China’s electric vehicle dominance presents a challenge to the west

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:wow:Sooner or later we all going to embrace our Chinese overlords with the piff they putting out.

When you got the CEO of the most Americana car company going:patrice:, we already lost the war of auto manufacturing.

Once the Chinese brehs figure out a way for gaming laptops to not be trojan hot boxes, it's over.
 

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I had a Xiaomi phone that I loved but had to get rid of it because I changed networks. China makes good products for a fraction of the price
 

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Farley loves to showcase his idiocy or he's trying to be some master puppeteer.

Decades of Ford history, market, manufacturing, and protectionism at his fingertips, and he chucked out all cheap cars and non-light-trucks to be in bed with shareholders. Gets his hands on an otherwise mainstream attempt for a car from a company mostly known for phones and trying to be price conscious, and completely fawns over it. He could have had this at almost any point in his EV campaign but he listens to his dumb shareholders.

Either he's angling to loosen the Chinese blockade or he's completely lost the vision at his job. I'd bet number 2 since he was trying to move Ford upmarket as some sort of "heritage brand" to continue to chase the infinite stock growth.
 

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I had a Xiaomi phone that I loved but had to get rid of it because I changed networks. China makes good products for a fraction of the price
when you don't pay your people shyt, you can do that.

these greedy corporate fukks wanted global economies, but these are the ramifications. don't make shyt anymore, these are the consequences.
 

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All of them cars are trash worse than Tesla. Looks cute but falls apart within 2 years
 

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America let's lawyers and industry heads run the fukking show meanwhile we 3 to 4 decades behind every where else in every damn thing


Nobody to blame but themselves worshipping the oil industry and the big 3 autos.

We lawst
 

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The U.S. doesn't have the infrastructure for electric. That doesn't stop anyone from buying them now. And the future is just that...thr future. It doesn't need to be popular now to be popular then.

Electic was originally shut down how many decades ago? And here you are shilling for it now.

Our infrastructure is terrible point blank period. Thats why everything gets decimated by a little more than scheduled rain these days :dead:
 

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Most hilarious part is realizing how much U.S Military Equipment and Components are manufactured in China :mjlol: :heh:

1. Semiconductors and Microchips

  • Integrated Circuits (ICs) and microprocessors, which are the backbone of modern electronics, have often been sourced from Chinese factories. Many defense systems, from communications gear to advanced weaponry, rely on these chips.
  • The risk here is that backdoors or vulnerabilities could be introduced in these semiconductors during manufacturing.

2. Printed Circuit Boards (PCBs)

  • PCBs are critical in virtually all modern electronics, serving as the foundation on which components are mounted and interconnected. China has a dominant share of the global PCB manufacturing market, and many U.S. defense systems, including aircraft and missile systems, may contain Chinese-made PCBs.

3. Rare Earth Elements and Magnets

  • Rare earth elements are vital in producing many high-tech military devices, including sensors, lasers, radar, missile guidance systems, and more. China controls a large portion of the global supply of these elements and produces many of the specialized magnets used in military hardware.

4. Electro-Optical Devices

  • Components like optical sensors and night-vision technologies often rely on precision-manufactured parts, some of which have been sourced from China.

5. Batteries

  • Some types of lithium-ion batteries and other specialized military-grade energy storage components have been imported from China. These are used in various equipment, including drones, communication devices, and portable military electronics.

6. Capacitors and Resistors

  • These are small but essential electronic components that are used to manage the flow of electrical current. China is a significant manufacturer of capacitors, resistors, and other passive components found in many defense systems.

7. Commercial Off-the-Shelf (COTS) Components

  • The U.S. military, like many industries, uses a wide array of commercial off-the-shelf components in its systems. Many of these parts, such as chips used in computers or smartphones, are made in China. These are less controlled and may pose additional security risks because they aren’t always built to military specifications.

8. Telecommunications Equipment

  • Certain types of radio frequency (RF) modules and communication chips used in military communication gear have been sourced from Chinese manufacturers, raising concerns about security vulnerabilities, especially in secure military communications.

9. Cooling Systems and Fans

  • Many cooling systems, fans, and other thermal management components used in military electronics and vehicles are also manufactured in China, though these are often seen as less of a direct security concern.

