Christians, Jews, Muslims, Catholics, and the NOI all believe in the same God.

[MMS]

How would you feel if a random on the internet told you that you were wrong on a point of whatever your specialty in engineering is? Real question.

Bc, really, how do you know if anything is true? Did you perform the experiments yourself? Why should i believe you? Etc, etc, ad nauseum.

I speak to the history, as shown by archaeology, and the linguistics, as shown by extant texts. The theological interpretation i leave to others.

quote where I told you that you were wrong. The only thing I am judging is you dapping up an agent

please do not project your feelings on to me, you have already shown you dap up racists <<<= this is why you think that i think you are demon.

I have never said once: that what I feel is what anyone else should feel. Anyone with belief can see who believes and who does not in this thread.

 

[MMS]

And that is why you are being removed with refutations constantly.

where is your long list of questions then

Spoiler

The 2nd Psalm of David

1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,

3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Definition of DERISION

وَإِذْ قَالَ رَبُّكَ لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ إِنِّي خَالِقٌ بَشَرًا مِّن صَلْصَالٍ مِّنْ حَمَإٍ مَّسْنُونٍ - 15:28
And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "I will create a human being out of clay from an altered black mud.
Surah Hijr, Verse 28

فَإِذَا سَوَّيْتُهُ وَنَفَخْتُ فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِي فَقَعُوا لَهُ سَاجِدِينَ - 15:29
And when I have proportioned him and breathed into him of My [created] soul, then fall down to him in prostration.

فَإِذَا سَوَّيْتُهُ وَنَفَخْتُ فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِي فَقَعُوا لَهُ سَاجِدِينَ - 38:72
and when I have formed him fully and breathed into him of My spirit, fall you down before him in prostration!” [56] - 38:72

own your words prostrate

 

[Ish Gibor]

where is your long list of questions then

Spoiler

The 2nd Psalm of David



Definition of DERISION

You mean this long list that you can't answer?

1) What does the word Moses mean?
2) What does this Hebrew word mean: אָדָם קַדְמוֹן
3) Show us the original Septuagint and Ptolemaic writings you've read and have translated.
4) What is the timeline of the Ptolemaic dynasty?
5) You understand the word psalm is English, right? And not even old English, it's modern English!
6) What is the Greek word for psalm used by Ptolemy? What is the Greek etymology?
7) What is the classical Lain word for psalm used by Roman? What is the Latin etymology?
8) What is the Hebrew word for psalm used by ancient Hebrews? What is the Hebrew etymology?
8) What is the Hebrew word for satanic and what does it mean in Hebrew!?
10) What is the classic Greek word for satanic and what does it mean classical Greek!?
11) What is the classical Latin word for satanic and what does it mean classical Latin!?
12) HECK, WHAT IS THE ENGLISH ETYMOLOGY OF THE WORD SATANIC and GOD?
13) What does the Hebrew word mean: אֲדֹון
14 And how many other instances do we see as a different descriptor beside אֲדֹון אֲדֹנָי אֱלֹהִים?
15) Where was Gog and Magog located and what ethnic groups lived there? From where did these ethnic groups come?!
16) And with that being said, what ethnic groups populated Canaan?
17) What is the interpolation of these texts you cite ...?
Proverbs 3:1-8
Genesis 9:25-27
Matthew 7:21-23
Luke 12:1-15
Psalm 73
Psalm 2

Nobody here believes that you are an engineer.

 

[MMS]

Nobody here believes that you are an engineer.

ironically you dont believe in anything either

Bakenranef - Wikipedia

Most writers, however, agree in stating that once a disease, which horribly disfigured the body, broke out over Egypt; that king Bocchoris, seeking a remedy, consulted the oracle of Hammon, and was bidden to cleanse his realm, and to convey into some foreign land this race detested by the gods. The people, who had been collected after diligent search, finding themselves left in a desert, sat for the most part in a stupor of grief, till one of the exiles, Moses by name, warned them not to look for any relief from God or man, forsaken as they were of both, but to trust to themselves, taking for their heaven-sent leader that man who should first help them to be quit of their present misery. They agreed, and in utter ignorance began to advance at random. Nothing, however, distressed them so much as the scarcity of water, and they had sunk ready to perish in all directions over the plain, when a herd of wild asses was seen to retire from their pasture to a rock shaded by trees. Moses followed them, and, guided by the appearance of a grassy spot, discovered an abundant spring of water. This furnished relief. After a continuous journey for six days, on the seventh they possessed themselves of a country, from which they expelled the inhabitants, and in which they founded a city and a temple.

