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Had to listen to it twice.This Tommy Curry episode was good as hell.
Our pal T is back to talk Trump's beautiful brain, Tony "The Braciole" Scaramuccioliado, the Democratic Party's new slogan, and read from Rod Dreher's mailbag. Salut
Here's T's pod, Champagne Sharks: @champagnesharks
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Mike (twitter.com/blackexception1 on Twitter) and I discuss the controversy surrounding Dave Chappelle's trans jokes as discussed in a recent Jezebel article:
Dave Chappelle is Still Telling Transphobic Jokes According to Report by Rich Juzwiak jezebel.com/dave-chappelle-is-s…kes-acco-1797475330
Materials discussed in this episode:
How the Alt-Right Is Using Sex and Camp to Attract Gay Men to Fascism By Donna Minkowitz www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2017…ct_gay_men_to.html
No Asians, no black people. Why do gay people tolerate blatant racism? by Owen Jones www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2…y-people-racism
Shocking survey finds racism is endemic among gay men by Benjamin Butterworth www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/05/23/shoc…-among-gay-men/
A New Survey Claiming That LGBT People Are Less Racist Misses the Reality of Racism in the Queer Community By Preston Mitchum www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2017…_counterparts.html
‘No Blacks’ Is Not a Sexual Preference. It’s Racism by Samantha Allen www.thedailybeast.com/no-blacks-is-n…nce-its-racism
An Open Letter To Gay, White Men: No, You’re Not Allowed To Have A Racial Preference by Donovan Trott www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/an-open…0f7875b83e459
In Trump’s America, racism on gay dating apps is getting worse by Nico Lang www.dailydot.com/irl/racism-gay-dating-apps/
Gay Bars Can be Mind-Bogglingly Racist by Mikelle Street www.vice.com/en_us/article/d7bd…-bogglingly-racist
Michael Sam Sees More Racism in Gay Community Than Homophobia in Black Community www.queerty.com/michael-sam-sees-…ommunity-20160330
#Race #Racism #Trans #Dave Chappelle #Michael Sam
I sit down with D. Mills (twitter.com/mdmills79/) and Mike (twitter.com/blackexception1) to discuss the Charlottesville Unite the Right protests, a recent Essence article, Blavity Blacks, and Ta-Nehisi Coates.
Articles and tweets discussed:
Protestor who confronted the Alt Right with chains twitter.com/Alice_N_Chains_/sta…/896512399947177984
Thread by the Women's March people about Charlottesville twitter.com/RickyRawls/status/896393677244964865
Tweet where I put up where the Alt Right said they didn't want women or anyone who wasn't able-bodied on the frontlines. twitter.com/RickyRawls/status/896282610745446400
Essence article, which admittedly isn't as divisive as the headline suggests: "Dear Cis People: It's Time To Turn To Black Trans Leadership" www.essence.com/culture/black-tra…activists-to-know
Twitter thread giving background on Brittany Ferrell and her controversy with Darren Seals twitter.com/RickyRawls/status/895069484603633665
Various instances of Darren Seals refusing to join forces with white people trying to join with him to throw his enemies in Black Lives Matter under the bus twitter.com/KingDSeals/status/685546986708180992, twitter.com/KingDSeals/status/684864645115453440, twitter.com/KingDSeals/status/685546776389005312
#Charlottesville #Unite the Right #Race #Racism #Ta-Nehisl Coates
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We talk about the most recent rally by racists taking place in Boston, the Free Speech Rally, and the counter-rally scheduled to fight it, #FightSupremacy.
We also cover a host of other topics in the news.
