Chigozi Obioma: There are no successful black nations

[The D-List Vet]

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[The D-List Vet]

These are the reasons why the Chinese are respected globally. You simple minded negros always think about sex is the reason for respect. Money and violence is how you earn respect in this world. Not women. I swear this logic is backwards I don't know what to tell you.

this Post destroyed breh

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

Africans BEEN trying to blow up but every time black people try to be independent others sabotage things. There is no incentive to let us live. Black people are seen as an exploitable labor force and source for resources and it doesn't help that multinationals and governments empower african c00ns to deebo those resources. A leader who seizes power by force backed by the US is the best deal for big business. People like that are c00ns who hate their own people and are loyal only to their wallets.

 

[lib123]

As have the US and Russia and China etc…I fail to see your point.

Except those countries have capital controls so mismanaged billions flow back into the economy instead of Swiss banks.

 

[Jean toomer]

Except those countries have capital controls so mismanaged billions flow back into the economy instead of Swiss banks.

I grant you there are controls in surfeit in the states but China, Russia, Brazil? There are many ways that these controls are circumvented. Even in the US, it’s estimated $2 trillion went into The war on terror in Afghanistan. Half of that is unaccounted for. How did that flow back into the US? The President of Russia is the wealthiest man in the country with homes in Switzerland. Chasing ideology is a zero sum game, it’s about winners and losers and optics. Africa doesn’t understand this.

 

[lib123]

I grant you there are controls in surfeit in the states but China, Russia, Brazil? There are many ways that these controls are circumvented. Even in the US, it’s estimated $2 trillion went into The war on terror in Afghanistan. Half of that is unaccounted for. How did that flow back into the US? The President of Russia is the wealthiest man in the country with homes in Switzerland. Chasing ideology is a zero sum game, it’s about winners and losers and optics. Africa doesn’t understand this.

Agreed, the controls are circumvented but not to the point where the vast majority of wealth is leaving those countries like in Africa. Those countries also have rampant corruption but the difference is most of the stolen wealth remains in the country. Those countries wouldn't have developed to the point where they are without most wealth remaining in the country.

In regards to your comment about the US, the unaccounted for billions from the war on terror went to US corporations like the defense contractors and wealthy shareholders. But still, those entities employ thousands of Americans. In contrast, unaccounted wealth from African countries flows to Western goods and services that employ non-Africans.

 

[UncleTomFord15]

There is no successful black nations on this planet and haven't been any successful black nations in hundreds of years.

"B..b..but white supremacy"

You clown ass nikkas will never get it. This victim ass, sit in the corner and cry about how we are being treated shyt is one of the main reason we are in the position we are in worldwide..

 

[UncleTomFord15]

Because of all the resources, there will be 1-2 African superpowers in the next century...

Will they be African run and controlled is another story...

they wont be

 

[Jean toomer]

Agreed, the controls are circumvented but not to the point where the vast majority of wealth is leaving those countries like in Africa. Those countries also have rampant corruption but the difference is most of the stolen wealth remains in the country. Those countries wouldn't have developed to the point where they are without most wealth remaining in the country.

In regards to your comment about the US, the unaccounted for billions from the war on terror went to US corporations like the defense contractors and wealthy shareholders. But still, those entities employ thousands of Americans. In contrast, unaccounted wealth from African countries flows to Western goods and services that employ non-Africans.

All fair points. My argument is that all these governments are kleptocracies to varying certain degrees, the only difference being economies of scale. Additionally, The global economy incentivizes this behavior. The concept of petrodollars came into existence soon after independence in the 70s. Morally reprehensible but dollars are more valuable outside of Africa.

 

[lib123]

All fair points. My argument is that all these governments are kleptocracies to varying certain degrees, the only difference being economies of scale. Additionally, The global economy incentivizes this behavior. The concept of petrodollars came into existence soon after independence in the 70s. Morally reprehensible but dollars are more valuable outside of Africa.

Agreed and they directly benefit from Africa not having capital controls. Africa would be much better off phasing out external aid and replacing it with capital controls. The nationalist leaders like Kwame Nkrumah preached that, hence why they were taken out.

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

He's not wrong. People respect competency and autonomy. On a collective level, black people gotta show the world our work, can't be out here lacking when others are going into space and playing 4D chess. Our biggest thing is our emotions and our tethering to slavery/ the past, gotta get over that and make a future for yourself.

 

[Jean toomer]

Agreed and they directly benefit from Africa not having capital controls. Africa would be much better off phasing out external aid and replacing it with capital controls. The nationalist leaders like Kwame Nkrumah preached that, hence why they were taken out.

You are correct.

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

These are the reasons why the Chinese are respected globally. You simple minded negros always think about sex is the reason for respect. Money and violence is how you earn respect in this world. Not women. I swear this logic is backwards I don't know what to tell you.

It's because the men in our communities are the women mentally. Role reversal was successful. Thats why black women struggle with submitting to a black man.

 

[UncleTomFord15]

Is this the same man that made Capitalist Ni**er? Every black person should read that book, highlights some of our biggest problems as a people.

 

[NZA]

only path to doing this that i see as viable is becoming a chinese proxy for a period of time. turn a black nation into a revolutionary communist regime that purges itself of people who are not on code. spend decades finding a niche in the global economy. parlay that into a fast growing domestic economy that is important enough to the global economy that regime changes and severe sanctions are off the table (china would protect it in the early stages). you would have to have something serious to offer china to get them to commit to helping this happen...