Christians, Jews, Muslims, Catholics, and the NOI all believe in the same God.

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Think about what it means to control a narrative

Think about what that entails before you scoff at what I’m saying
You said knowing ancient languages made me demonic. I was toddling around my mothers house in diapers copying hieroglyphs. :pachaha:


You think im demonic, that's pretty much the end of the conversation, no? :yeshrug:
 

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No wE dOn’t

Catholics believe in paganism and the worship of the mother goddess

islam follows a false prophet towelhead who claims he is the final prophet and not Jesus and are waiting for the antichrist arrival

Jews don’t believe Jesus is the messiah and are waiting for the antichrist arrival

“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”
The irony is that Catholics (Rome) spread Christianity in Europe through the West Byzantine empire. The head of the Catholic church is the Pontifex and the head of Rome was always the Pontifex maximus (Latin for "greatest priest"). Isn't that ironic? Ever wondered if there are more parallels transitioned from Rome to the Byzantine?




Isn't ironic that god is a Germanic deity?



"The English word god comes from the Old English god, which itself is derived from the Proto-Germanic *ǥuđán. Its cognates in other Germanic languages include guþ, gudis (both Gothic), guð (Old Norse), god (Old Saxon, Old Frisian, and Old Dutch), and got (Old High German)."

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Earliest attestation of the Germanic word in the 6th-century Codex Argenteus (Mt 5:34)
God (word) - Wikipedia

Etymology of the Word God

Oddly, the exact origin of the word God is unknown.

All that we know for certain is that the word God is a relatively new European invention, which was never used in any of the ancient Judaeo-Christian scripture manuscripts which were written in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek or Latin.

This situation is quite remarkable, since there is a long history of people arguing and fighting over the name of God, yet we don't even know where this European-invented word God came from!

Amusingly, none of the prophets, sages and disciples who wrote down the various books of the Bible would recognize or understand this recently invented word God. Yet people fight over it!

The following is a brief survey of some of the efforts of linguists who have been trying to decipher the roots of the word God:

1) Webster's 1913 Dictionary:

\God\ (g[o^]d), n. [AS. god; akin to OS. & D. god, OHG. got, G. gott, Icel. gu[eth], go[eth], Sw. & Dan. gud, Goth. gup, prob. orig. a p. p. from a root appearing in Skr. h[=u], p. p. h[=u]ta, to call upon, invoke, implore. [root]30. Cf. {Goodbye}, {Gospel}, {Gossip}.]

2) Catholic Encyclopedia:

Etymology of the Word "God"

(Anglo-Saxon God; German Gott; akin to Persian khoda ...).

3) Oxford English Dictionary:

"god (gρd). Also 3-4 godd. [Com. Teut.: OE. god (masc. in sing.; pl. godu, godo neut., godas masc.) corresponds to OFris., OS., Du. god masc., OHG. got, cot (MHG. got, mod.Ger. gott) masc., ON. goð, guð neut. and masc., pl. goð, guð neut. (later Icel. pl. guðir masc.; Sw., Da. gud), Goth. guÞ (masc. in sing.; pl. guÞa, guda neut.).

4) Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary:

god

\God\ (g[o^]d), n. [AS. god; akin to OS. & D. god, OHG. got, G. gott, Icel. gu[eth], go[eth], Sw. & Dan. gud, Goth. gup, prob. orig. a p. p. from a root appearing in Skr. h[=u], p. p. h[=u]ta, to call upon, invoke, implore. [root]30. Cf. Goodbye, Gospel, Gossip.]

5) American Heritage Dictionary:

GOD

NOUN: 1. God a. A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions. b. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being. 2. A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality. 3. An image of a supernatural being; an idol. 4. One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god. 5. A very handsome man. 6. A powerful ruler or despot.

ETYMOLOGY: Middle English, from Old English. See gheu(): in APPENDIX I

APPENDIX I: ENTRY: gheu()-

DEFINITION: To call, invoke. Oldest form *heu()-, becoming *gheu()- in centum languages. Suffixed zero-grade form *ghu-to-, “the invoked,” god. a. god, from Old English god, god; b. giddy, from Old English gydig, gidig, possessed, insane, from Germanic *gud-iga-, possessed by a god; c. götterdämmerung, from Old High German got, god. a–c all from Germanic *gudam, god. (Pokorny hau- 413.)
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Yup, phoenicians were in the bible too and were trade partners with Egypt, so we definitely have more than one group of canaanites in Egypt during the whole biblical age. .

Phoenicians carried E-V22.

