Chinese fans angry at Houston Rockets GM Daryl Morey for supporting Hong Kong

[Bawon Samedi]

Yo ass literally sound drunk asl

And you didn’t even refute a single thing I said with evidence . You don’t even have an argument you just threw a paragraph of words at me

I don't need to refute a single thing because its obvious you're just crying that your precious USA hegemony is ending. But... If you really want me to then fine.

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

I don't need to refute a single thing because its obvious you're just crying that your precious USA hegemony is ending. But... If you really want me to then fine.

You went from sounding drunk to straight up sounding retarded

 

[10bandz]

rip to that man

 

[DonKnock]

Uh... No duh?

Fact is China hasn't been communist since Deng Xiaoping back in the 70s. Ever heard of the "opening up" period?
Chinese economic reform - Wikipedia

@Tommy Knocks the posts in this thread is what I was talking about. And my point with HK is that its inevitable that they would be absorbed back into China.

China has moved from Marx style Communism, but the government is still involved in the planning and operations of businesses (as we have seen with during this Rockets saga) and they are going the opposite direction.

From your own link:

“The reform era has been said to end during the leadership of Xi Jinping,[7][8][9] who generally opposes the reforms and has rolled back many of the Deng-era reforms[10][11][12] as the Communist Party reasserts control over different aspects of Chinese society, including the economy.[13][14]”


And outside of the economic realm they are a single party totalitarian dictatorial surveillance state whose leader is now ruler for life. Is it traditional communism?: no; is more free and open than Western nations?, fucc no.

Some of us can walk and chew gum at the same time. We can and do call out US where they are wrong and also China where they are wrong. No need for whataboutism.

 

[Jekyll]

Surprised Stephen A spoke that real

This nikka just be talking to be heard. No amount of money should compromise your morals. That being said, Morey bowed down with such a quickness that he should've never tweeted the shyt to begin with.

 

[Jx2]

imagine going to jail and getting executed for a choker like james harden

This comment


His eulogy: What proved to be even more fatal than a Harden step back was his hatred towards his country's Communist regime

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Uh... No duh?

Fact is China hasn't been communist since Deng Xiaoping back in the 70s. Ever heard of the "opening up" period?
Chinese economic reform - Wikipedia

@Tommy Knocks the posts in this thread is what I was talking about. And my point with HK is that its inevitable that they would be absorbed back into China.

What does that have anything to do with calling them Communist? The Communist Party still runs the country. They still are a part of the International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties every year. They still are officially committed to Marxism and Maoism in their constitution. They are still organized along the same Politiburo-based centralized government based on Leninist theory. They still have hundreds of state-owned companies. They still officially are committed to pure communism as their long-term plan. The fact that they are using market principles to make money and mollify the populace doesn't mean that they don't still consider themselves communist.

So long as we're throwing out wiki links as knowledge: Communist Party of China - Wikipedia

"Since 1978 China has to a certain extent shifted its political philosophical discourse. But this shift has brought us closer to classical Marxism. For example, classical Marxism expresses the relationship between economics and politics, and further, the economic base and superstructure where the latter is determined fundamentally by the former and only under certain limited conditions can the latter shape the former. Both Stalin and Mao, however, believed that politics and the superstructure could, at any moment, fundamentally determine economics, that they could determine absolutely the economic base. In a word, for whatever reason both Stalin and Mao misunderstood this vital point in Marxist theory and suffered accordingly in practice." — Jiexiong Yi, a senior Marxist researcher at Beijing University and the Central Party School.[98]

"I am a Marxist. The essence of Marxism is change, [...] Barack Obama beat Hillary Clinton by stressing change. The Marxist in China today is not a stubborn, dogmatic, and outdated 19th-century old man, but a dynamic, pro-change, young thinker. We have a flexible approach: if Marx's words are still applicable, we will use them; for things he did not articulate clearly, we will spell them out; for what he did not say, we will boldly come up with something new." —Ye Xiaowen on the role of Marxist thought.[103]

While non-Chinese analysts generally agree that the CCP has rejected orthodox Marxism–Leninism and Mao Zedong Thought (or at least basic thoughts within orthodox thinking), the CCP itself disagrees.[104] Certain groups argue that Jiang Zemin ended the CCP's formal commitment to Marxism with the introduction of the ideological theory, the Three Represents.[105] However, party theorist Leng Rong disagrees, claiming that "President Jiang rid the Party of the ideological obstacles to different kinds of ownership [...] He did not give up Marxism or socialism. He strengthened the Party by providing a modern understanding of Marxism and socialism—which is why we talk about a 'socialist market economy' with Chinese characteristics."[105] The attainment of true "communism" is still described as the CCP's and China's "ultimate goal".[106] While the CCP claims that China is in the primary stage of socialism, party theorists argue that the current development stage "looks a lot like capitalism".[106] Alternatively, certain party theorists argue that "capitalism is the early or first stage of communism."[106] Some have dismissed the concept of a primary stage of socialism as intellectual cynicism.[106] According to Robert Lawrence Kuhn, a China analyst, "When I first heard this rationale, I thought it more comic than clever—a wry caricature of hack propagandists leaked by intellectual cynics. But the 100-year horizon comes from serious political theorists".[106]

