Clark Kent says Biggie's dead because 2pac lied

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That’s it. Pac is one of my favorite historical figures ever behind Malcolm, but im grown now and dude made some major bozo mistakes.

His recklessness got a kid killed. He hung around with lowlife dudes that everyone and they mama told him not to be with and when things with left he blamed his friends (Big, Strech).

He was living in NY and Atlanta for years and then when he signed to suge he started screaming west side :what: I’m grown now and see how crazy that sounds.

I’ve always said Pac was an alcoholic and that explains most of his outbursts and antics :manny:

Dog you have to take into consideration that Tupac was 21-23 years old coming from a broken home, No true family structure, family targeted by the FBI and Mama on crack who made it into another jungle which was the Music Industry and Movie Industry which is hell itself. Not excusing the shyt he did but we over here analyzing what a 22 year old should have done with the mindframe of a 30, 40 or 50 year old off the safety of a smartphone. He's gonna make alot of stupid mistakes and non street smart decisions. Same with Biggie.. These dudes were 22-24. Thats why I wish these nikkas like Kent would stop with this stupid shyt
 

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Dog you have to take into consideration that Tupac was 21-23 years old coming from a broken home, No true family structure, family targeted by the FBI and Mama on crack who made it into another jungle which was the Music Industry and Movie Industry which is hell itself. Not excusing the shyt he did but we over here analyzing what a 22 year old should have done with the mindframe of a 30, 40 or 50 year old off the safety of a smartphone. He's gonna make alot of stupid mistakes and non street smart decisions. Same with Biggie.. These dudes were 22-24. Thats why I wish these nikkas like Kent would stop with this stupid shyt
You only giving him bail because u liked his music. I doubt u giving any of these young rappers the same leeway
 

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You only giving him bail because u liked his music. I doubt u giving any of these young rappers the same leeway

You know me or something nikka? :hhh:

I'd say the same thing about them like I said about Ja Morant.. All These dudes(with the exception of Morant) are coming from broken homes and now trying to adjust to a new beast within the music/movie industry.. I expect them to wildout and do stupid shyt in their 20s
 
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Dog you have to take into consideration that Tupac was 21-23 years old coming from a broken home, No true family structure, family targeted by the FBI and Mama on crack who made it into another jungle which was the Music Industry and Movie Industry which is hell itself. Not excusing the shyt he did but we over here analyzing what a 22 year old should have done with the mindframe of a 30, 40 or 50 year old off the safety of a smartphone. He's gonna make alot of stupid mistakes and non street smart decisions. Same with Biggie.. These dudes were 22-24. Thats why I wish these nikkas like Kent would stop with this stupid shyt

Why is Clark stating the truth stupid shyt? Biggie was a really close friend of his that he loved, you don't think Pac's recklessness leading to a series of events that got Biggie killed doesn't fukk with him? I can't even knock Biggie's close friends and family being on some fukk 2pac shyt for life.
 

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Why is Clark stating the truth stupid shyt? Biggie was a really close friend of his that he loved, you don't think Pac's recklessness leading to a series of events that got Biggie killed doesn't fukk with him? I can't even knock Biggie's close friends and family being on some fukk 2pac shyt for life.

Because what he's telling is a fukking lie my man.. To blame Pac sorely for everything about the East/West war is totally disingenuous .. Everybody played a role in fueling the fire. Suge, Puffy, Cube, Dre, Snoop, Dogg Pound, Quik, Tim Dogg, Mobb Deep, Biggie, Pac, Vibe Magazine, all did. Mix all of that in with these guys being real young, having millions of dollars on top of the world and not having no true structure. It was bound to erupt. Biggie being naive and not knowing how serious this shyt really was mixing with gang politics was what led to his demise.


My man Doug Young told them, Biggie's A&R and Lionel Rideour(whom was apart of promotions for Bad Boy) whom was doing to NOT come out to California at this moment. Because Pac had just gotten killed, It had already kicked off a gang war and knowing Puffy's connections with the Southsides. It would put them in danger.



