Christians, Jews, Muslims, Catholics, and the NOI all believe in the same God.

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blessed is he who meditates on the words of the lord :salute:

Check out Vera Courtenay, The Age Of I Know, at blogtalkradio.com.


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I posted about the populations in the region at that time. It is widely known that these old Hebrews (Semites) weren't white.

When QueButter was on SaneterTV he criticized these older men who talked in circles about the Bible, without actually knowing the original languages. He asked the panel members. "How do you measure the weight of a flying object, "how to you measure the resistance of transistors". And none of them knew or replied. After 5 minutes they were back on track with the same babbles. It was sad to witness.

It's timestamped.



 
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Check out Vera Courtenay, The Age Of I Know, at blogtalkradio.com.







When QueButter was on SaneterTV he criticized these older men who talked in circles about the Bible, without actually knowing the original languages. He asked the panel members. "How do you measure the weight of a flying object, "how to you measure the resistance of transistors". And none of them knew or replied. After 5 minutes they were back on track with the same babbles. It was sad to witness. I posted about the populations in the region at that time. It is widely known that these old Hebrews (Semites) weren't white.



Breh, she's blind and she has the aura of witchcraft around her. She also doesn't have an understanding of the original languages the book was written in. She is giving away the fact that she doesn't want to believe in the bible, so she's blinded by that admission from the beginning.

The bible was written to refute the origin stories from Ugarit and other ancient belief systems. Those belief systems want to credit false gods as being what Yahweh Elohim is.

Again, just like I just told another poster. The spiritual element is important to recognize. There's a war going on in the spiritual realm and the enemy is trying to deceive mankind by throwing all of these different stories out about the earth, and mankind, and the spiritual realm.

The Annunaki are directly related to the Nephilim that were created when the sons of God took daughters of men to procreate with. They are demonic and they are in direct war with the Kingdom of God. So she is getting her information directly from the demonic realm.
 

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read this parable (and this thread if you have time)

This in itself you have to be ok with. I posted a certain egyptian parable that explains the drawbacks to written language but its not an obvious parable:
https://www.thecoli.com/posts/41076621/

that said you have to truly believe Jesus' perspective of the Bible to read what I am showing you. The reason I say this is because if you take "traditional" approaches you will already have lost

remember, Heaven and Earth were declared...meaning it is finished. Everything that follows is a reinterpretation...or should I say retelling of something already uttered.

Once you recognize this, the pattern of God will emerge to you. You will also understand the fundamental fallacy of additions to scripture whether they be Christian/Muslim/Jewish/Gnostic etc...

All organized religions for the most part are wrong to some degree because of their nature (control).

the words themselves are innocent, but the way we put them together is where the confusion arises. Thus the snare of set.

Why do any of those rituals if there is one stalk?
 

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Breh, she's blind and she has the aura of witchcraft around her. She also doesn't have an understanding of the original languages the book was written in. She is giving away the fact that she doesn't want to believe in the bible, so she's blinded by that admission from the beginning.

The bible was written to refute the origin stories from Ugarit and other ancient belief systems. Those belief systems want to credit false gods as being what Yahweh Elohim is.

Again, just like I just told another poster. The spiritual element is important to recognize. There's a war going on in the spiritual realm and the enemy is trying to deceive mankind by throwing all of these different stories out about the earth, and mankind, and the spiritual realm.

The Annunaki are directly related to the Nephilim that were created when the sons of God took daughters of men to procreate with. They are demonic and they are in direct war with the Kingdom of God. So she is getting her information directly from the demonic realm.
what is real: what is within our minds?

or what we can see, touch, smell, taste, hear? :jbhmm:

what does it mean to "Unite heaven and earth"? Or to be "led by the spirit"?

is the conflict exterior or interior? :jbhmm: or both
 

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read this parable (and this thread if you have time)



the words themselves are innocent, but the way we put them together is where the confusion arises. Thus the snare of set.

Why do any of those rituals if there is one stalk?