Good enough to defend our citizens but apparently shouldn't be used to save us money.
 

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Meet King Kong: This new electric pickup launched in China for under $14,000​


Peter Johnson | Dec 23 2024 - 9:04 am PT

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An all-electric pickup for under $14,000? That’s right. Geely’s Radar Auto launched its new “King Kong” EV pickup in China on Monday at an ultra-affordable price. Would you drive one?

Radar launches King Kong EV pickup for under $14,000​


Volvo and Polestar owner Geely Auto launched Radar, a new off-road-focused sub-brand, in 2022. Deemed “China’s first electric outdoor lifestyle brand,” Radar launched its first EV, the R6 pickup, in November 2022.

Although the R6 hit the market with an already low price of around $25,000 (178,800 yuan), the electric pickup is now getting significantly cheaper.

In fact, priced under 100,000 yuan, the company claims its new model “has a lower electric ratio than oil and subverts the fuel price.”

Radar launched the new King King EV pickup starting at 99,800 yuan, or around $13,700. The cheaper model comes after a slow sales start. Despite cutting R6 prices earlier this year to 136,800 yuan ($18,800), it wasn’t enough to drive demand.

The new King Kong model costs another 37,000 yuan ($5,000) less than the outgoing R6. Despite the lower price, King Kong maintains the design and features of its predecessor.

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Radar King Kong electric pickup truck (Source: Radar Auto)

Radar’s new electric pickup has 42, 55, 73, and 86 kWh battery options, providing a CLTC range between 192 miles ( 310 km) and 375 miles (605 km). In comparison, the R6 was available with 63, 86, and 100 kWh battery packs, with a CLTC range of up to 392 miles (632 km).

The new RWD variant features a 241 hp (180 kW) and 309 Nm single rear electric motor, compared to the 269 hp (200 kW) e-motor on the R6.

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It also gains a new 4WD model. The King King 4WD is available in 42, 63, or 73 kWh battery packs, good for up to 323 miles (520 km) CLTC range.

The new King King EV pickup is available in seven trims, four RWD and three AWD models. Prices range from around $13,700 (99,800 yuan) to $21,900 (159,800 yuan).

Would you buy the new King Kong electric pickup for under $14,000? Let us know what you think of it in the comments below.

Source: CarNewsChina, Radar Auto
 

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Meet the Guy Who Drives a Street-Legal Chinese EV in the U.S.​




Automaker BYD brought its e6 to America in the 2010s. Unbeknown to virtually everyone, a few survived.​


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Ryan Felton

| Photographs by Kent Nishimura for WSJ

Sept. 2, 2025 11:00 am ET

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Erik Soderholm and his BYD e6 in Honolulu, where he tried to become BYD’s only dealer in the U.S.

Erik Soderholm is a special kind of unicorn: He drives a Chinese-made EV in a country that has effectively prohibited them.

The 71-year-old has a BYD model e6, one of only a handful of American drivers of fully registered BYD vehicles on the streets of the U.S. “Every day I go some place, I drive it,” said Soderholm.

The car itself isn’t very impressive. It is a boxy SUV that was an early low-tech model imported to the U.S. in the 2010s. What makes it unusual is that the U.S. has put up hefty regulatory defenses—tariffs of over 100%—to prevent Chinese-made electric vehicles like Soderholm’s from entering the U.S. market.

How Soderholm, the co-owner of a bus dealership in Honolulu, got into this unique position involves a contract between acquaintances, a legal battle that landed at the Supreme Court and a drive by an ambitious automaker to break into the U.S.

For years, automotive executives have been fretting about the potential entry of Chinese car companies in the U.S. market. The industry’s top lobbying group has deemed Chinese electric-vehicle manufacturers an “existential threat” to domestic carmakers. And the biggest threat has been BYD, the largest Chinese EV maker in the world.

Early days​


BYD, which was founded in China in 1995, started teasing the idea of bringing a model to the U.S. around 2010, showing off the e6 at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit. BYD executives pitched it as a vehicle for governments, utilities and taxis.