Resources mentioned:
Filmmaker Xavier Burgin: How It Feels to Explain Nate Parker to White Hollywood www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/filmmak…ywood-952467
Circling the Square of Trump's Relationship With Race www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/us/pol…rlottesville.html
Boston Rally Touting Free Speech www.cnn.com/2017/08/19/us/bosto…-latest1214PMVODtop
Counterprotesters Being Marching Ahead of Controversial Boston Rally www.cnn.com/2017/08/19/us/bosto…ch-rally/index.html
I Think For Myself: Trump Voters Voice Their Support Despite Charlottesville Comments www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump…ag=COS-05-10aaa0g
Crowdfunding for the Fight Supremacy Rally
www.youcaring.com/blmnetworkblmcam…ponsefund-903133
These Trump Supporters Fall for a Ballot-Destroying Hoax www.dailydot.com/unclick/trump-dr…st-office-troll/
My President Was Black by Ta-Nehisi Coates www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archiv…s-black/508793/
Obama Administration Earmarks $12M for Holocaust Survivors www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archiv…s-black/508793/
U.S. Government to Pay $492 Million to 17 American Indian Tribes www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way…rican-indian-tribes
Obama Administration Approves Nearly $1-billion Settlement with Native Americans www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/…150917-story.html
An example of a B.I.L.L. story (Black Interpersonal Lifestyle Liberalism) www.vice.com/en_us/article/nev4…ial-dating-stories
A Thread by Ocky J. Critiquing the Jamilah Lemieux tweet we discussed twitter.com/OckyJ83/status/897615375822671872
#Fight Supremacy #Alt-Right #Donald Trump #Lena Dunham #Amy Schumer
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On the 2nd episode of The Awakened Soul goes off on this generations focus on shows like Love and Hip hop while not being nearly as aware of what's going on in society, talks about what it truly means to be "woke", talks about the cultural significance of Luke Cage and finally talks about President trumps response to North Korea.
The Awakened Soul is a podcast that talks tv, music, film, and how the effect our culture to provoke thought and conversation.
Listen and find out. The guy on there who breaks it down Gerald L cooper brings it all together very nicely.How is Luke Cage more culturally significant to Love and Hip Hop?
Listen and find out. The guy on there who breaks it down Gerald L cooper brings it all together very nicely.
Luke cage is far more culturally significant for a few reason it's depiction of a bulletproof black man in a time where there were a lot of shootings, m being morally Uncorruptable, being one of the first major black superheros in comic print. On the show side the use of single images to build character, having a black showrunner and overall a mainly black cast. But as far as describing the podcast it's in the original post. You're asking specifics and that my friend is the point of listening. Check out episode 2 for that discussion and political talk if you feel so inclined. Hopefully you feel like checking it out.I'm not listening to your podcast fam, explain it to me. You're a smart man
In recent weeks, a controversy has popped up pitting the centrist #Resistance and progressive wings of the Democratic party against each other. This iteration of what has become a common battle regards a rising star of the establishment Democratic party—Kamala Harris, junior senator from California. Although the recent debate on Harris is relatively new, sparked by an article from The Week by Ryan Cooper titled “Why Leftists Don’t Trust Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, and Deval Patrick,” it’s only the newest incarnation of a toxic dynamic that has been in full swing since 2016, where the two sides do battle over whether leftist critique of certain politicians is proof that the critics are racist, misogynist, or both. No matter how specific and policy-oriented the left’s critiques are, a certain class of liberals will never let the debate be about policy. This piece is an attempt to explain their tactics, and outline a strategy for overcoming them.
Typically, there are five steps to the centrist smear.
Step One: Define the Enemy as a White Male, Erase All Others
First, the leftists making the critiques are depicted by liberals as being almost exclusively white, male, and (often) privileged. The most popular method for carrying this out is the coining and weaponizing of the term “Bernie Bros.” Sometimes (white) female Bernie supporters are begrudgingly acknowledged, only to be dismissed as traitors suffering from “internalized misogyny,” or as flighty young singles supporting Sanders because that’s where the boys are—as Gloria Steinem, among others, claimed. Leftists of color, however, are rarely acknowledged even begrudgingly, and are often ignored outright in an act of erasure.
Step Two: Define the Leftist Motivation as Racist/Misogynist/Etc.
The second tactic of centrist liberals is to portray these supposedly exclusively white, male leftists as being solely motivated by misogyny and racism in their criticisms of women and minority politicians. They tend to do this by ignoring, minimizing or outright dismissing any policy criticisms leveled against these politicians, and by claiming that these female and or minority politicians are being held to a higher standard of purity testing than their white, male counterparts.