The CPC has retained close relations with the remaining socialist states still espousing communism: Cuba, Laos, and Vietnam and their respective ruling parties as well as North Korea and its ruling party, which officially abandoned communism in 2009.[135] It spends a fair amount of time analyzing the situation in the remaining socialist states, trying to reach conclusions as to why these states survived when so many did not, following the collapse of the Eastern European socialist states in 1989 and the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991.[136] In general, the analyses of the remaining socialist states and their chances of survival have been positive, and the CPC believes that the socialist movement will be revitalized sometime in the future.[136]

The CPC continues to have relations with non-ruling communist and workers' parties and attends international communist conferences, most notably the International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties.[123] Delegates of foreign communist parties still visit China; in 2013, for instance, the General Secretary of the Portuguese Communist Party (PCP), Jeronimo de Sousa, personally met with Liu Qibao, a member of the Central Politburo.[124] In another instance, Pierre Laurent, the National Secretary of the French Communist Party (FCP), met with Liu Yunshan, a Politburo Standing Committee member.[125] In 2014 Xi Jinping, the CPC general secretary, personally met with Gennady Zyuganov, the First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (CPRF), to discuss party-to-party relations.[126] While the CPC retains contact with major parties such as the PCP,[124] FCP,[125] the CPRF,[127] the Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia,[128] the Communist Party of Brazil,[129] the Communist Party of Nepal[130] and the Communist Party of Spain,[131] the party retains relations with minor communist and workers' parties, such as the Communist Party of Australia,[132] the Workers Party of Bangladesh, the Communist Party of Bangladesh (Marxist–Leninist) (Barua), the Communist Party of Sri Lanka, the Workers' Party of Belgium, the Hungarian Workers' Party, the Dominican Workers' Party and the Party for the Transformation of Honduras, for instance.[133]

No one said, "China is a model of pure communism" just like the USA isn't pure capitalism. You can argue about the degree to which China's Communist Party has abandoned its Communist principles, but it's just lame to attack random Coli posters for referring to China as Communist when it is still literally the center of the global communist community.

 

[nyknick]

What is this "our" shyt that you simple simon nikkas keep parroting

Holy shyt has the US educational system FAILED you nikkas

Why is this site filled with dingbats who think world issues don't and will never affect them???

70 percent of The Coli and 99 percent of TLR would've been firmly pro apartheid if the coli was around back then

It could the truth or it might be propaganda. I'm trying to hear all sides of the equation cause I'm not sure Hong Kong is our friends no more than China is. Matter of fact Hong Kong is China. They're not British anymore

All lives matter

 

[ExodusNirvana]

What does that have anything to do with calling them Communist? The Communist Party still runs the country. They still are a part of the International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties every year. They still are officially committed to Marxism and Maoism in their constitution. They are still organized along the same Politiburo-based centralized government based on Leninist theory. They still have hundreds of state-owned companies. They still officially are committed to pure communism as their long-term plan. The fact that they are using market principles to make money and mollify the populace doesn't mean that they don't still consider themselves communist.

So long as we're throwing out wiki links as knowledge: Communist Party of China - Wikipedia











No one said, "China is a model of pure communism" just like the USA isn't pure capitalism. You can argue about the degree to which China's Communist Party has abandoned its Communist principles, but it's just lame to attack random Coli posters for referring to China as Communist when it is still literally the center of the global communist community.

Too many know nothings infest this site

They literally just had a 70th Anniversary Celebration...gee....I wonder what a 6000+ year old civilization could be celebrating 70 years of

 

[Bawon Samedi]

China got their hand up our ass in so many facets n moving the US like a puppet.

at USA being a Chinese puppet. Especially when China depends on us more.
List of the largest trading partners of China - Wikipedia

We are their largest consumers how the heck does that even indicate that we are a puppet. Heck we been moving our factories OUT of China.

They’re militarizing an ENTIRE Sea that many countries have holdings in and just told to them fukk off n do something about it.

They’re illegally fishing ALL over the world

Uh... Who isn't? Go ask Somalia.

They’re buying up massive amounts of real estate in countries like they US, Canada and Australia among countless others.

Good.

Throwing millions of Muslims in camps

Oh this shyt again.

Hmmmm.... Now what about the genocide of millions of Native Americans during the westward expansion, the placement of Japanese in camps, USA having the highest number of prisoners(mostly Black), Blacks facing highest risk of being shot by police, placement of immigrants in detention centers, etc. I don't even need to go into chattel slavery or Jim Crow.