I suggest you take time out and look at the 20 for 20 scholar series. What you will learn is that a lot of these stories are based on allegories and at times completely made up or loaned from other cultures. There are some serious top notch scholars on here with Ph.D's. People who make up the consensus in theology. What in essence is being explained is that people wrote themselves into history. A lot is being exposed and refuted up to the point that it becomes painfully. What is being explained is basically how Hip Hop spread from one source and people started to attach themselves to that history and culture. These bible stories and narratives are the same. These books have been written over time by not just Hebrews, but also Assyrians, Greeks and other who wrote themselves into these lineages. The 12 tribes are not real, these are hypothetical in "brotherhood" and basically operated as gangs. In essence you get what Fab Five Freddy did with Hip Hop, when he took all the elements and put them together, which became the pillars of Hip Hop.

What Vera Courtenay wrote in The Age Of I Know is basically an accumulation of what these scholars presented.

 
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I suggest you take time out and look at the 20 for 20 scholar series. What you will learn is that a lot of these stories are based on allegories and at times completely made up or loaned from other cultures. There are some serious top notch scholars on here with Ph.D's. People who make up the consensus in theology. What in essence is being explained is that people wrote themselves into history. A lot is being exposed and refuted up to the point that it becomes painfully. What is being explained is basically how Hip Hop spread from one source and people started to attach themselves to that history and culture. These bible stories and narratives are the same. These books have been written over time by not just Hebrews, but also Assyrians, Greeks and other who wrote themselves into these lineages. The 12 tribes are not real, these are hypothetical in "brotherhood" and basically operated as gangs. In essence you get what Fab Five Freddy did with Hip Hop, when he took all the elements and put them together, which became the pillars of Hip Hop.

What Vera Courtenay wrote in The Age Of I Know is basically an accumulation of what these scholars presented.


thats one perspective to take :mjpls:

but there is a hidden underlying thing to scripture that is known only to those doing the writing

there is a reason other texts that claim xyz do not hold the test of time. Jews have a strong reason to believe there is power in the words of the Tanakh because they are powerful.

That said I wouldnt so quickly say the scriptures are just "put together". Thats haphazard and knowledge in itself has limitations as an idea
 

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thats one perspective to take :mjpls:

but there is a hidden underlying thing to scripture that is known only to those doing the writing

there is a reason other texts that claim xyz do not hold the test of time. Jews have a strong reason to believe there is power in the words of the Tanakh because they are powerful.

That said I wouldnt so quickly say the scriptures are just "put together". Thats haphazard and knowledge in itself has limitations as an idea

Do you understand what the word consensus means? You understanding of this is very basic and limited. People's person interpretation is not relevant here. These are not some dudes talking out of their neck. The reason why these texts don't stand the test of time is because several people wrote themselves into the text. This is why I told you to listen to what these scholars say about this history and how this book was formed. Assyrians rounded up people and deported them, while putting in spies in places like Judea and Israel.

They wrote themselves in that story with their already in existing culture of rituals with blessings and curses. This explains why the Lachish wrote a different type of Hebrew. This explains why the story of Moses is hypothetical and why there is no original Demotic or Lachish-Paleo-Hebrew writings of these older stories. Perhaps it was not even written by them in Demotic or Lachish-Paleo-Hebrew, but by Assyrian spies. However, it also explains why mistakes were made because the Assyrians didn't know the whole story. They on purpuse could have been duped as well. And perhaps for this reason there's an oral tradition next to the Babylonian Talmud. Different elements (books/ tablets) were put together, the way Fab Five Freddy put the elements of Hip Hop. They already existed, but he put them together as the pillars of Hip Hop. As people started to write themselves into this history.