Plus Biggie was out there hanging with them Southside nikkas(according to that VLAD interview with them Compton Cops) after Pac got killed so you know it was gonna get muddy.Then you had Biggie himself throwing shots at Death Row telling Kurupt and Rage to sign to Bad Boy.. Theres plenty of room.. IN LA




If they laid low and not came out there till later. Biggie would have definitely lived.. Shyt Puffy still alive and he's more dislikeable than Biggie
 
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That’s it. Pac is one of my favorite historical figures ever behind Malcolm, but im grown now and dude made some major bozo mistakes.

His recklessness got a kid killed. He hung around with lowlife dudes that everyone and they mama told him not to be with and when things with left he blamed his friends (Big, Strech).

He was living in NY and Atlanta for years and then when he signed to suge he started screaming west side :what: I’m grown now and see how crazy that sounds.

I’ve always said Pac was an alcoholic and that explains most of his outbursts and antics :manny:
the new documentary explains a lot of his behavior
 

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I wouldn't say Pac was lying. They gave him reason to think Big had something to do with his shooting. All this, people came to visit him in jail and told him Big had noyhing to do with it is laughable. If my friend thinks I set him up to be shot, he's going to hear from me that I had nothing to do with it. If at that point, he doesn't believe me, then that's on him and that's the friendship because the trust is gone. Still, it was in poor taste to drop a song called "Who Shot Ya" right after the fact. Classic song, but still.

I also don't buy into this Big asking for it by going to Cali. Its too big of a city for him to just avoid because of beef. There was people after him regardless of where he was at. The thing with Biggie and Pac is both of them moved reckless in spite of this weird paranoia both of them had with being killed at a young age. Its like they kind of stopped running from it and embraced it.
 

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Never said they he was hanging with Jimmy after the rape situation. I said Pac was hanging with them after he was told about them. A million people done told Pac Biggie ain't know about Pac getting set up. And Pac most definitely tied Biggie into the whole shyt before the NY,NY trailer shooting. Pac set off the shyt that led to Biggie dying. If Pac don't tie Biggie into this shyt Biggie doesn't get clapped up in LA.
But that’s not what Pac said. He said Biggie said “watch out for them nikkas”. Pac asked him what he meant. Biggie said “I’ll tell u later”. Next time he seen Biggie he was ambushed. There is no proof that Biggie warned Pac about them prior. If anything. That’s Mike Tyson.
 

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Biggie made those songs. fukk he look like not releasing songs like that cause Pac loudmouth got his ass into some shyt? Make it make sense to me.
Would u do it? If that’s ur friend whose suffering? Also it was confirmed that song being released was a shot at Pac by Bad Boy execs themselves.
 

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I’m saying you would feel a way if that was you. But you rather be disingenuous
nikkas cappin. nikkas got lifelong beefs with messageboard posters they don’t even know personally and they want me to believe they wouldn’t feel a way about that? Let alone Pac was reaching out to Biggie while in Jail and Biggie was ignoring his calls.
 

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But that’s not what Pac said. He said Biggie said “watch out for them nikkas”. Pac asked him what he meant. Biggie said “I’ll tell u later”. Next time he seen Biggie he was ambushed. There is no proof that Biggie warned Pac about them prior. If anything. That’s Mike Tyson.

We have no idea what exactly Big told him. That was a conversation between them two. But several people said BIG told Pac about Jimmy and em.

Would u do it? If that’s ur friend whose suffering? Also it was confirmed that song being released was a shot at Pac by Bad Boy execs themselves.

I explained a few posts back that that shyt wouldn't have bothered me AT ALL. Imagine me knowing my friend makes that type of music and I even made that type of shyt WITH HIM and expect him not to release that type of music just cause I got into some shyt and got shot up. Makes no sense.

And the only Bad Boy exec that says that shyt is Kirk Burrowes who is a former disgruntled employee who has a personal vendetta against Puff. I'd take whatever he says about that situation with a grain of salt. Nobody else around during that time says that shyt.
 

