CHIRAQ trailer (spike lee joint)

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Just saw the movie with moms;

I didn't know this was an adaptation of a play so now it makes more sense why some of the things were how they were. I feel like the dialogue limited the potential of the film with the rhyming. The best dialogue is when the rhyming is strayed away from.

There wasn't much character development or depth. The closest we got to it was Chiraq telling that chick about the pimp who was fukking his mother but I think, especially for a character named after the city there should've been more. His father being attached to Angela Bassett's character and showing a cycle was solid though. The preacher could've had more backstory, growing up in the hood wasn't really enough for me to explain why he devoted himself to a community he could've probably left. His funeral service was the best scene in the movie IMO.

The entire woman half of the city got on board a little too easy. Hard to believe every single woman was able to do that outside of the one chick Nick Cannon's character caught. Offered little sense of conflict.

The execution isn't for everyone but the message can't be denied.
 

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Just saw the movie with moms;

I didn't know this was an adaptation of a play so now it makes more sense why some of the things were how they were. I feel like the dialogue limited the potential of the film with the rhyming. The best dialogue is when the rhyming is strayed away from.

There wasn't much character development or depth. The closest we got to it was Chiraq telling that chick about the pimp who was fukking his mother but I think, especially for a character named after the city there should've been more. His father being attached to Angela Bassett's character and showing a cycle was solid though. The preacher could've had more backstory, growing up in the hood wasn't really enough for me to explain why he devoted himself to a community he could've probably left. His funeral service was the best scene in the movie IMO.

The entire woman half of the city got on board a little too easy. Hard to believe every single woman was able to do that outside of the one chick Nick Cannon's character caught. Offered little sense of conflict.

The execution isn't for everyone but the message can't be denied.

This was my main problem, no character development. Nobody had any real depth to them. Everything was hollow.
 

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I think one of the issues is that most of the reviews (here) are putting the movie at 6.5 or 7 on a rating scale.

He did something different....but what was different wasn't "great". If Chi-Raq was Malcolm X, Jungle Fever, Do The Right Thing, etc quality of work I think everybody would join the support :manny:

Anytime something is different it gets judged harsher sometimes unfairly. Sometimes a solid or good film isnt enough :yeshrug:

But where does the blame really go though? I see both sides to it. On one hand why would people be upset at a breh for doing something different? On the other hand one of the few brehs with power/influence chose to do something different instead of making it "reality".

Just a tough situation. Spike made his movie. It's time we accept it....and just hope there is a true to life Chicago/Chi-Raq movie in the future.
 

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I think one of the issues is that most of the reviews (here) are putting the movie at 6.5 or 7 on a rating scale.

He did something different....but what was different wasn't "great". If Chi-Raq was Malcolm X, Jungle Fever, Do The Right Thing, etc quality of work I think everybody would join the support :manny:

Anytime something is different it gets judged harsher sometimes unfairly. Sometimes a solid or good film isnt enough :yeshrug:

But where does the blame really go though? I see both sides to it. On one hand why would people be upset at a breh for doing something different? On the other hand one of the few brehs with power/influence chose to do something different instead of making it "reality".

Just a tough situation. Spike made his movie. It's time we accept it....and just hope there is a true to life Chicago/Chi-Raq movie in the future.

Tbh. What I was secretly thinking while leaving the theatre. And I'm kinda ashamed to say it cuz I'm black. But I just don't fee like blacks (general audience blacks) are ready for "different".

Like I understand why there's no black "clockwork orange", "taxi driver" or "blade runner" nikkas don't fukk with different.

I respect the film for going there. I just don't think it was well done.
 

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Tbh. What I was secretly thinking while leaving the theatre. And I'm kinda ashamed to say it cuz I'm black. But I just don't fee like blacks (general audience blacks) are ready for "different".

Like I understand why there's no black "clockwork orange", "taxi driver" or "blade runner" nikkas don't fukk with different.