— Tacitus, Histories, 5.3 <=

Spoiler: ether

حُرِّ‌مَتْ عَلَيْكُمُ الْمَيْتَةُ وَالدَّمُ وَلَحْمُ الْخِنزِيرِ‌ وَمَا أُهِلَّ لِغَيْرِ‌ اللهِ بِهِ وَالْمُنْخَنِقَةُ وَالْمَوْقُوذَةُ وَالْمُتَرَ‌دِّيَةُ وَالنَّطِيحَةُ وَمَا أَكَلَ السَّبُعُ إِلَّا مَا ذَكَّيْتُمْ وَمَا ذُبِحَ عَلَى النُّصُبِ وَأَن تَسْتَقْسِمُوا بِالْأَزْلَامِ ۚ ذَٰلِكُمْ فِسْقٌ ۗ الْيَوْمَ يَئِسَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُ‌وا مِن دِينِكُمْ فَلَا تَخْشَوْهُمْ وَاخْشَوْنِ ۚ الْيَوْمَ أَكْمَلْتُ لَكُمْ دِينَكُمْ وَأَتْمَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعْمَتِي وَرَ‌ضِيتُ لَكُمُ الْإِسْلَامَ دِينًا ۚ فَمَنِ اضْطُرَّ‌ فِي مَخْمَصَةٍ غَيْرَ‌ مُتَجَانِفٍ لِّإِثْمٍ ۙ فَإِنَّ اللهَ غَفُورٌ‌ رَّ‌حِيمٌ

...

Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah; that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in the due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety. This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, Allah is indeed Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

— Quran, 5:3

Gematria value of cain is 53 - English, Hebrew and Simple Gematria Calculator Values

 

[Ish Gibor]

ironically you dont believe in anything either

Well, at least not in your Germanic deity. It's just as fake as you being an engineer.

You do understand the difference between belief and believe, do you, you self-proclaimed engineer? IMPOSTER!

But I do belief in אֲדֹון.

1) What does the word Moses mean?
2) What does this Hebrew word mean: אָדָם קַדְמוֹן
3) Show us the original Septuagint and Ptolemaic writings you've read and have translated.
4) What is the timeline of the Ptolemaic dynasty?
5) You understand the word psalm is English, right? And not even old English, it's modern English!
6) What is the Greek word for psalm used by Ptolemy? What is the Greek etymology?
7) What is the classical Lain word for psalm used by Roman? What is the Latin etymology?
8) What is the Hebrew word for psalm used by ancient Hebrews? What is the Hebrew etymology?
8) What is the Hebrew word for satanic and what does it mean in Hebrew!?
10) What is the classic Greek word for satanic and what does it mean classical Greek!?
11) What is the classical Latin word for satanic and what does it mean classical Latin!?
12) HECK, WHAT IS THE ENGLISH ETYMOLOGY OF THE WORD SATANIC and GOD?
13) What does the Hebrew word mean: אֲדֹון
14 And how many other instances do we see as a different descriptor beside אֲדֹון אֲדֹנָי אֱלֹהִים?
15) Where was Gog and Magog located and what ethnic groups lived there? From where did these ethnic groups come?!
16) And with that being said, what ethnic groups populated Canaan?
17) What is the interpolation of these texts you cite ...?
Proverbs 3:1-8
Genesis 9:25-27
Matthew 7:21-23
Luke 12:1-15
Psalm 73
Psalm 2

 

[HarlemHottie]

The only thing I am judging is you dapping up an agent

Im dapping up whomsoever knows wth he talking bout. This ain't about no feelings.

I grew up in harlem. Besides normal ados christianity on one side, I got NOI fam several gens deep on the other side, and ados jewish play- aunties who daddy was a rabbi (RIP Aunt Joanie). All that, plus a hotep rich environment, plus Catholic and episcopal school. I wanted to become a nun for a minute, bc i so love ancient texts. Instead i went to an ivy for ancient history and got the chance to touch real history in my hands, shyt 1000s yrs old. I planned to become an archaeologist.

You are playing historical relativism with my lane. It is deeply offensive. If you got some new shyt, by all means share it, but don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining when i went to school for meteorology. I know wtf rain is.