3 גוַיֹּ֣אמֶר יְהֹוָ֔ה כַּֽאֲשֶׁ֥ר הָלַ֛ךְ עַבְדִּ֥י יְשַׁעְיָ֖הוּ עָר֣וֹם וְיָחֵ֑ף שָׁלֹ֚שׁ שָׁנִים֙ א֣וֹת וּמוֹפֵ֔ת עַל־מִצְרַ֖יִם וְעַל־כּֽוּשׁ:

3 And the Lord said, "As My servant Isaiah has gone naked and barefoot for three years, as a sign and a symbol for Egypt and for Cush,

4 דכֵּ֣ן יִנְהַ֣ג מֶֽלֶךְ־אַ֠שּׁוּר אֶת־שְׁבִ֨י מִצְרַ֜יִם וְאֶת־גָּל֥וּת כּ֛וּשׁ נְעָרִ֥ים וּזְקֵנִ֖ים עָר֣וֹם וְיָחֵ֑ף וַֽחֲשׂוּפַ֥י שֵׁ֖ת עֶרְוַ֥ת מִצְרָֽיִם:

4 So shall the king of Assyria lead the captivity of Egypt and the exile of Cush, youths and old men, naked and barefoot, with bare buttocks, the shame of Egypt.

5 הוְחַתּ֖וּ וָבֹ֑שׁוּ מִכּוּשׁ֙ מַבָּטָ֔ם וּמִן־מִצְרַ֖יִם תִּפְאַרְתָּֽם:

5 And they shall be broken and ashamed because of Cush, their expectation, and because of Egypt, their boasting.
https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/15951/jewish/Chapter-20.htm


"The earliest certain link with Egypt is 664 B.C., the date of the Assyrian sack of the Egyptian capital at Thebes. Although it is often possible to locate earlier events quite precisely relative to each other, neither surviving contemporary documents nor scientific dating methods such as carbon 14, dendrochronology, thermoluminescence, and archaeoastronomy are able to provide the required accuracy to fix these events absolutely in time."
https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ht/02/waa.html


Psychological warfare

The Assyrians fully appreciated the use of terrorizing their enemies. To conserve manpower and rapidly move on to solve Assyria's multiple problems, the Assyrians preferred to accept the surrender of their opponents or else destroy their ability to resist a surrender. This in part explains their offensive strategy and tactics.

Deportations

1) Psychological warfare: the possibility of deportation would have terrorized the people;
2) Integration: a multi-ethnic population base in each region would have curbed nationalist sentiment, making the running of the Empire smoother;
3) Preservation of human resources: rather than being butchered, the people could serve as slave labor or as conscripts in the army.

By the 9th century BC, the Assyrians made it a habit of regularly deporting thousands of restless subjects to other lands.[36] Re-settling these people in the Assyrian homeland would have undermined the powerbase of the Assyrian Empire if they rebelled again. As a result, Assyrian deportation involved removing one enemy population and settling them into another. Below is a list of deportations carried out by Assyrian Kings:[34]

744 BC: Tiglath Pileser III deports 65,000 people from Iran to the Assyrian-Babylonian border at the Diyala river
742 BC: Tiglath Pileser III deports 30,000 people from Hamath, Syria and into the Zagros mountains in the east.
721 BC: Sargon II (claimed) deports 27,290 people from Samaria, Israel and disperses them throughout the Empire. However, it is likely that his ousted predecessor, Shalmaneser V ordered the deportation
707 BC: Sargon II deports 108,000 Chaldeans and Babylonians from the Babylonian region
703 BC: Sennacherib deports 208,000 people from Babylon
Tiglath Pileser III re-introduced deportation on a grand scale, deporting tens, even hundreds of thousands of people. Deportations were also coupled with colonization; see above for more details.
Military history of the Neo-Assyrian Empire - Wikipedia
 

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Do you understand what the word consensus means? People's person interpretation is not relevant here. These are not some dudes talking out of their neck. The reason why these texts don't stand the test of time is because several people wrote themselves into the text. This is why I told you to listen to what these scholars say about this history and how this book was formed. Assyrians rounded up people and deported them, while putting in spies in places like Judea and Israel.

