Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker gives controversial commencement speech where he tells women to stay in their lane and men to be masculine again

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It's like clockwork brehs. STILL ignoring his DEI comments

They acting like they don't know wheres he's coming from.

Oh shyt you talking bout me!? :gladbron: @Mike Nasty Oh you wanna talk DEI!? Lets.

First, dude’s stance on DEI doesn’t have shyt to do with me agreeing with a comment he made that happens to echoe some shyt I myself have already said before him. Like who tf is Harrison butker!? I’m supposed to change MY stance? Foh :heh:

But anyway, separate from him, DEI. Not only was I on a DEI board at my job, I’ll bet money I was one of if not THE first person talking DEI on this site

July 2022:
Folk who work in corporate know these 2 words: diversity and inclusion. That’s the new “affirmative action’ except it’s streamlined. They just lump all minorities in that pot. And the pecking order is:

1- women- bc that includes white women too
2- LGBT- bc this includes white men also
3- all other non/black races-
4- black women.

I say all that to say this: white people are ecstatic at the new rules for diversity and inclusion bc it allows them to meet mandates for a diverse workforce while still bypassing who they actually dislike which is black men

December 2022:
A lil anecdote that’s telling: In the workplace ‘diversity and inclusion’ has replaced affirmative action. AA was about black men first, black women second. With DI, it refers to the new minorities which is women first—-all races—-and then “people of color”. Black men have gone from 1st in the pecking order to technically unlisted.

By the new code, it’s diverse. They don’t need to include black men. If you can’t see that, it shows how subtle the change is being done

I was on a DEI board at my job. And when I was in those rooms I came back here to share what I saw and clearly I was not pleased. Bc DEI does not mean hire more black folk. It’s designed to broaden the definition of what it means to be diverse. Anybody but hetero white men. So MAGA’s hate it. Cool. DEI is absolutely a net positive. Great. But from you dudes comments it’s quite clear you have NO IDEA what it’s set up to do and what it IS doing in terms of black male erasure. Black men enrolling in college is plummeting . Black men graduating college is plummeting. Black men in corporate is plummeting. College readiness programs are no longer exclusively, aggressively targeting black men. Nor are corporate mentorship programs. They are now aimed at …”DEI”. Again, net positive. But not at all what you dudes think. Companies can hire more white women, more Asian women, more gays, more people with disabilities, some Indian men, and their DEI box is checked.

So it is HILARIOUS to me to watch you mfers hang your hat on DEI when you don’t even understand the full picture. Which is right on brand bc yall would rather be politically correct than intellectually sound .

And again, all that has nothing to do with Buker.
 

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So it is HILARIOUS to me to watch you mfers hang your hat on DEI when you don’t even understand the full picture. Which is right on brand bc yall would rather be politically correct than intellectually sound .
You're a typical smart dumb guy. Do you think Butker meant all that shyt you type when he mentioned DEI. Do you think cacs cares what the original corporate definition means.
:what:
 

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You're a typical smart dumb guy. Do you think Butker meant all that shyt you type when he mentioned DEI. Do you think cacs cares what the original corporate definition means.
:what:


He's completely full of shyt too. There's no universal established "pecking order" for how DEI is handled, and the places that do have a pecking order are going to use whatever pecking order they used with affirmative action, for the exact same reasons. His claim that companies prioritized black men for decades under affirmative action, but then suddenly turn around in 2022 and put them last under DEI is total nonsense. Does he think their motivations suddenly change just because they are using a different name?




Do you not understand what "the tyranny of DEI" means?


The funniest part when these guys do this whole "opposing diversity in the workforce is actually pro-Black!", they expect us to believe that the most racist white people in the entire country have all universally landed on a pro-Black position.

Can they name even ONE hardcore white racist who wants to keep DEI offices in order to screw over Black people? No? Hmmm.....so these Coli posters who just happen to be "both sides are the same" have all realized that promoting inclusion hurts Black people....but not a single one of the "real" racists have figured that out?
 
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Do you think Butker meant all that shyt you type

:what:
But anyway, separate from him, DEI:
And again, all that has nothing to do with Buker.
Like cmon bruh.

The funniest part when these guys do this whole "opposing diversity in the workforce is actually pro-Black!”
DEI is absolutely a net positive.
:snoop:

I mean this with 100% sincerity. Yall are embarrassing. Again, forget the kicker. Your inability to articulate void of relying on emotion and being PC is a major problem
 
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His claim that companies prioritized black men for decades under affirmative action, but then suddenly turn around in 2022 and put them last under DEI is total nonsense. Does he think their motivations suddenly change just because they are using a different name?

A Harvard Business Review article suggests DEI initiatives have failed Black men economically and professionally. The article, called “Why Diversity Programs Fail And What Works Better,” says: Among all U.S. companies with 100 or more employees, the proportion of Black men in management increased just slightly — from 3 percent to 3.3 percent.

More recent data suggests not much has changed.
Because DEI covers many marginalized groups, companies, and institutions claim their spaces are diverse given what DEI addresses. So if Black men are not supported through the initiative, it doesn’t mean DEI doesn’t work; it means just not for them, or at least, not for them – yet.

:beli:
And isnt that exactly what I just said :snoop:

Companies can hire more white women, more Asian women, more gays, more people with disabilities, some Indian men, and their DEI box is checked

Again, you the problem. The status quo of ‘just repeat the company slogan’ is not working. That’s why ‘we’—-I’m assuming, democrats—-are losing. People want frank conversations, not milqutoast political correctness. You can be supportive of an initiative while understanding where it needs improvement. And I am highlighting where DEI needs improvement FOR black people specifically black men yet you’re too stupid too stop that stay on code bullshyt. ‘I want my corners’ headass.
 

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A Harvard Business Review article suggests DEI initiatives have failed Black men economically and professionally. The article, called “Why Diversity Programs Fail And What Works Better,” says: Among all U.S. companies with 100 or more employees, the proportion of Black men in management increased just slightly — from 3 percent to 3.3 percent.

More recent data suggests not much has changed.
Because DEI covers many marginalized groups, companies, and institutions claim their spaces are diverse given what DEI addresses. So if Black men are not supported through the initiative, it doesn’t mean DEI doesn’t work; it means just not for them, or at least, not for them – yet.

:beli:
And isnt that exactly what I just said :snoop:

Again, you the problem. The status quo of ‘just repeat the company slogan’ is not working. That’s why ‘we’—-I’m assuming, democrats—-are losing. People want frank conversations, not milqutoast political correctness. You can be supportive of an initiative while understanding where it needs improvement. And I am highlighting where DEI needs improvement FOR black people specifically black men yet you’re too stupid too stop that stay on code bullshyt. ‘I want my corners’ headass.


I have no idea what you think is going on in this conversation. :dead:

Like I said, the pecking order for any particular company under DEI is going to be the same as under Affirmative Action. The basic issues that have been keeping Black men out of high-level positions aren't going to magically go away (most of them come way before men even get to the workforce), but you claimed that the order had reversed from Affirmative Action, which isn't true and your own #'s prove it.

NO ONE in this discussion was praising corporate policy or claiming that DEI will solve everything. That is NOT the discussion at all. The discussion is Harrison Butker attacking identity politics and "the tyranny of diversity, equality, and inclusion."


How the fukk do these rants you're going on make him look any less racist when he shyts on diversity initiatives? :why:
 
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