 

[MMS]

Im dapping up whomsoever knows wth he talking bout. This ain't about no feelings.

I grew up in harlem. Besides normal ados christianity on one side, I got NOI fam several gens deep on the other side, and ados jewish play- aunties who daddy was a rabbi (RIP Aunt Joanie). All that, plus a hotep rich environment, plus Catholic and episcopal school. I wanted to become a nun for a minute, bc i so love ancient texts. Instead i went to an ivy for ancient history and got the chance to touch real history in my hands, shyt 1000s yrs old. I planned to become an archaeologist.

You are playing historical relativism with my lane. It is deeply offensive. If you got some new shyt, by all means share it, but don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining when i went to school for meteorology. I know wtf rain is.

like i said, i dont agree

and everyone is entitled to their own perspective and perception if you want to eat his spam. By all means

You dont need to tell me about your upbringing or who you have been educated by. In fact i'm sure they are all great and wonderful people.

But belief has nothing to do with knowledge. you dont have to be an abrahamist to be a believer.

Spoiler

Bible Gateway passage: Isaiah 44 - King James Version

The Book of the Prophet Isaiah 44:18-28

18 They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand.

19 And none considereth in his heart, neither is there knowledge nor understanding to say, I have burned part of it in the fire; yea, also I have baked bread upon the coals thereof; I have roasted flesh, and eaten it: and shall I make the residue thereof an abomination? shall I fall down to the stock of a tree?

20 He feedeth on ashes: a deceived heart hath turned him aside, that he cannot deliver his soul, nor say, Is there not a lie in my right hand?

21 Remember these, O Jacob and Israel; for thou art my servant: I have formed thee; thou art my servant: O Israel, thou shalt not be forgotten of me.

22 I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: return unto me; for I have redeemed thee.

23 Sing, O ye heavens; for the Lord hath done it: shout, ye lower parts of the earth: break forth into singing, ye mountains, O forest, and every tree therein: for the Lord hath redeemed Jacob, and glorified himself in Israel.

24 Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

25 That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish;

26 That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers; that saith to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be inhabited; and to the cities of Judah, Ye shall be built, and I will raise up the decayed places thereof:

27 That saith to the deep, Be dry, and I will dry up thy rivers:

28 That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.



sing along

Unless the Lord builds the house,
Im HaShem Lo Yivneh Bayit

The builders labor in vain.
Shav Amlu Bonav Bo

Unless the Lord watches over the city,
Im HaShem Lo Yishmor Ir

the guards stand watch in vain.
Shav Shakad Shomer

Indeed, he who watches over Israel
Hinei Hinei Lo Yanum

will neither slumber nor sleep.
Lo Yanum v'Lo Yishan
Lo Yanum v'Lo Yishan

Guardian of Israel
Shomer Yisrael

 

[Ish Gibor]

Im dapping up whomsoever knows wth he talking bout. This ain't about no feelings.

I grew up in harlem. Besides normal ados christianity on one side, I got NOI fam several gens deep on the other side, and ados jewish play- aunties who daddy was a rabbi (RIP Aunt Joanie). All that, plus a hotep rich environment, plus Catholic and episcopal school. I wanted to become a nun for a minute, bc i so love ancient texts. Instead i went to an ivy for ancient history and got the chance to touch real history in my hands, shyt 1000s yrs old. I planned to become an archaeologist.

You are playing historical relativism with my lane. It is deeply offensive. If you got some new shyt, by all means share it, but don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining when i went to school for meteorology. I know wtf rain is.

Earlier on (two days ago), I asked him what methodology he’s using. The airhead never responded, as usually I might add, like with all of the other questions I’ve dropped on his tin foil hat. Have fun with debunking the sh*t out of this weakling and liar.

Btw, amazing story.

@MMS: “But belief has nothing to do with knowledge”

This was more comic relief. He makes up crap as he goes along. This individual has no idea how and what these ancient people did! The loony doesn’t understand that these ancient scribes had knowledge!

 

[MMS]

Earlier on (two days ago), I asked him what methodology he’s using. The airhead never responded, as usually, I might add, like with all of the other questions I’ve dropped on his tin foil hat. Have fun with debunking the sh*t out of this weakling and liar!

Btw, amazing story.

Romans 3:4

4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

 

[HarlemHottie]

if you want to eat his spam. By all means

You dont need to tell me about your upbringing or who you have been educated by. In fact i'm sure they are all great and wonderful people.

