Cold War II: The United States vs Trump and Co. A Russian Affair

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Trump can be impeached on not being fit for office, being a national security threat, etc. There are a host of things he can be impeached on, that are ironically already public knowledge. The Mueller report lays out the conspiring with a foreign government and obstruction of justice. With each passing day he resets the statute of limitations on obstruction of justice.


The goal should be removal. Even if it comes up short. The Republicans and Trump have already gone against movement with the Mueller Report. So the Dems need something else.

They can’t go on a phishing expedition at the impeachment. This is the same thing that went wrong with Kavanaugh. Don’t get to question then find something cause the Republicans will end it and vote no.
 

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The goal should be removal. Even if it comes up short. The Republicans and Trump have already gone against movement with the Mueller Report. So the Dems need something else.

They can’t go on a phishing expedition at the impeachment. This is the same thing that went wrong with Kavanaugh. Don’t get to question then find something cause the Republicans will end it and vote no.
The Senate is not going to put Trump on trial and find him guilty, so by this logic they shouldn't even attempt to impeach him. This is why the best move is to pressure him directly with impeachment, this prevents him from campaigning or focusing on anything policy related, it makes all of the things he is attempting to hide behind executive privilege available putting him in a position to either resign or run for re-election and get defeated.

Its the best move for Dems long or short term.
 

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The Senate is not going to put Trump on trial and find him guilty, so by this logic they shouldn't even attempt to impeach him. This is why the best move is to pressure him directly with impeachment, this prevents him from campaigning or focusing on anything policy related, it makes all of the things he is attempting to hide behind executive privilege available putting him in a position to either resign or run for re-election and get defeated.

Its the best move for Dems long or short term.

Trump doesn’t need to campaign like before( and we know he has no policy goals that aren’t undermining Obama) cause he has Faux News and the mainstream media both sidesism.

You are acting like he’s not the incumbent. He doesn’t have to work has hard for coverage.

He can literally have a 9pm Presidental address on national tv.
 

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Trump doesn’t need to campaign like before( and we know he has no policy goals that aren’t undermining Obama) cause he has Faux News and the mainstream media both sidesism.

You are acting like he’s not the incumbent. He doesn’t have to work has hard for coverage.

He can literally have a 9pm Presidental address on national tv.
They should not run his nonsense just because.
 

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Unless I’m confused, it hinges on Senate Republicans voting to remove him from office, no?
Impeachment is determined by the House

The Senate determines whether he is removed. The Senate will not remove him because Republicans have sold out the country, but saying the Dems shouldn't pursue and eventually impeach him is a dereliction of duty and will allow the President even more power.

WHat sickens me is that its not just this Russia stuff. The Enoluments shyt is just as bad. shyt, the stuff he is doing with telling the treasury to not give the House his financial docs is also impeachable. Telling border agents to not allow asylum seekers in is also breaking the law. I don't understand how you all can be okay with this bullshyt. Wake the fukk up
 

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There has to be something the dems know that the public doesn't or its really as simple as they are using trump to raise funds :ld:
This right here is part of the problem. The Democratic Party is eating itself.

The goal is to increase voter turnout but their passivity May depress it.
 

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There has to be something the dems know that the public doesn't or its really as simple as they are using trump to raise funds :ld:
Everything we know is enough to remove him. But it’s still like removing a cancer. You can’t just open it up and scoop it out.
 

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Trump doesn’t need to campaign like before( and we know he has no policy goals that aren’t undermining Obama) cause he has Faux News and the mainstream media both sidesism.

You are acting like he’s not the incumbent. He doesn’t have to work has hard for coverage.

He can literally have a 9pm Presidental address on national tv.
He's an incumbent with an approval rating in the 30's - he's going to have to do a lot more than simply address the country a couple times from the oval. People are still forgetting that he was originally elected with roughly half the voting eligible public. If a quarter more people turn out, he won't win re-election.
 
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