China told the Biden Administration during a meeting " We are an Equal Now" dikkup

[Bboystyle]

Why would black people and to be more specific ADOS/FBA have problems with communist when the black panther were inspired by communist teaching

U really just ask that dumb ass question

 

[voltronblack]

U really just ask that dumb ass question

Well are you going to gave me answer or are just going to be a smart ass about it ?

 

[Quiet]

America’s number one asset is black culture. The fashion, the music, that certain energy and swag, is what keeps it on top. In every other capacity there’s a country out there doing it better.

The gun obsession thing is weird as hell to most of the rest of the world and the treatment of black people doesn’t allow America to judge anyone for anything from a moral higher ground.

 

[Sbp]

dikk up brehs

Man that Avi

 

[GreenGhxst]

Hopefully the black man one day can look at the United States, France, England etc etc & say "we are equals now"

I got nothing but respect for the Chinese man.

Similar to the Jewish man - the Chinese man has a strong code of conduct among his people and maintains a collectivist mindset where traitors of the group are killed or exiled.

I cant do anything but respect it.

The Chinese man will eventually be the Black man's main rival.

Chinese are swindlers, they sell fake food to developing countries

They're taking Africa by storm and segregating areas just for them

They treat their people like animals if they get out of line

Freedom of speech in China is a fukkin joke, they may as well be a dictatorship

If you do speak out about civil rights in China you may as well dig your own grave

Kids reach age 7 in China and aspire to be the manager of a sweatshop, at 7 we dreams of being doctors, athletes and lawyers

nikka fukk China lol

They only said that race shyt because they know its a soft spot for them crackers

 

[GreenGhxst]

No different from last year where the Trump Administration let folks die from the pandemic because he did not believe the virus was that bad, along with using folks as guinea pigs to counteract with the virus.


How about the government arguing for months about giving Americans a check so they can survive in the midst of the pandemic.

This country is no different, they just tell you that's its "for freedom" while they slowly stab you in the stomach .

I'm sorry but this whole USA is A Okay shyt was cool when I was a lad, but once I got a taste of what the "Real America" is like, from being called the "n" word, racially profiled, my wife getting fired because of the color of her skin and stance with not bowing down, and my own son getting treated like a mutant in Pre K. Might as well just see the world outside of this shythole

Actually completely different lol

 

[sosayeth]

Whole lotta

In this thread.

 

[Leasy]

America’s number one asset is black culture. The fashion, the music, that certain energy and swag, is what keeps it on top. In every other capacity there’s a country out there doing it better.

The gun obsession thing is weird as hell to most of the rest of the world and the treatment of black people doesn’t allow America to judge anyone for anything from a moral higher ground.

You mentioning artificial reasons. Africa build the country. Look at the back of your dollar bill. Look at Washington D.C Look at who designed it. Look at the knowledge Africans bought to the country... Them cacs were illiterate criminals... They didn’t know anything about planting or Manufacturing...

The entire shyt need to be demolish

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

Yeah this entire thread went "dicc up"

 

[Vandelay]

#bothsides applies here

 

[Bboystyle]

Well are you going to gave me answer or are just going to be a smart ass about it ?

Nah im not gonna entertain the idea of u big upping communism and using the black panther party as an example( a dumb one at that because the BP had their faults)

Whats next, u all for BLM as well because of their marxism ideas?


Get educated first then come back.


Communism is not the answer here

 

[aXiom]

All this talk.. stop with the farce and make the move on Taiwan if you really feel that way..

They’re just now launching and failing to compete with 5G fighters that was designed in the 80s..

We just stopped them from purchasing our chips for their super computers..

We still protect their shipping routes with our military and they still import most of their energy and aren’t food sufficient.. think about that for a sec.. internet cables will get cut within the first few hours.. 3 gorges is on the table... There are lots of shiny new toys to be used... This isn’t a game China wins.

