Cody Rhodes explains why he left WWE

Playaz Eyez

Veteran
Joined
Sep 2, 2015
Messages
46,759
Reputation
7,805
Daps
135,700
This ain't really true, breh...

You tellin' me in those Hogan/Savage/Warrior days, you thought Haku, Barbarian, Warlord, Santana, Virgil, Dino Bravo, etc... or even guys like Duggan (who was crazy over), Bossman, Rick Martel, etc... were really going any further than midcard? Some of them were in the same predicament that the "poor troubled midcarders" of today are. They were never gonna headline Mania or SummerSlam and they knew that, and we as viewers knew it. We saw when they were pushed, and we saw when they were clearly not being pushed, and we saw when they began disappearing off TV in favor of the people Vince WAS pushing. When Bret, Michaels, Taker, Bulldog, Razor, Tatanka, whoever was getting pushed, not once did it cross our minds that Bravo or Santana still stood a chance in hell to be contenders. Same for the Attitude Era- yeah, it wasn't just ALL about Austin or Rock, but you still knew Crash Holly and Al Snow wasn't about to headline shyt. That's nostalgia talkin', lol...

It happens. And I do feel Cody deserved more than he got- honestly, the worst thing that ever happened to him was when the mask gimmick was dropped. That was the first time I saw him as a potential upper-card heel, and really the only time. That coulda been a career-making gimmick that had a backstory and everything they coulda played off of for years. His other runs? Not so much. But props to him for rollin' out. He seems like a creative dude who took proactive moves for his career, and to have them ignored right in his face, it's totally understandable that he felt it's time to wrap it up and make other moves. But the writing's on the wall right now for some of these dudes who've been there for a while and it's no different than any other era. Most of the mid-late-2000s people who either had a run already or never got too far off the ground, these newer ones are moving in their spots.

I feel like you took a very minute detail of my post and went somewhere else with it. I'm gonna call that a 'stro'. The point of my whole post was if the WWE properly built all aspects of the card, it wouldn't be just the main event scene + everybody else. Those first 5 guys you mentioned after Hogan/Savage/Warrior clearly weren't going past the mid card, and besides Santana, they were probably on par with Tensai once they stripped most of his gimmick down --- high profile jobber foils. The great thing Attitude did was make a whole lot of guys seem important, even if they weren't fighting in the main event. You had characters to invest in, and the crowd responded in kind. Godfather, Crash Holly, Val Venis, D'Lo Brown, Rikishi, Too Cool, Al Snow, and others all had periods of popularity and success, even though none of them (besides Rikishi would should have never turned heel) ever fought in the upper card. And none of them fought in the upper card because they were capped like a lot of wrestlers today, they didn't fight in the upper card cause you had a legitimately stacked main event scene. At one time or another, you had Austin, Rock, Taker, Mankind, HHH, Big Show, Kane, and to a lesser extent, Benoit, Jericho, and Angle. You didn't ascend to the upper card around that time cause there was no room. You don't ascend to the upper card today because the "creative" team has a 100% rigid by the book outlook of who will be there, and can never focus on more than 2 guys at a time. So no, that's not nostalgia talking at all, that's simply paying attention all these years watching and keeping up.

Just to add, based on the whole "reality era" of gimmicks/characters now, it would have been easier to build a Cody Rhodes facing Cena today than an contending Al Snow then, yet...Al Snow has a victory over The Rock, logical interference and all. What we have today is a straight up lazy creative team that spends more time trying to highlight weaknesses than shine the light on strengths.
 

