"Chapter III,Vol I: The Jalen Hurts Era" **Official Philadelphia Eagles Season Thread 2022**

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#byrdgang...Bleedin Green
Sounds like you're on page with what I want for the Lions with our first 1st round pick. Obviously if Will Anderson or Jalen Carter fall you take them. Or Tyree Wilson. And if they're all gone go CB. I'd trade down to 8 or 9 to do it for us. Either way we're talking about three guys who excel at man coverage: Devon Witherspoon, Christian Gonzales, or Joey Porter.

I was gonna ask about Jordan Davis. Is it just a case of him being behind a hall of famer or is he legit struggling?

I REALLY want Gonzalez- I have a feeling he will go before 10 tho- I would be cool with Witherspoon
I am big on Wilson to but I know he is raw but maaan, I would love to walk away with Gonzo/Witherspoon and Wilson

im a lil concerned about porter as a tackler and in run support

I am just a fan but there seems to be a lack of that....killer streak I think you need to play in the trenches- he seems like a soft teddy bear
but he couldnt rush the passer in college and he still cant- its not a skill you can just learn bc he ran a 4.7
and his pad level is still really high so he can get pushed back and taken out of plays which limits his impact

If he is just a 2 down run stuffer then its a wasted pick at 13 (especially considering they gave up alot to get to 13)- now if by some miracle he becomes a 3 down player who can be used as a NT with pass rush ability then it can be a good pick

to me, in order for that pick to be a slam dunk- he has to be a generational talent and so far- he is far from that
 

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Jalen Hurts top 3 QB in the league. I have Mahommes Burrow Hurts
It’s a damn shame cause if y’all’s d coordinator and secondary didn’t completely shyt the bed he’d have a ring right now. He really should. shyts disappointing.
 

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OC Shane Steichen is gone. Maybe the DC too. Let’s see who else they pluck and who we hire/promote
 

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#byrdgang...Bleedin Green
Just a point about Gannon's scheme and its shortcomings.

The way Howie was able to assemble this roster. We really blew it with Gannon and his scheme.

Don't get me wrong, calling defense in this league is tough. But Gannon had all the pieces to make this into a real all time great defense and not the paper tiger it turned into.

The Patriots defense during those dynasty years were so great cause they could adjust in so many ways to any offense week to week.

They could switch from 3-4 formation to a 4-3 formation to a 46 formation. They could switch from heavy man coverage to heavy zone coverage concepts based on the offense they were presented.

they were masterful in taking away a teams best offensive player if need be week to week.


Or that Seattle Seahawks legion of boom defensive 4-3 hybrid scheme

Again a scheme that has split personalities with 4-3 and 3-4 formations that adjusts based on what the offense presents week to week

Or how about Wade Phillips scheme where stay in 3-4 fronts or 46 fronts and play suffocating man coverage on the back end.

They needed this whole past offseason talking to old Patriot heads or legion of boom era Seahawks heads. Eric Mangini and Kris Richard were around. Wade Philips was available.

Hell even our old DC Jim Schwartz would ve been more useful from that Washburn school.

Consulting with Vic Fangio only, the originator of the five man front:dahell:.

This defense with the names they acquired this season were fully capable of having a similar defense schematically in the off season. We really had the personnel to not be a paper tiger that gets exposed in the biggest game of the year.

Only thing I seen Gannon do imaginative with the roster he was gifted was that five down lineman front to stop the run.

All season I have been watching this guy Gannon's scheme play this off ball mix of man coverage and zone coverage scheme that requires so much communication on the back end where receivers are passed off to the next defender.

Hoping they cover long enough for the pass rush to force the QB to threw into tight windows or earlier than they want. It was executed well at times during the season. The vikings game and other games comes into mind with that.

However it is a scheme that just invites offenses to dink and donk and paper cut you all game. It is not aggressive enough without press coverage to throw timing off.

The tape was out there on us and I started seeing us getting gashed in the run game some weeks and later in the season I see the pass coverage getting exposed.