Will our economy take a shyt for a bit? Sure, but nothing we can’t recover from.. China on the other hand will be relegated to that permanent #2 spot till India is ready for it... They don’t have a monopoly on cheap labor and there are a lot of countries that could use an economic boost that we’d be more than happy to provide.

Their best bet is to wait it out and let us destroy ourselves from the inside, but time isn’t really on their side.

 

[[REDACTED]]

the fall of the West is near

 

[voltronblack]

Nah im not gonna entertain the idea of u big upping communism and using the black panther party as an example( a dumb one at that because the BP had their faults)

Whats next, u all for BLM as well because of their marxism ideas too?


Get educated first then come back.


Communism is not the answer here

What black civil rights groups did not have their share of internal problems that people like j. edgar hoover/COINTELPRO use to take them down .I 'am black before anything else I don't care about what political ideology black civil groups fights under so longs as it leave to a improve of quality of life of black people in America.
‘Discredit, disrupt, and destroy’: FBI records acquired by the Library reveal violent surveillance of Black leaders, civil rights organizations
‘Discredit, disrupt, and destroy’: FBI records acquired by the Library reveal violent surveillance of Black leaders, civil rights organizations

It was the late 1960s, and J. Edgar Hoover smelled trouble. The status quo — hallowed by hate, sanctioned by Jim Crow — was beginning to crack.

Behind the scenes, Hoover’s Federal Bureau of Investigation was keeping watch. In 1967, the FBI quietly unleashed a covert surveillance operation targeting “subversive” civil rights groups and Black leaders, including the Black Panther Party, Martin Luther King Jr., Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X, and many others.

The objective, according to an FBI memo: to “expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize” the radical fight for Black rights — and Black power.

Details of that sabotage plaster internal FBI records, with thousands of pages scattered across a medley of databases. Now, the UC Berkeley Library is working to put those pieces together.

In May, just before the movement for Black lives cascaded over the planet, the Library acquired a digital database of FBI records on the surveillance of African Americans throughout the 20th century, expanding the trove of federal records the Library has assembled over the years. Today, the materials provide not only a window into the FBI’s past abuse, but also an unplanned guide for the Black activists demanding racial justice again, now 50 years later.

“These documents ... reveal and confirm the kind of root investment in anti-Blackness and quelling dissent that has long been part of our government structure,” says Leigh Raiford, a professor of African American studies at UC Berkeley. “We can only imagine the extent to which the current administration, and the current FBI, is working to discredit, disrupt, and destroy Black Lives Matter and other movements.

“I’m hoping that a new generation of researchers will learn new lessons for how to outmaneuver these attempts.”

‘A double evil’
One of the biggest lessons contained in the documents is abundantly clear: Whatever you do, don’t let them think you’re a communist.

For Hoover, an Ahab-type character in pursuit of his cursed whale, the mere whiff of such leanings could trigger the dirtiest of tricks in the FBI’s arsenal.

“No holds were barred,” said assistant FBI director William C. Sullivan in his testimony for the U.S. Senate’s Church Committee, as recorded in documents held by the Library and freely available on the digital repository HathiTrust. “We have used (these techniques) against Soviet agents. They have used (them) against us.”

“We did not differentiate,” Sullivan said. “This is a rough, tough business.”

The FBI’s surveillance of African Americans and Black rights organizations — whom the FBI called “Black Extremists” or “Black Nationalist Hate Groups” — grew out of the bureau’s larger espionage operation known as COINTELPRO, the now infamous program launched in 1956 to snuff out communism in the United States. (Other radical groups, including socialists and anti-war activists, were soon added to the agenda.)

In Hoover’s view, it went something like this: There were communists in the civil rights movement. Never mind that there were Black people fighting for their lives.

“The threat of communism became a way in which to undermine Black radical movements,” says Ula Taylor, a campus professor of African American studies who used underground newspapers held by the Library and FBI surveillance records on the Nation of Islam for her book The Promise of Patriarchy: Women and the Nation of Islam. “All of these Black organizations understood that the way in which the federal government could take down their organization was by painting them red.”