And the whole 1 million Uighurs being in camps has been busted.

Recolonizing Africa and doing similar predatory lending to countries all over the world.

This is my favorite western propaganda. lol. How about you and your HL buddies just regurgitating shyt you don't know about and the very least view the posts by actual Africans in the Root. Because me and them have actually been to Africa and have connections on the continent.

No China is not "colonizing Africa." What they are trying to do is find an alternative market from the West to sell their goods which is why they are trying to development it. Unlike you I've seen this first hand and people give me intel on whats going on. China has benefited Africa more than the West who have actually interfered with African politics and France who still makes its former colonies pay tribute.
France still robbing its 'former' African colonies | Pambazuka News

So don't talk about "colonizing."

Have been threatening to invade and annex Taiwan for years under the false pretense of them being a runaway province

Taiwan lost the war.

The same Taiwan that supports a corrupt western regime in Haiti by giving them weapons and humvees. fukk em. If China should leave the South China Sea then America needs to leave the Caribbean and Latin America.

Not to mention the Hong Kong Andy Tibet situations...

Tibet has been apart of China since the Yuan dynasty. lol.

And HK is apart of China whether yall like it or not.

China’s poaching market is threatening endangered species literally all over the world including Africa

Yet....

I kno the US is not perfect..but this is a totalitarian state capitalistic regime with zero free speech and ruled by a man who appointed himself as lifetime dictator literally trying to become the dominant economic and military power in the world.

This shyt feels like a crossroads in history moment, what mfs gon do?

You mean the country that has a history of oppressing its Black population...

Like I said dude is crying because his precious USA hegemony is ending. @Tommy Knocks This is EXACTLY what I was telling you about.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

What does that have anything to do with calling them Communist? The Communist Party still runs the country. They still are a part of the International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties every year. They still are officially committed to Marxism and Maoism in their constitution. They are still organized along the same Politiburo-based centralized government based on Leninist theory. They still have hundreds of state-owned companies. They still officially are committed to pure communism as their long-term plan. The fact that they are using market principles to make money and mollify the populace doesn't mean that they don't still consider themselves communist.

So long as we're throwing out wiki links as knowledge: Communist Party of China - Wikipedia











No one said, "China is a model of pure communism" just like the USA isn't pure capitalism. You can argue about the degree to which China's Communist Party has abandoned its Communist principles, but it's just lame to attack random Coli posters for referring to China as Communist when it is still literally the center of the global communist community.

So the National Socialist German Workers' Party was socialist because... It had Socialist in its name.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

China has moved from Marx style Communism, but the government is still involved in the planning and operations of businesses (as we have seen with during this Rockets saga) and they are going the opposite direction.

From your own link:

“The reform era has been said to end during the leadership of Xi Jinping,[7][8][9] who generally opposes the reforms and has rolled back many of the Deng-era reforms[10][11][12] as the Communist Party reasserts control over different aspects of Chinese society, including the economy.[13][14]”


And outside of the economic realm they are a single party totalitarian dictatorial surveillance state whose leader is now ruler for life. Is it traditional communism?: no; is more free and open than Western nations?, fucc no.

Some of us can walk and chew gum at the same time. We can and do call out US where they are wrong and also China where they are wrong. No need for whataboutism.

Yet...

China making two billionaires every week as world’s super-rich become wealthier than ever before, report reveals
Billionaires are richer than ever before, and China’s minting the most

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Too many know nothings infest this site

They literally just had a 70th Anniversary Celebration...gee....I wonder what a 6000+ year old civilization could be celebrating 70 years of

Or... We just don't go along with HL smart dumb babble? As for the bolded don't many countries do that?

 

[DlAMONDZ]

rip to that man

I shouldn't laugh but

 

[Oldschooler]

The problem here is that you accepted an agent of the Chinese government’s disingenuous framing of the issue so now your analogy makes no sense.

The HK protestors are not trying to secede from the mainland, they are trying to keep the freedoms in the 1 nation, 2 systems that they were promised in place.

If the US was taking people who said negative things about Trump and putting them in Guantanamo with no trial or just straight disappearing them then it would be an apt comparison, because that is what the protests are about

I can say the same thing about you here it goes: The problem here is that you accepted an agent of American/British colonialism framing the argument as 1 country 2 systems issue. It was obvious from the start that China straight up lied to the people of HK so there could be peace in the region. The 1 country 2 systems was set to expire in 2047 i believe. Eventually it will go to being 1 country 1 system. Many folks here acknowledge that HK should be part of China. So then why the sudden unrest? They will eventually go back to China. It's clear the folks of HK either don't accept their fate or they are fueled by an external force wanting to establish unrest in the region. It's better that HK slowly accepts the CCP system slowly over time rather than have it revert back instantly at the deadline.

If you agree that china and hk are 1 people than there shouldn't be 2 systems. That's very simple to understand you don't have to sugar coat anything.