They wrote themselves in that story with their already in existing culture of rituals with blessings and curses. This explains why the Lachish wrote a different type of Hebrew. This explains why the story of Moses is hypothetical and why there is no original Demotic or Lachish-Paleo-Hebrew writings of these older stories. Perhaps it was not even written by them in Demotic or Lachish-Paleo-Hebrew, but by Assyrian spies. However, it also explains why mistakes were made because the Assyrians didn't know the whole story. They on purpuse could have been duped as well. And perhaps for this reason there's an oral tradition next to the Babylonian Talmud. Different elements (books/ tablets) were put together, the way Fab Five Freddy put the elements of Hip Hop. They already existed, but he put them together as the pillars of Hip Hop. As people started to write themselves into this history.



https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/15951/jewish/Chapter-20.htm



https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ht/02/waa.html



Military history of the Neo-Assyrian Empire - Wikipedia
i hear you and i too once held a similar perspective

but as i said before...there is substance. Living substance to scripture that theologians, as well as scientists, will not understand.

Its one of those things where you need to read not just the Bible but other holy texts to start considering.
 

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i hear you and i too once held a similar perspective

but as i said before...there is substance. Living substance to scripture that theologians, as well as scientists, will not understand.

Its one of those things where you need to read not just the Bible but other holy texts to start considering.

Question: Do you speak and understand Hebrew, Greek and Latin, or Assyrian etc.? Heck, do you even understand English for that matter? Tell, who translated the Bible itself, or should I say bilbos? Is it theologians or you? Hence what does the word theologian mean?

Tell, what does the word bible (bilbos) mean?
 

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We are all the physical form of god,and just like Jesus told you "ye are gods".
We are the physical form of the sun. We embody the sun in a gas(breathe),liquid(blood) and solid state(bone).
Christians made Jesus important,though he never portrays himself that way in the bible.
he is also written as a ghost,which is probably done to hint that he is an allegory/fable more than an actual person. You should watch my spiritual guru Natureboy,he breaks all this down with science.
I agree with some of your points but not to go too deep, I always says the story of Jesus is the just the story of a father and a son.

And its just the continuation of "sun/son worship" that has existed globally in cultures forever.

The bible is just a collection of loosely accurate human history from the standpoint of the Jews, used as allegories for future people to understand what's going on around them.

Because as much as people think humans have evolved in the past 5000 years, societies evolved, but people are exactly the same.

You should see a reflection of yourself in God when you read the Bible, and you should see yourself in all the people that failed god as well.

If you're a special person you'll see yourself in certain prophets.

Knowledge of self can be found in the bible/Torah/Quran any holy book really.

That's what spirituality is really, find the one that works for you and become great.
 

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I agree with some of your points but not to go too deep, I always says the story of Jesus is the just the story of a father and a son.

And its just the continuation of "sun/son worship" that has existed globally in cultures forever.

The bible is just a collection of loosely accurate human history from the standpoint of the Jews, used as allegories for future people to understand what's going on around them.

Because as much as people think humans have evolved in the past 5000 years, societies evolved, but people are exactly the same.

You should see a reflection of yourself in God when you read the Bible, and you should see yourself in all the people that failed god as well.

If you're a special person you'll see yourself in certain prophets.

Knowledge of self can be found in the bible/Torah/Quran any holy book really.

That's what spirituality is really, find the one that works for you and become great.

What does Jesus mean? What does it mean from the translation? And no, the Bible is not just written by Jews. See this is how we end up in confusion, when people don't do actual acadimia scholarly in theology. All we get is personal opinions.
 

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Question: Do you speak and understand Hebrew, Greek and Latin, or Assyrian etc.? Heck, do you even understand English for that matter? Tell, who translated the Bible itself, or should I say bilbos? Is it theologians or you? Hence what does the word theologian mean?

Tell, what does the word bible (bilbos) mean?
Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 7 - King James Version

:hubie:youve made your beliefs clear
 

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What does Jesus mean? What does it mean from the translation? And no, the Bible is not just written by Jews. See this is how we end up in confusion, when people don't do actual acadimia scholarly in theology. All we get is personal opinions.


I see your angle. You are promoting witchcraft and confusion. Don't be deceived.

You didn't respond to the truth I posted though. There was a specific purpose the books in the bible were written like they were.

But if you keep posting trying to distract, we know we're dealing with a demonically influenced person.
 
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