But belief has nothing to do with knowledge.

I told you about my ppl, and me, so that you would understand, I'm a student of religion generally, not specifically. My environment was a crossroads of religions that i do not personally 'believe'. Which is how it should be for a researcher.

Im telling you objectively that IF there is a He who shall not be named, you're missing the bulk of His message. As i said in my first post itt, the Anchor Bible is a good way for English speakers to do so. Thats it. Im not seeking enlightenment. Thats all im here for, the end. All this extra is... extra.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Btw, amazing story.

Thanks.

My mother, a former black panther, advised me to get my education and bring it back to my people. What do i do when they don't want it?

 

[MMS]

I told you about my ppl, and me, so that you would understand, I'm a student of religion generally, not specifically. My environment was a crossroads of religions that i do not personally 'believe'. Which is how it should be for a researcher.

Im telling you objectively that IF there is a He who shall not be named, you're missing the bulk of His message. As i said in my first post itt, the Anchor Bible is a good way for English speakers to do so. Thats it. Im not seeking enlightenment. Thats all im here for, the end. All this extra is... extra.

who said he should not be named

my fear for you is that you do not understand the slippery slope of suggestion and appeals to authority

Ephesians 6:10-12

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

we cant say with certainty... that we know the extent of the message of an eternal unfathomable being based on the rules of men who say they speak for God.

a man or womans journey with God is solo. Despite what anyone will tell you.

and besides that, you have already stated you are an unbeliever.. So the messages have no meaning to you....or am I mistaken?

 

[Ish Gibor]

Romans 3:4

Goofball, you are a dumbass who doesn’t know how to apply a methodology.

Tell me with your “so called and self proclaimed engineering background. What are the 5 basic elements? Explain the interpolation of science!

1) What does the word Moses mean אָדָם
2) What does this Hebrew word means: קַדְמוֹן
3) Show us the original Septuagint and Ptolemaic writings you've read and have translated.
4) What is the timeline of the Ptolemaic dynasty?
5) You understand the word psalm is English, right? And not even old English, it's modern English!
6) What is the Greek word for psalm used by Ptolemy? What is the Greek etymology?
7) What is the classical Lain word for psalm used by Roman? What is the Latin etymology?
8) What is the Hebrew word for psalm used by ancient Hebrews? What is the Hebrew etymology?
8) What is the Hebrew word for satanic and what does it mean in Hebrew!?
10) What is the classic Greek word for satanic and what does it mean classical Greek!?
11) What is the classical Latin word for satanic and what does it mean classical Latin!?
12) HECK, WHAT IS THE ENGLISH ETYMOLOGY OF THE WORD SATANIC and GOD?
13) What does the Hebrew word mean: אֲדֹון
14 And how many other instances do we see as a different descriptor beside אֲדֹון אֲדֹנָי אֱלֹהִים?
15) Where was Gog and Magog located and what ethnic groups lived there? From where did these ethnic groups come?!
16) And with that being said, what ethnic groups populated Canaan?
17) What is the interpolation of these texts you cite ...?
Proverbs 3:1-8
Genesis 9:25-27
Matthew 7:21-23
Luke 12:1-15
Psalm 73
Psalm 2
Ephesians 6:10-12
Romans 3:4

 

[HarlemHottie]

who said he should not be named

my fear for you is that you do not understand the slippery slope of suggestion and appeals to authority

By this name, the jews who elevated him. The Abrahamic god is theirs, let it go.

If you're speaking of the universal, ineffable god, that's who i fw. And here's what's funny. I fully understand that passage in ephesians and i agree. We do fight against principalities and powers and darkness.

 

[MMS]

By this name, the jews who elevated him. The Abrahamic god is theirs, let it go.

If you're speaking of the universal, ineffable god, that's who i fw. And here's what's funny. I fully understand that passage in ephesians and i agree. We do fight against principalities and powers and darkness.

You are not an authority for God, nor are they, and nor am I

listen to yourself. Before you assume I think you are a fool please read my posts carefully.

this is the difference between studying religion and studying God. God is reality itself and all it entails. If you live like he does "appealing to the authority of men" you will be ruled by them.

This is the simplest and truest message in Genesis as stated here:

Genesis 4:6-7

6 And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

There are people who believe in God and trust in God and there are those who use scripture to control others. Seek truth in all your ways and you will see through deceptive people.