China now faces up to a 245% tariff on imports to the United States as a result of its retaliatory actions.

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Exactly the numbers are meaningless by now… however China will hurt the US in so many different ways.
What if Americans start buying directly from the Chinese producers instead of the American corporations who 1000x the price ?
 

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If you don't see the play, the powers that be are trying to push the general population to want war.

Many will fall for it.
This.
He's pushing us to war. Like a real real all out war. Not the little skirmishes we been doing. We haven't been all-out since Vietnam. A war which by the way, he dodged.
Canada, Greenland/Denmark, Panama, now China and Europe. Trump is making the USA crash out.
 

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I think China directly targeting Boeing is wild as fukk. They haven't had a profitable year since 2018 and have lost 30 billion since then. I'm sure their ceos will be Trump's ear this week

This will also hit all of Boeing's upstream parts suppliers hard....that means ripples all throughout the aerospace industry
 

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If you don't see the play, the powers that be are trying to push the general population to want war.

Many will fall for it.
a war with whom? US don't want the China smoke. it would just be dumb as hell. what's actually happening is trump is manipulating the markets so him and his dawgs can make off with billions and they already have.
 

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I think China directly targeting Boeing is wild as fukk. They haven't had a profitable year since 2018 and have lost 30 billion since then. I'm sure their ceos will be Trump's ear this week

China has probably had its sights set on stealing market share from Boeing and Airbus for a long time. Trump provided them with an opportunity to hurt one of the other two global competitors.
 

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a war with whom? US don't want the China smoke. it would just be dumb as hell. what's actually happening is trump is manipulating the markets so him and his dawgs can make off with billions and they already have.

To be sure they are making off like bandits, but make no mistake, Trump actually believes in tariffs. It’s the only thing that he truly believes in. Sometimes people will talk sense to him and he’ll pull back. Then he’ll resent being forced to make the decision and will come back with another hare brained tariff scheme. Rinse, repeat.

He won’t let go of this tariff nonsense until he does real damage to the economy.

This is playing out exactly how it played out when he bankrupted his casinos.
 

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To be sure they are making off like bandits, but make no mistake, Trump actually believes in tariffs. It’s the only thing that he truly believes in. Sometimes people will talk sense to him and he’ll pull back. Then he’ll resent being forced to make the decision and will come back with another hare brained tariff scheme. Rinse, repeat.

He won’t let go of this tariff nonsense until he does real damage to the economy.

This is playing out exactly how it played out when he bankrupted his casinos.
oh damn, how'd he bankrupt his casinos?
 

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They are threatening China by saying "you will lose access to the american market. Everyone wants access to us. We have the highest buying power in the world!"

Except this party that is currently threatening them has spent the last 40+ years doing it's best to destroy that buying power by letting Americans go into severe medical debt before dying of preventable disease. Taking the side of big business to suppress wages and destroy unions. Allowing big business to destroy competition and limit choices down to over priced garbage, refusing to enforce laws on wage theft, refusing to enforce gun laws, refusing to allow black people to escape generational poverty, supporting job destroying AI technology, refusing to fund the social safety net so people can get jobs or at least use the welfare they get to contribute to the economy instead of dying on the street.

They're doing everything in their power to empower the rich who do not spend comparable amounts of money on comparable volumes of stuff. Jeff bezos isn't getting 15 million hair cuts every 2 weeks. Tim Cook isn't buying 8 million cars every month. Mark Zuckerberg isn't taking a flight every 15 minutes. Sundar Pichai isn't buying 10 million eggs every month. Joe rogan isn't buying 20 million t shirts.

The economy in America is at the mercy of people who are addicted to increasing their wealth not using it in a way that keeps businesses going. Their contribution to the economy is buying some luxury goods and services that only they can afford and then buying shares in companies producing things that a growing number of regular people cannot afford.

The chinese know this is bluster because unlike the people running the country now, the chinese leaders actually know how to read and have been watching America continue to abuse it's middle class and poor. Theyve watched America do the OPPOSITE of what China, korea, and Vietnam did(lift millions out of desperate poverty). Theyve watched as americas purchasing power parity has diminished. They understand that democracy requires an educated, healthy, informed population to function properly. The leaders that are elected represent the values and intelligence of the population.

Trump's election in 2016 confirmed their suspicions that the average american is a moron. His subsequent actions gave them motivation to continue to invest in their domestic industries because they knew there was a chance he'd be back in 2020. He wasn't, but that just gave them more time to prepare especially since Biden didn't change americas position on China and in fact doubled down on the hostility.
 

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oh damn, how'd he bankrupt his casinos?

He opened two casinos in AC. They were profitable. But he had the hare brained scheme to build the biggest casino in AC and corner the market. Everybody warned him not to do it because he would cannibalize the other two casinos. He went against all the wise counsel provided by experts. He opened Taj Mahal, cannobalized his other casinos and couldn’t pay back the lenders. He had to bankrupt all three casinos within a year of opening Taj Mahal.
 
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