The_Sheff

A Thick Sauce N*gga
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
25,767
Reputation
4,972
Daps
117,739
Reppin
ATL to MEM
I feel like you took a very minute detail of my post and went somewhere else with it. I'm gonna call that a 'stro'. The point of my whole post was if the WWE properly built all aspects of the card, it wouldn't be just the main event scene + everybody else. Those first 5 guys you mentioned after Hogan/Savage/Warrior clearly weren't going past the mid card, and besides Santana, they were probably on par with Tensai once they stripped most of his gimmick down --- high profile jobber foils. The great thing Attitude did was make a whole lot of guys seem important, even if they weren't fighting in the main event. You had characters to invest in, and the crowd responded in kind. Godfather, Crash Holly, Val Venis, D'Lo Brown, Rikishi, Too Cool, Al Snow, and others all had periods of popularity and success, even though none of them (besides Rikishi would should have never turned heel) ever fought in the upper card. And none of them fought in the upper card because they were capped like a lot of wrestlers today, they didn't fight in the upper card cause you had a legitimately stacked main event scene. At one time or another, you had Austin, Rock, Taker, Mankind, HHH, Big Show, Kane, and to a lesser extent, Benoit, Jericho, and Angle. You didn't ascend to the upper card around that time cause there was no room. You don't ascend to the upper card today because the "creative" team has a 100% rigid by the book outlook of who will be there, and can never focus on more than 2 guys at a time. So no, that's not nostalgia talking at all, that's simply paying attention all these years watching and keeping up.

Just to add, based on the whole "reality era" of gimmicks/characters now, it would have been easier to build a Cody Rhodes facing Cena today than an contending Al Snow then, yet...Al Snow has a victory over The Rock, logical interference and all. What we have today is a straight up lazy creative team that spends more time trying to highlight weaknesses than shine the light on strengths.

That right there is the answer. The Godfather had no reason to complain that he should be pushed for a world title run because even he knew that he wasnt on Rock, Austin, HHH level of popularity. Cody Rhodes has no reason to believe he cant make a run when people like Sheamus, Roman Reigns, Miz, Alberto Del Rio, Dean Ambrose etc...have received pushes.

They talk a lot about grabbing this brass ring and trying to get yourself over but with certain people they arent afforded that chance. If you let a guy go for broke and he fails then he knows his role and will be content with that mid-level spot but if you dont let him reach for it then everyday he is going to sit there and be pissed about it and think he could be better than the current crop of wrestlers.
 

Green Ranger

I Am Legend
Joined
May 24, 2012
Messages
28,557
Reputation
2,230
Daps
63,813
Reppin
Angel Grove California
Wrestling Observer Radio that the statement issued by Cody Rhodes on his WWE release was met with a lot of backstage heat in WWE.

Specifically, WWE officials were not happy with Rhodes talking about a WWE writer hitting on female developmental talents.

In related news, Rhodes’ statement has made many people wonder exactly who he was referring to on the WWE creative team, and while this cannot be confirmed, Rhodes was likely referring to Ed Koskey and Ryan Ward.

Koskey is the head writer of WWE Raw, and is likely who Rhodes was talking about when he referred to a writer as “pretending to be Brian Gewirtz”. Gewirtz is a former head writer of Raw, and Koskey has had the job since 2013.

Ryan Ward is the current head writer of WWE Smackdown, and was a former NXT writer.
 

Silkk

Thats My Quarterback :to:
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
196,210
Reputation
20,177
Daps
496,049
Like I said in the other thread, Cody was never going to get a proper push under Vince, because of his lisp.
Didn't Lashley have a lisp?:jbhmm:

HYpFZCP.gif
 

Green Ranger

I Am Legend
Joined
May 24, 2012
Messages
28,557
Reputation
2,230
Daps
63,813
Reppin
Angel Grove California
Idiots. Instead of reading his gripes with how they treat the wrestlers, they complain about him calling out some WWE writers trying to flirt. :mjlol:
Backward ass company are we really surprised
He pretty much said Vince whole brass ring talk was a bunch of bull but hey lets focus on the writer hitting on a chick in development. Why you think the writer was comfortable doing that in the first place he was just copying Michael Hayes
 

mrken12

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Apr 16, 2013
Messages
80,804
Reputation
20,880
Daps
300,344
Reppin
Maryland
Backward ass company are we really surprised
He pretty said Vince whole brass ring talk was a bunch of bull but hey lets focus on the writer hitting on a chick in development. Why you think the writer was comfortable doing that in the first place he was just copying Michael Hayes
:lolbron:
 
Top