CM Punk reportedly not satisfied with AEW

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If there's one thing Tony needs to understand is that themes don't mean titles for your shows. He needs to realize that themes also mean the show builds towards something. The entire night should've led to the Punk/Moxley confrontation, instead it opens the show and continues in a weird spot. The ratings would stay more consistent if the audience feels like they have to follow every segment for the final setup.

thats something Ive noticed has been abandon in wrestling in general. That whole thing of having an A storyline thread through the show wirh backstage stuff etc. Even WWE doesnt do as much. On Smackdown with the Bloodline it still kinda exists but not really

I think because there was a period 7 or 8 years people complained of not enough wrestling and the scripted format that came from the MNW era got played out, the industry just swung in the other way

Only NXT 2.0 (kinda) and MLW (who I aint watched in months) kept doing

But you're right cause if theres one thing AEW should do is that especiially when it seems guys like Punk or Jericho work in a storyline
 

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thats something Ive noticed has been abandon in wrestling in general. That whole thing of having an A storyline thread through the show wirh backstage stuff etc. Even WWE doesnt do as much. On Smackdown with the Bloodline it still kinda exists but not really

I think because there was a period 7 or 8 years people complained of not enough wrestling and the scripted format that came from the MNW era got played out, the industry just swung in the other way

Only NXT 2.0 (kinda) and MLW (who I aint watched in months) kept doing

But you're right cause if theres one thing AEW should do is that especiially when it seems guys like Punk or Jericho work in a storyline

Wwe absolutely does it all the time and you know who the star and the workhorses are. Everything on raw was building to Roman just two to three months ago and owens and Rollins would carry the first hour completely and the main events.

On the flip side everything builds to Bianca and Becky but they both kinda carry the woman’s side.
 

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Wwe absolutely does it all the time and you know who the star and the workhorses are. Everything on raw was building to Roman just two to three months ago and owens and Rollins would carry the first hour completely and the main events.

On the flip side everything builds to Bianca and Becky but they both kinda carry the woman’s side.

You're talking about placing people on the card Im talking about an actual storyline threading through the show besides matches but I get what you mean also
 
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You're talking about placing people on the card Im talking about an actual storyline threading through the show besides matches but I get what you mean also

Tony Khan doesn’t have a creative bone in his body, it’s been 3 years and you can’t name a single original gimmick he’s come up with from scratch for someone.
 

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Tony Khan doesn’t have a creative bone in his body, it’s been 3 years and you can’t name a single original gimmick he’s come up with from scratch for someone.

most people in wrestling dont, but thats not required for storyline structure. Right now he has to make it less like load management
 

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A name doesn’t make a gimmick unless it’s something like Undertaker.

I’m talking total rebrand like Dustin Rhodes becoming Goldust or Cactus Jack becoming Mankind or as you just mentioned Mean Mark becoming Undertaker. 99% of the guys AEW signs just revert back to their indie names with hardly any gimmick, if Tony Khan wants to be the head of creative he should actually show some creativity, otherwise bring in people who will come up with characters and layered stories
 

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Tony Khan doesn’t have a creative bone in his body, it’s been 3 years and you can’t name a single original gimmick he’s come up with from scratch for someone.

Off the top of my head, Miro the Redeemer

Miro is his real name, plus that seems like something Rusev came up with just like he came up with that stupid gamer gimmick at the beginning

A name doesn’t make a gimmick unless it’s something like Undertaker.


Miro Explains How His Redeemer Gimmick Got Into Shape

“It wasn’t planned for years, it wasn’t planned at all [The Redeemer character]. It was just thinking, ‘What do we do? Who am I?’ That’s what I was thinking, ‘Who am I?’ I know Tony [Khan] brought me as the gamer guy, as the Twitch guy but I know that’s not me and I know that wasn’t matching the work I do. I’m a vicious animal. I’m going out there, I’m gonna rip your heart out and I understand… I gave it a go, you know?

“I did the — I was brought with a purpose to be ‘The Best Man’, to be the best man of their wedding [Kip Sabian & Penelope Ford], which okay, I had two weddings. I’ve been married on TV, off TV, I was able to do that. But then soon after that, when everything started going downhill with Kip, especially I wanted to keep that streak alive. You know, I started professional wrestling in WWE with a hot streak of a year. I wanted to do that same thing here. But after Kip kind of screwed me over, he lost that Arcade Anarchy match.

“You know, it was clear that his goal was somewhere else. He was focused on his wife and I can’t blame him, I was young before. I used to care about my wife more but now it’s not about that. It’s about where you wanna go and I wanna be the champion, I wanted to be the TNT Champion, now All-Atlantic Champion, I wanna be world champion and I can’t do that by putting my wife always first.

“I have to be focused on my career and I started doing what I know what I do. I had to disconnect myself from Kip, that’s why I had to kind of punish him if you will, broke his little arm. Literally, broke his little arm on that door and I just told Tony now, ‘This is what we do. I’m gonna be me’ and because he’s a great boss, he let me run with the ball.

“He gave me the ball, he said, ‘Do what you gotta do’ and I’m doing exactly that. He’s not there — he’s not telling me not to smile, not to look at the people, not to do this and that. He’s giving me a clean go and that’s what I’m doing, that’s why I signed a multi-year deal because he let me do all these opportunities. If it was like [a] situation like before, that would have never happened.”

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Sounds like he's letting miro do him
 

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I’m talking total rebrand like Dustin Rhodes becoming Goldust or Cactus Jack becoming Mankind or as you just mentioned Mean Mark becoming Undertaker. 99% of the guys AEW signs just revert back to their indie names with hardly any gimmick, if Tony Khan wants to be the head of creative he should actually show some creativity, otherwise bring in people who will come up with characters and layered stories

Thats kind of the point of why AEW exists though?

So many people complained about being straddled with gimmicks and not even having the trademark if it gets over to use later, they wanted to go somewhere and be what they built already. Thats very much a WWE thing
 

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I’m talking total rebrand like Dustin Rhodes becoming Goldust or Cactus Jack becoming Mankind or as you just mentioned Mean Mark becoming Undertaker. 99% of the guys AEW signs just revert back to their indie names with hardly any gimmick, if Tony Khan wants to be the head of creative he should actually show some creativity, otherwise bring in people who will come up with characters and layered stories
For the most part the individual gimmicks are working out fine, so I don’t really see the need to change what’s working in that regard. If it’s not broke, don’t fix it.

Taking gimmicks that work and making someone do something different is some dumb and outdated Vince McMahon shyt.

Now stories can be a different matter at times. Part of the problem there is they have too many wrestlers.
 
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For the most part the individual gimmicks are working out fine, so I don’t really see the need to change what’s working in that regard. If it’s not broke, don’t fix it.

Now stories can be a different matter at times. Part of the problem there is they have too many wrestlers.

Again, people sort of clown AEW for being Super Indie Fed.....




Im like who and what was the catalyst of this promotion existing?:pachaha:
 
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