Cold War II: The United States vs Trump and Co. A Russian Affair

[Pressure]

These takes are interesting to me because they are at odds for what progressives say is the winning strategy - - turning out liberal voters.

Framing any kind of alternative vision under the premise of turning Trump voters to dem voters is pointless in my opinion

 

[bright black]

i dont see how mueller couldnt reach a conclusion on obstruction...that should have been easier to answer than the question about conspiracy...i dont think anyone (left or right) thought mueller would draw a blank over the obstruction question...rosenstein and barr saying trump didnt obstruct aint good enough for me...both of them covered for trump in the past and i suspect they are doing it again...

 

[FAH1223]

These takes are interesting to me because they are at odds for what progressives say is the winning strategy - - turning out liberal voters.

Framing any kind of alternative vision under the premise of turning Trump voters to dem voters is pointless in my opinion

Well, there are the independents/Dems who voted Obama-Obama-Trump in the Midwest. But yes, turnout is what won in 2018 in those states.

 

[Nuke Dukem]

How are you NOT able to come to a conclusion lol

 

[fact]

LOL, this whole thing is awesome! There are so many people still fighting this report, and I am already thinking about what the state crimes are gonna do to this fukkface and his group of grifters. If people really are hung up on the collusion thing, all the power to them, although it’s pretty clear to me obstruction played out for the world to see, we will see what congress says once they get the report. Anybody that is scared shytless like cowards that Trump and his base are gonna take a “victory lap”, lolololololol, do you really love your everyday life scared? How? Trump is honestly the most careless and least inclined to follow laws if he feels exonerated, so we will most definitely just keep piling crimes on. His only real power to hurt us is through the judges, which he is doing max damage with, so I obviously want him to suffer immensely, in every single way possible. If we can’t get him on crimes, I hope someone [REDACTED]

 

[Pressure]

Well, there are the independents/Dems who voted Obama-Obama-Trump in the Midwest. But yes, turnout is what won in 2018 in those states.

I thought they voted differently because of economic reasons and because Hillary didn't campaign there.

As pointed out in the argument they don't seem to care about corruption.

That's not to say there isn't great value in this approach, but the value would be in how it plays to your base and not Trump's.

 

[MoneyTron]

It didn't , it basically just set out facts. It's up to Congress to decide the conclusion

That's not what I meant...

 

[Mook]

You wanna throw your hands up and cry shyts broken while not doing anything do you breh, thats your right, but Im about doing shyt not crying on message boards


Edit: Not tryna say youre crying specifically, just the expression itself

Everything yall saying to do, to me is doing nothing.

Matching, protests, writing letters, voting. None of that does shyt. We took the house and nothing has happend. It's about to be the 4th month of the year and we didn't get his taxes. Was that not first priority?

I'm on that stoic shyt. If I can't control it or change it, I gotta move on and move on.

This is ironic because I myself have been questioning lots of things as of late....and someone important to me told me to read "Meditations".

While some of the things he says are right...some of them really could not possibly yield beneficial results to society

I mean what is "good"? One should be good. One should be righteous. To some, killing a rare and endangered species is "good".

How can one admire the things in nature and the simplicity of it all as per MA's writings in Meditations...when there are men who literally don't give a fukk about it and only care about the wealth and power than can be obtained from it...because it benefits THEM. Men who will dig the Earth up....dirty it's waters...causing harm to himself AND OTHERS...all for the sake of coin??

I rationalize it by watching nature actually. Big bank always takes little bank in nature. This is just the human version.

A good video that made me alot more positive was the one where a gazelle gives birth and INSTANTLY dips out. A lion comes and takes the newborn in his mouth. I coulda been born that gazelle and been done instantly. I coulda been born in the Congolese and been dead on arrival with no hope.

So I count the luck I do have, minimize my complaining, and try to create a positive outlook. Cause if there was no suffering then there would not be happiness.

Also I chose my ethics early, but they're not permanent. Aristoltes virtues are a good one. For example, I have a strict no lying policy. I break that rule only under extreme circumstances. Basically I'm trying to be adaptable. Is there a rock on the road? No point in talking about it, lets just figure out an alternative route.

 

[Tommy Fits]

you think?

shyt was all of a sudden. Imo, there's definitely some skeletons behind the scenes that got overturned to force this conclusion.

It's definitely weird and felt rushed . The investigation was funded until September. You still had Gates cooperating. You had all these guys flipping, especially Flynn. He was given no time but if not cooperation, the judge basically said he would get football numbers. So what did they get out him if they president was basically exonerated. Obviously I would love to see the report but it may not be worth the potential damage to Democrats if the pursue this further. But wtf he basically admitted to obstruction of Justice in a television interview and they couldn't even get him on that.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

you think?

shyt was all of a sudden. Imo, there's definitely some skeletons behind the scenes that got overturned to force this conclusion.

Once again, the same week Barr was confirmed, the Mueller investigation was reported to be completed.

 

[Pressure]

It's definitely weird and felt rushed . The investigation was funded until September. You still had Gates cooperating. You had all these guys flipping, especially Flynn. He was given no time but if not cooperation, the judge basically said he would get football numbers. So what did they get out him if they president was basically exonerated. Obviously I would love to see the report but it may not be worth the potential damage to Democrats if the pursue this further. But wtf he basically admitted to obstruction of Justice in a television interview and they couldn't even get him on that.

I think the biggest is that the investigation was wrapped before the Supreme Court even ruled on a pending appeal.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

i dont see how mueller couldnt reach a conclusion on obstruction...that should have been easier to answer than the question about conspiracy...i dont think anyone (left or right) thought mueller would draw a blank over the obstruction question...rosenstein and barr saying trump didnt obstruct aint good enough for me...both of them covered for trump in the past and i suspect they are doing it again...

Basically they saying because no crime was found there was no crime to obstruct.

 

[jerniebert]

Wouldn't be surprised of nothing came of this.

 

[Smoking With Cigarettes]

Everything yall saying to do, to me is doing nothing.

Matching, protests, writing letters, voting. None of that does shyt. We took the house and nothing has happend. It's about to be the 4th month of the year and we didn't get his taxes. Was that not first priority?

I'm on that stoic shyt. If I can't control it or change it, I gotta move on and move on.




I rationalize it by watching nature actually. Big bank always takes little bank in nature. This is just the human version.

A good video that made me alot more positive was the one where a gazelle gives birth and INSTANTLY dips out. A lion comes and takes the newborn in his mouth. I coulda been born that gazelle and been done instantly. I coulda been born in the Congolese and been dead on arrival with no hope.

So I count the luck I do have, minimize my complaining, and try to create a positive outlook. Cause if there was no suffering then there would not be happiness.

Also I chose my ethics early, but they're not permanent. Aristoltes virtues are a good one. For example, I have a strict no lying policy. I break that rule only under extreme circumstances. Basically I'm trying to be adaptable. Is there a rock on the road? No point in talking about it, lets just figure out an alternative route.

Im not gonna defend the Dems, only time will tell if they're really about that action. I'll give them the calender year to see what they try, anything big will be DOA in the Senate, but if they're going to sit on their hands and not do shyt for us, then we plan accordingly to our situation. Most of the Dems have been waiting for Mueller to do their job. Now that hes submitted his report, it better be open season on 45 and friends the next couple of months

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

The only good thing is Trump is gonna be Trump and another scandal will emerge soon.

Only so long Trump can pretend.



Lesson learned here is this ain't no movie.

 

[Foxmulder]

Wouldn't be surprised of nothing came of this.

This might make shyt worse. Trust Mueller brehs.