“It was like a double evil,” notes Jesse Silva, scholarly resources strategy and federal government information librarian, who helped acquire the FBI records. “Communists are evil. Black nationalism is evil. Put them together — it’s the ultimate evil.

“They tried to throw in whatever they could to make it stick,” he adds. “Looking at it now, it doesn’t make any sense.”

In Raiford’s view, that story spinning looks something like the political battle now taking place over the Black Lives Matter movement — and whether it is violent or not. Raiford points to a recent clip from Fox News featuring a warning that “if you disagree with BLM, that BLM will send protesters to your home,” as she recalls.

“The FBI understood that, too,” says Raiford, who used FBI records for her research on social movements and visual culture. “They understood that the civil rights movement was winning people’s hearts and minds through the circulation of photographs and videos of nonviolent, peaceful protests.

“We’re seeing that right now,” she continues. “So much of the presidential race conversation is happening over the question: Are these protests peaceful or not?”
Fanning the flames
One of the primary targets for COINTELPRO’s fear-mongering was the Black Panther Party, the revolutionary Black rights group founded in Oakland in 1966. Just two years later, Hoover called the Panthers “the greatest threat to the internal security of the country.”

The FBI responded in full force, spreading ominous rumors to incite the group to violence, and even murder. As the Library’s documents show, when conflict arose between the Black Panther Party and the US Organization, another Black Power group, FBI officials directed field offices to “exploit all avenues of creating further dissension” and to submit regular reports on “imaginative and hard-hitting counterintelligence measures aimed at crippling the BPP.”

One “imaginative” suggestion? Sending a fake letter from US to the Black Panthers warning that US planned to “ambush leaders of the BPP in Los Angeles,” as noted in a 1968 memo in the Library’s database.

“It’s difficult when you have some of this vitriol and nastiness,” Silva says. “But we want to collect that, because that’s how society is going to grow — by shining a light on this and saying, ‘Is this what we want to be, or do we want something better?’”

Martin Luther King Jr. speaks on the steps of UC Berkeley’s Sproul Hall in 1967. FBI files on King are available through the Library. (Photo by Helen Nestor/UC Regents)
The new collection, acquired from Gale, an educational publisher and online database, contains not only the COINTELPRO records, but also the surveillance files of many important Black figures and organizations of the day — including Thurgood Marshall, Marcus Garvey, the NAACP, and many others.

Additional records, including Hoover’s confidential documents and FBI files on Martin Luther King Jr. and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, or SNCC, are also available through the Library via ProQuest, the massive online repository.

(The California Digital Library, which licenses content for users across the University of California, is also currently trialing ProQuest’s extensive Civil Rights and the Black Freedom Struggle collection, which holds additional FBI records and the personal papers of many civil rights groups and activists.)

Details of the FBI’s harassment of the Panthers and other Black groups are especially shocking given the justification for its illegal acts: to prevent violence.

As Black rights activist Stokely Carmichael told a packed Greek Theatre during a campus visit in 1966, “This country is too hypocritical — and we cannot adjust ourselves to its hypocrisy.”

“White people beat up Black people every day — don’t nobody talk about nonviolence,” continued Carmichael, then the leader of SNCC, a civil rights organization that was also heavily surveilled. “But as soon as Black people start to move, the double standard comes into being.

“You can't defend yourself — that’s what you’re saying.”

 

[Bboystyle]

What black civil rights groups did not have their share of internal problems that people like j. edgar hoover/COINTELPRO use to take them down .I 'am black before anything else I don't care about what political ideology black civil groups fights under so longs as it leave to a improve of quality of life of black people in America.
‘Discredit, disrupt, and destroy’: FBI records acquired by the Library reveal violent surveillance of Black leaders, civil rights organizations
‘Discredit, disrupt, and destroy’: FBI records acquired by the Library reveal violent surveillance of Black leaders, civil rights organizations

And again, based off history, communism is not the way of liberating black folks.