The company signed deals in 2015 with Uber and other businesses to incorporate a small number of the EVs in taxi fleets.

A Cars.com writer who tested a Chicago taxi company’s e6s in 2015 described the vehicle as a relatively large crossover that was “rough around the edges,” with uneven braking and steering. The car hadn’t been serviced in close to a year because the service manuals were in Chinese, according to the review.

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Soderholm’s e6 is one of only a handful of fully registered BYD vehicles in the U.S.

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The e6’s electric motor. ‘We’ve had few problems,’ Soderholm said of the cars, but, ‘They work.’

Rattan Joea, founder and chief executive officer of California-based ride-share company Opoli, worked with BYD and received about 25 e6s from BYD as part of a 2015 deal.

Joea said the e6 worked fine, but the main issue was a familiar one today: charging. The EV had about 180 miles of range at the time, and some Opoli drivers picking up passengers at the San Diego airport would need to recharge after just one trip.

“It was hard for us,” Joea said. “All you could do was run it a very short distance.” The company returned the vehicles to BYD after about six months, he said.

A legal battle​


Hundreds of miles away in Hawaii, Soderholm was also intrigued by BYD and began negotiating a plan to become its first and only dealer in the U.S.

A no-nonsense, gregarious businessman with a law degree, Soderholm said the bus sales industry is small and everyone knows each other. “If there’s anybody who’s been in the business longer than I have, they’re either dead or retired,” he said.

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‘Every day I go some place, I drive it,’ Soderholm said of his e6.

In 2016, Soderholm struck a dealer agreement with an industry acquaintance, named Macy Neshati, who had been hired by BYD as a senior vice president of sales and marketing, according to court records.

Soderholm would sell BYD’s buses and forklifts, and as part of the deal he also received a BYD all-electric e6 sport-utility vehicle to sell. The e6 was BYD’s first and only passenger vehicle brought to the U.S. that the company certified as street legal. Soderholm paid $49,500 each to buy four.

As a BYD dealer, he brought one of the e6s to an auto show in Hawaii and spent several thousand dollars hosting a BYD-themed expo for prospective clients.

But things turned sour after Neshati left BYD in 2018. His replacement, Robert Hill, went through Neshati’s old files and discovered a copy of the deal with Soderholm, the first time Hill learned of it, according to court records.

BYD Americas CEO Stella Li, who’d spearheaded the company’s expansion dreams, was also unaware of the agreement, according to court records. The company sent a letter saying it wanted to rescind Soderholm’s dealer agreement.

Soderholm wouldn’t have it. “You can’t just cancel a dealer in Hawaii,” he said. Soderholm filed suit, alleging BYD violated Hawaii law by trying to pull out of the arrangement.

A federal judge in Hawaii sided with Soderholm and awarded the dealership $1.6 million in damages in 2021. BYD appealed to the Supreme Court but ultimately lost, and agreed to settle with Soderholm for just over $2 million.

After the check from the company cleared, Soderholm said he went to a local store in town and had it framed with Hawaiian Koa, an indigenous, high value wood. He keeps it hung on a wall at his house. “If you’re going to frame something, you use koa,” he said.

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The framed check Soderholm received from a settlement with BYD hangs next to his law school diploma.

Six remain​


All told, BYD imported 80 e6 vehicles into the U.S. certified as compliant with federal motor vehicle safety standards, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which regulates car importing. NHTSA isn’t aware of any e6 vehicles imported after 2016.

BYD said the cars saw extensive use. “We understand that most, if not all, are now at the end of their service life,” it said.

Not all have been lost. Today, six e6 SUVs are registered in the U.S., according to data from S&P Global Mobility. Soderholm is tied to four of them.

He has racked up about 60,000 miles on the one he drives. A service manager at his dealership has cleared 100,000 miles. His son drives another with about 75,000 miles accumulated. His wife, however, hates the cars after the years of litigation, he said.

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One of the e6s tied to Soderholm has racked up over 70,000 miles.

He says driving this car and seeing how BYD makes products all these years has shown him the potential of the company and its threat to the U.S. market.

“We’ve had few problems,” he said of his e6s. “They work. If I had my druthers, I’d be driving a 1972 911 Porsche.”
 
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