There were warning signs schematically, The Packers game, the second dallas game and the Saints game where the QB gets the ball out quick or throws in the middle in the soft zone where the defense can't get off the field or they just blow coverage due to communication issues.

There is something that Gannon does schemitically that let's quarterbacks feel entirely too comfortable throwing at us. Andy fukking Dalton went 14 for 14 on us and Dak was way too comfortable and he lit Gannon's scheme of soft coverage and blown assignments up. I had a feeling Rodgers was gonna do that too if he didn't get hurt.

We pay Slay and Bradberry to take away a teams best receiver and not to be talking to Avonte Maddox or Josiah Scott or Marcus epps or CJGJ about where they are supposed to be and who covers who when the ball gets snapped. Ball gets snappedxand coverage is blown pre snap.

is it so hard to stick with one guy and follow him. This passing receivers concept that Gannon employs just got exposed badly in the second half of that game.

I was watching that shyt too many times this season. i literally would be like why are they playing so much off ball during the season. I much rather these dudes get beat over the top than have those communication issues. To me that shyt just invites blown coverages rather than Slay or Bradberry or Maddix whoever is on the left side, right side and slot.

If any game needed strict man coverage principle, it was the superbowl

If there was anytime to play more strict man coverage, it was there against Andy Reid's motion offense with two weeks to prepare for us. Gannon didnt even throw a curve ball in there. Same concept four man rush with rare blitz and weak ass off ball man and zone coverage.

Sick to my stomach on how we lost this and how blew these embarrassment of riches on defense. How we wasted that performance Hurts put on on the biggest stage.

You guys realize we may never get this type of personnel again cause we gotta pay Jalen now and we losing this amount of players to free agency on the defensive side.

I pray the Cardinals hire this guy Gannon and we get a more imaginative defensive coordinator.

I also want a defensive coordinator who are unpredictable, makes the quarterback think and breaks down prediction schemes

The talent of this roster and the soft schedule through the nfc title game covered Gannon.

Rant done.

whew- bruh this is alot i may have to come back to this and re-read but I hate people married to a system-I am not baldy and I dont know every aspect of Xs and Os but this soft zone stuff is pitch and catch for a QB with decent accuracy. Why not play more man and why cant he do a lil single high safety looks- especially when Pachenco was gashing YOUR fukkING DEFENSE!...I see why you typed so much- im getting madder and madder as i type. Maybe confuse the QB a lil bit- its the SB- you have to pull it all out there
 

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I'm dead :mjlol:

Starting up my mock drafts and saw this

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pff said this nikka Quez STINKS.

We not gonna talk about the center part though. kelce coming back :ufdup:
 

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#byrdgang...Bleedin Green
I'm dead :mjlol:

Starting up my mock drafts and saw this

Gs6QToe.png


pff said this nikka Quez STINKS.

We not gonna talk about the center part though. kelce coming back :ufdup:

bruh I cant stand Quez- get him off the team but WR, G or C isnt a top 3 need tho

its DT/DE and S

but we def need a new WR to replace Bum ass Quez


whats yall consensus on LB?
 
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I'm dead :mjlol:
Starting up my mock drafts and saw this

Gs6QToe.png


pff said this nikka Quez STINKS.

We not gonna talk about the center part though. kelce coming back :ufdup:
“Fast Batman” wasn’t even Robin status this year. I was hoping he would take the next step and be more than the fast guy with potential but it seems that’s all he will ever be. We definitely need a more reliable 3rd receiver going forward.
 

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bruh I cant stand Quez- get him off the team but WR, G or C isnt a top 3 need tho

its DT/DE and S

but we def need a new WR to replace Bum ass Quez


whats yall consensus on LB?
im resigned to the fact they'll never spend quality resources on LB. im fine with bringing TJ back and starting Nakobe and letting kyzir walk. maybe get another with a mid rounder or a young cheaper FA for depth

same with safety. i think they'll pay CJGJ though because he fukks with sirianni. epps they might let walk and start Reed
 
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