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Because what he's telling is a fukking lie my man.. To blame Pac sorely for everything about the East/West war is totally disingenuous .. Everybody played a role in fueling the fire. Suge, Puffy, Cube, Dre, Snoop, Dogg Pound, Quik, Tim Dogg, Mobb Deep, Biggie, Pac, Vibe Magazine, all did. Mix all of that in with these guys being real young, having millions of dollars on top of the world and not having no true structure. It was bound to erupt. Biggie being naive and not knowing how serious this shyt really was mixing with gang politics was what led to his demise.


My man Doug Young told them, Biggie's A&R and Lionel Rideour(whom was apart of promotions for Bad Boy) whom was doing to NOT come out to California at this moment. Because Pac had just gotten killed, It had already kicked off a gang war and knowing Puffy's connections with the Southsides. It would put them in danger.



Plus Biggie was out there hanging with them Southside nikkas(according to that VLAD interview with them Compton Cops) after Pac got killed so you know it was gonna get muddy.Then you had Biggie himself throwing shots at Death Row telling Kurupt and Rage to sign to Bad Boy.. Theres plenty of room.. IN LA




If they laid low and not came out there till later. Biggie would have definitely lived.. Shyt Puffy still alive and he's more dislikeable than Biggie

These nikkas literally pick and choose. It’s disgusting imo.
 

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We have no idea what exactly Big told him. That was a conversation between them two. But several people said BIG told Pac about Jimmy and em.



I explained a few posts back that that shyt wouldn't have bothered me AT ALL. Imagine me knowing my friend makes that type of music and I even made that type of shyt WITH HIM and expect him not to release that type of music just cause I got into some shyt and got shot up. Makes no sense.

And the only Bad Boy exec that says that shyt is Kirk Burrowes who is a former disgruntled employee who has a personal vendetta against Puff. I'd take whatever he says about that situation with a grain of salt. Nobody else around during that time says that shyt.
Yea. Ur man’s inviting u somewhere. U get ambushed. U calling the nikka from jail and he’s ignoring ur calls. People in jail telling u that nikkas had something to do with it. U fighting for ur life in 2 ways. Death and jail. And ur man’s just abandons u. Meanwhile he know u got questions and u know he rolls with certain individuals and he releases a song called Who Shot Ya. Now EVERYONE thinks that song is about u. The streets. Jail. All that. U would be fine wit that? Ur lying thru ur teeth. Ur temper is wild and i can tell by how u interact with people who u feel did u wrong on here.
 

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Yea. Ur man’s inviting u somewhere. U get ambushed. U calling the nikka from jail and he’s ignoring ur calls. People in jail telling u that nikkas had something to do with it. U fighting for ur life in 2 ways. Death and jail. And ur man’s just abandons u. Meanwhile he know u got questions and u know he rolls with certain individuals and he releases a song called Who Shot Ya. Now EVERYONE thinks that song is about u. The streets. Jail. All that. U would be fine wit that? Ur lying thru ur teeth. Ur temper is wild and i can tell by how u interact with people who u feel did u wrong on here.

You don't know my relations with anybody I personally know. Would feel no way about a nikka I know personally that makes that type of music continuing to make and release that kind of music. fukk I look like lying to y'all nikkas about that shyt? I've actually been shot and stabbed several times and I can't see me in any of those situations being mad if one of my homies made a song about shootings/stabbings after the fact.

Edit: also...Biggie ain't invite Pac to Quad.
 
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Pac is my favorite artist ever but the older I got, the more I realized how dangerous he was to himself and others. I have no doubt that he would’ve found another way to get killed soon if Vegas didn’t happen.
Pac would’ve found a way to live. Breh was living his early 20’s in front of us, by all accounts he saw how far he was slippin being on death row and around suge, had he made it off the row, he would’ve been ok. Unfortunately a volatile dude like pac with a violent enabler like Suge was no good. But people gotta stop acting like these was 30+ year old men, despite people being more mature back then, they still hadn’t figured everything out.
 
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