington Post, which has also gone for saturation coverage, published a resignation speech they wrote for him. Not to be outdone, the New Yorker’s editor-in-chief declared that Biden not going away “would be an act not only of self-delusion but of national endangerment” and had a staff writer suggest that Democrats should use the never-before-deployed 25th amendment. Since this would have to be led by Vice-President Kamala Harris, it would be a sort of insider coup. And so it goes with what appears to be a journalistic competition to outdo each other in the aggressiveness of the attacks and the unreality of the proposals. It’s a dogpile and a panic, and there is no one more unable to understand their own emotional life, biases and motives than people who are utterly convinced of their own ironclad rationality and objectivity, AKA most of these pundits.

Speaking of coups, we’ve had a couple of late, which perhaps merit attention as we consider who is unfit to hold office. This time around, Trump is not just a celebrity with a lot of sexual assault allegations, bankruptcies and loopily malicious statements, as he was in 2016. He’s a convicted criminal who orchestrated a coup attempt to steal an election both through backroom corruption and public lies and through a violent attack on Congress. The extremist US supreme court justices he selected during his last presidential term themselves staged a coup this very Monday, overthrowing the US constitution itself and the principle that no one is above the law to make presidents into kings, just after legalizing bribery of officials, and dismantling the regulatory state by throwing out the Chevron deference.

Trump’s own former staffers are part of the Heritage Foundation’s team planning to implement Project 25 if he wins, which would finish off our system of government with yet another coup. “We are in the process of the second American revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be,” said the foundation’s president the other day. This alarms me. So does the behavior of the US mainstream media, which seems more concerned with sabotaging the only thing standing between us and this third coup. “Why aren’t we talking about Trump’s fascism?” demands the headline of Jeet Heer’s piece in the Nation, to which the answer might be a piece by the Nation’s own editor-in-chief titled “Biden’s patriotic duty” that proposes his duty is to get lost. Sometimes I wonder if all this coverage is because the media knows how to cover a normal problem like a sub-par candidate; they don’t know how to cover something as abnormal and unprecedented as the end of the republic. So for the most part they don’t.

Biden is old. He was one kind of appalling in the 27 June debate, listless and sometimes stumbling and muddling his words. But Trump was another kind of appalling, in that almost everything he said was an outrageous lie and some of it was a threat. I get that writing about the monstrosity that is Trump faces the problem that it’s not news; he’s been a monster spouting lurid nonsense all his life (but his political crimes are recent, and his free-associating public soliloquies on sharks, batteries, toilets, water flow and Hannibal Lector, among other topics, are genuinely demented). He’s a racist, a fascist and a rapist (according to a civil-court verdict).

We are deciding whether this nation has a future as a more-or-less democratic republic this November, and on that rides the fate of the earth when it comes to acting on climate change. If the US falters at this decisive moment in the climate crisis, it will drag down everyone else’s efforts. Under Trump, it will. But the shocking supreme court decisions this summer and the looming threat of authoritarianism have gotten little ink and air, compared to the hue and cry about Biden’s competence. Few seem to remember that Biden’s age and his verbal gaffes were an issue in the 2020 campaign. Biden is a lifelong stutterer, and the effort to keep his words on track means that he operates under an extra burden with every unscripted answer he gives, particularly under pressure (though he had a long, easygoing conversation with Howard Stern a couple of months ago, in which he discusses his stuttering at about the 1:13 mark).

Some speech pathologists have suggested he may (not does, just may) have a disorder that sometimes accompanies stuttering, called cluttering, which is not an intellectual deficiency but a sometimes hectic and disorderly translation of thoughts into words. In recent months, actual gerontologists have said in print that Biden appears to have normal signs of aging, not signs of dementia. Nevertheless, the amateur armchair diagnosticians have been out in packs, and their confidence in their ability to diagnose from watching TV is itself an alarming delusion. I am not giving Biden a clean bill of health; I’m saying that I don’t have a basis to render a verdict (and neither do the august editors of large publications). Although the Biden administration seems to have run extremely well for three and a half years, with a strong cabinet, few scandals and little turnover, a thriving economy and some major legislative accomplishments, the narrative the punditocracy has created suggest we should ignore this record and decide on the basis of the 90-minute debate and reference to newly surfaced swarms of anonymous sources that Biden is incompetent. Quite a lot of them have been running magical-realism fantasy-football scenarios in which it is fun and easy to swap in your favorite substitute candidate. The reality is that it is hard and quite likely to be a terrible mess. Nevertheless, this pretense is supposed to mean that telling a presidential candidate in mid-campaign to get lost is fine. The main argument against Biden is not that he can’t govern – that would be hard to make given that he seems to have done so for the past years – but that he can’t win the election. But candidates do not win elections by themselves. Elections are won, to state the obvious, by how the electorate turns out and votes. The electorate votes based on how they understand the situation and evaluate the candidates. That is, of course, in large part shaped by the media, as Hannah-Jones points out, and the media is right now campaigning hard for a Democratic party loss. The other term for that is a Republican victory. Few things have terrified and horrified me the way this does.
 

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Didn't we all know Biden was severely impaired for over a year while the media lied and said he was cogent, the best Biden ever and FU if you don't agree?!
The debate exposed them as liars to. So now they are swinging wildly the other way to save face.
Trump get a lot of negative coverage in liberal media. I don't know what you're talking about on that end. Maybe not specifically what you want covered but the idea he is a bad guy who doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the presidency is pumped out pretty consistently.
 

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And CNN has the lowest ratings in 33 years 🤭🤭🤭and we have committed to /search?q=#turnoffmsnbc

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Total agreement. @MSNBC was always on in my home. Have not watched any programming over the weekend. Contributors and guests don’t make 1 except @TheLastWord @Lawrence. Lawerence is knowledgeable and he &his guests do not regurgitate the same talking points like the other shows


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And CNN has the lowest ratings in 33 years 🤭🤭🤭and we have committed to /search?q=#turnoffmsnbc

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Total agreement. @MSNBC was always on in my home. Have not watched any programming over the weekend. Contributors and guests don’t make 1 except @TheLastWord @Lawrence. Lawerence is knowledgeable and he &his guests do not regurgitate the same talking points like the other shows


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I used to watch a lot of MSNBC pre-Trump victory. After he won I felt so dumb, the network acted like he had no shot literally until he won. What's the point of being a news organization if you don't know what the fukk is going on?! I'm watching this shyt to be informed not gaslit to a happy place. They were clueless Trump might win. I stopped watching cold turkey and after a few months realized how much of it is propaganda that puts you in a bubble where you don't even know what's actually going on.
 
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