I respect the film for going there. I just don't think it was well done.
So no problems with the vision, just the execution.

Yea, I think it's good to do different. shyt, I still say I wish there was a predominantly black Game of Thrones type of show, etc etc.

Ryan Coogler just did a damn Rocky sequel, but turned that into one of the best films of the year.

I think you're underselling black audiences though. Many brehs here love different types of movies. Just like many brehs love different types of music. The key is....how is the quality? If its great..we'll give it our attention.
 
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So no problems with the vision, just the execution.

Yea, I think it's good to do different. shyt, I still say I wish there was an predominantly black Game of Thrones type of show, etc etc.

Ryan Coogler just did a damn Rocky sequel, but turned that into one of the best films of the year.

I think you're underselling black audiences though. Many brehs here love different types of movies. Just like many brehs love different types of music. The key is....how is the quality? If its great..we'll give it our attention.

I don't think I'm underselling it. I KNOW that guys like us, we crave that alternative cinema and TV with an urban twist. My thing is... We're the minority. I feel like Spike knew that, even looking at trailer. He tried to trick black audiences into the theatre.

The scenes he showed of shootouts, partying etc. were like him trying to Pied Piper mufuvkas in there. That's why so many people were like "what the fukk" when they saw it in the theatre. I just left seeing it and walking out the theatre everybody hated it. I got it, I thought the execution was horrible. But i at least got it.
 

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this is a frustrating movie to me. it had alot of potential upon watching it, but i couldnt help but wonder wtf the point of the gangs and the violence angle was, without no actual you know, fukkING VIOLENCE ???? its one thing to spread a message, hell boyz n the hood had a message, but it made sense because of the violent angle. this movie takes away any action and violence and strictly focuses on the message, and i feel this is what hurts the movie the most, because we forget what these women are even fighting for. it makes it seem more satirical than anything. 8/10
 

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this is a frustrating movie to me. it had alot of potential upon watching it, but i couldnt help but wonder wtf the point of the gangs and the violence angle was, without no actual you know, fukkING VIOLENCE ???? its one thing to spread a message, hell boyz n the hood had a message, but it made sense because of the violent angle. this movie takes away any action and violence and strictly focuses on the message, and i feel this is what hurts the movie the most, because we forget what these women are even fighting for. it makes it seem more satirical than anything. 8/10
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Another thing Spike failed to do was address the youth. Chicago is baffling because the violence is a culture that 14 year olds are participating in. They're the hungriest wolves. Girls be 13 and pregnant. Making every character 18+ minimizes the fact that what's going on is a cycle.
 

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Another thing Spike failed to do was address the youth. Chicago is baffling because the violence is a culture that 14 year olds are participating in. They're the hungriest wolves. Girls be 13 and pregnant. Making every character 18+ minimizes the fact that what's going on is a cycle.
They made every character 30+
 

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doesnt have to be a crime movie...just a realistic one. That sex strike shyt and having all these stars in it is corny.
Had Samuel Jackson looking like fukkin Willy Wonka or some shyt. But i'm not artistic like that so i'm probably missing something. I just like real movies about real life shyt lol
you do realize its based on a play :mindblown:
 

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Basically there are two types of Blacks in Amerikkka.

One that dislikes "Chiraq" feels (in general):
  • We need more programs for "da keeds". Throw a ball, dribble a ball and that will ease violence
  • It's up to white airwaves to broadcast our plight. We need more representation on their networks
  • Put down the guns! We need the least amount of guns in our hoods. Dey keelin ah babies. All guns is bad
  • Keef, 300, and herbo, Bibby talking about where dey from! Lee ain't from here so he needa give money (never specified) to us
One that likes "Chiraq" feels (in general)
  • Blacks need to do for self
  • We know we have no friends. That includes a government. That includes a government with a black figurehead.
  • Families is where we need to improve
  • More guns, more training with guns, more fathers welcome into the home
while i like the movie, i disagree with this post completely.
 
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