E-V22 is found primarily in western Ethiopia, northern Egypt and in the southern Levant. In Europe it is therefore associated with the Phoenicians and the Jews, in addition to the propagation of agriculture. The Phoenicians could have disseminated E-V22 to Sicily, Sardinia, southern Spain and the Maghreb, and the Jews to Greece and mainland Italy and Spain. However, the Mediterranean route for the diffusion of agriculture (see map above) went through the exact same regions. It is therefore impossible to know at present which of the two periods (Neolithic or Classical Antiquity) played the stronger role in the spread of V22 around the Mediterranean.
(Eupedia Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA)

From the somewhat controversial paper based on bayes algorithms
Egypt, Bahariyya E-V22 score = 21,95%
(Verena J. Schuenemann et al., Ancient Egyptian mummy genomes suggest an increase of Sub-Saharan African ancestry in post-Roman periods)

E-V22 accounts for 27.2% and its highest frequency appears to be among Fulani, but it is also common in Nilo-Saharan speaking groups.
(Hisham Y. Hassan, Peter A. Underhill, Luca L. Cavalli-Sforza, and Muntaser E. IbrahimY, Chromosome Variation Among Sudanese: Restricted Gene Flow, Concordance With Language, Geography, and History)

E-V22 is mainly an eastern African sub-haplogroup, with frequencies of more than 80% in the Saho population from Eritrea, but it has also been reported in Egypt and Morocco
(Fulvio Cruciani, The peopling of the last Green Sahara revealed by high-coverage resequencing of trans-Saharan patrilineages)

Saho, Eritrea (N=94) E-V22: score = 88.3%
Turkana, Kenya (N=6) E-V22: score = 33.3%
Gurage, Ethiopia (N=7) E-V22: score = 28.6%
(Trombetta et al., A New Topology of the Human Y Chromosome Haplogroup E1b1 (E-P2) Revealed through the Use of Newly Characterized Binary Polymorphisms)

Gishimangeda Cave mt-DNA - HV1b1
y-DNA - E1b1b1a1b2; E-V22
Jawuoyo Rockshelter mt-DNA - L4b2a2c
y-DNA - E1b1b1a1b2; E-V22
(Mary E. Prendergast, Ancient DNA Reveals a Multi-Step Spread of the First Herders into Sub-Saharan Africa)
 
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You said knowing ancient languages made me demonic. I was toddling around my mothers house in diapers copying hieroglyphs. :pachaha:


You think im demonic, that's pretty much the end of the conversation, no? :yeshrug:
Why do you think you are demonic...or rather what of what im saying makes you think I am implying that you are demonic? :jbhmm: :mjgrin:

what is a demon but an evil idea? Remember I am not you and you are not me, the perception that I see is only mine, and yours is only yours. Dont be so quick to judge.

But a persons beliefs make up their entire being, to trust in unclean words is to trust in unclean spirits (the ones who wrote them)

canaan and its language are cursed (if you consider yourself a believer of Genesis). Nothing really more to it than that.
 

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@Ish Geber @MMS

Yup, phoenicians were in the bible too and were trade partners with Egypt, so we definitely have more than one group of canaanites in Egypt during the whole biblical age. .
I would strongly urge you to do this as a thought experiment:

What makes something "factual"? Is it because more than one person says its true...or is there something else that makes something factual :jbhmm:

objective truth is trickier to nail down than atheists would have you believe.
 

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Why do you think you are demonic...or rather what of what im saying makes you think I am implying that you are demonic? :jbhmm: :mjgrin:

what is a demon but an evil idea? Remember I am not you and you are not me, the perception that I see is only mine, and yours is only yours. Dont be so quick to judge.

But a persons beliefs make up their entire being, to trust in unclean words is to trust in unclean spirits (the ones who wrote them)

canaan and its language are cursed (if you consider yourself a believer of Genesis). Nothing really more to it than that.

What is the Hebrew word for demonic and what does it mean in Hebrew!?
What is the classic Greek word for demonic and what does it mean classical Greek!?
What is the classical Latin word for demonic and what does it mean classical Latin!?
Heck, what Is the old English (and Germanic) etymology of the word demonic?

What is the Hebrew word for evil and what does it mean in Hebrew!?
What is the classic Greek word for evil and what does it mean classical Greek!?
What is the classical Latin word for evil and what does it mean classical Latin!?
Heck, what Is the old English (and Germanic) etymology of the word evil?

Speaking of "Genesis"
What does this Hebrew word mean: אָדָם קַדְמוֹן
 
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Not that version, no, I do not. I have no dog in this fight.
ok then we will just agree to disagree

none of my statements will make sense to you if you are not a believer :yeshrug: this is my literal truth.

EDIT - consider this

the people who made the language you "think" in ultimately are controlling your thoughts. This a nerd reference but Hideo Kojima explored this concept with MGS5 :ehh:





What's your profession?
i am a business owner

my trade is engineering
 

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ok then we will just agree to disagree

none of my statements will make sense to you if you are not a believer :yeshrug: this is literal truth.


i am a business owner

my trade is engineering
How would you feel if a random on the internet told you that you were wrong on a point of whatever your specialty in engineering is? Real question.

Bc, really, how do you know if anything is true? Did you perform the experiments yourself? Why should i believe you? Etc, etc, ad nauseum.

I speak to the history, as shown by archaeology, and the linguistics, as shown by extant texts. The theological interpretation i leave to others.
 
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