Step Three: Present Identity Politics and Class Politics as a Zero-Sum Game
Step three from the centrist playbook is to maintain that identity politics are being thrown under the bus in favor of class-only politics—regardless of the substantive policy and character critiques put forth. Many #Resistance-style liberals have a very narrow definition of good identity politics that only allows for superficial diversity in the form of representation optics. For example, a board of directors of a corporation may exploit its black workers and run abusive third-world sweatshops and practice environmental racism, but as long as that board has a proportionate number of women and minorities, the liberal idea of identity politics is usually satisfied. Therefore, even if the critique against a minority or woman candidate is for an action that disproportionately targeted black people—expanding the prison-industrial complex by locking up black men at an increased rate, for example—centrists perpetually claim that the greater crime to the marginalized group is the fact that anyone dares to criticize a politician from that group. Even when that minority candidate is being criticized for a policy that hurts minorities and women, the lie must be maintained—criticism of that politician is criticism of the group, and identity politics in all its forms.
Step Four: Attack the Delivery of the Message, Not the Message Itself
Step four is simple tone policing—divert the topic to “civility of the discourse,” shifting the focus to how the critic delivered her criticism, rather than the substantive merit of said criticism. This leads directly to smarm and virtue signaling—a pattern that repeatedly occurred in 2016 with Hillary Clinton, and is happening again with Kamala Harris. In both cases, liberals press the idea that criticisms only ever come from privileged white men, are too rude and abusive to ever be constructive, and only ever stem from racism and sexism—usually in the form of a total dismissal of all identity politics and a contempt for the oppressed identities they’re meant to protect. Critics of these politicians are never acknowledged as having legitimate concerns on policy and character.
Step Five: Personality, Not Policy
The fifth and final step for the neoliberals is to make the political debate a matter of charismatic personalities, or “names.” This is why we see so many pieces lamenting that Kamala Harris has a “Bernieland problem,” or is struggling with “Bernie Sanders supporters,” despite the fact that neither Bernie Sanders or anyone in his inner circle are actually behind any of the Harris public criticisms, and most of these leftists haven’t brought up Sanders at all in their critiques. (Some centrists, such as Laurence Tribe, have gone so far as to accuse Sanders of masterminding the attacks, in the absence of all evidence.) These pieces often refuse to call the critics “leftists” or “progressives,” because that would give a clearer idea of policy beliefs and ideals.
On Aug. 8, when The Week published the aforementioned Ryan Cooper article, and every day since, all of these dynamics have been in the media. Cooper responded to accusations that the left is motivated by racism and misogyny in its distrust of Harris by citing her history as a prosecutor, her defense of questionable Wall Street fat cats like Bain Capital, and her closeness to the donor class. However, although a few responses did try to sincerely engage Cooper’s arguments, most simply evaded them altogether in favor of doubling down on accusations of racism, sexism, and the false claim that these critics refused to hold white politicians to the same standards.
How to Fight It
My personal belief is that liberals always want to pivot away from substantive policy to diversity, double standards, civility, privilege and personalities because they’re actually afraid of defending their heroes on a policy level—though not always for the same reasons. Some of these liberals won’t defend the problematic policies and connections of a Harris, Booker, or Patrick because they don’t find them problematic. In fact, they outright support them, and don’t want to openly say so. Others can’t defend the problematic policies and connections of a Harris, Booker, or Patrick because they don’t actually know enough about the policies and connections of their faves to defend them on that level—even if they were inclined to try. They only engage with them on the level of fans and celebrities.
And it’s precisely because they can’t argue politics on a policy level that they always want to get leftists to discuss the criteria that matter to them…bourgeois feminism, superficial diversity, civility, and incrementalism. Since they can only critique on those standards, they try to force others into defending on the same standards, and shift the entire discourse. When you know you can’t win the debate on policy grounds, there are some definite advantages to using this alternate strategy instead.
First, by constantly returning the focus to identity politics, the hope is to get leftists to respond on the same grounds, which subtly reinforces their premise that these are the things politics should be about. Therefore, even if you as a leftist are responding just to say “no, we’re not white racists silencing people of color and women” and “no, we’re not uncivil,” you’re validating their premise that those are the most important issues at stake simply by defending yourself. Suddenly, you’re on trial, and the politicians in question—along with their policies and political connections—are secondary. But if a leftist refuses to answer at all, she will appear to be tacitly admitting to racism, misogyny, and other forms of toxicity. It’s the classic loaded question gambit gambit: “Senator, when did you stop beating your wife?”
That’s why the best response is to always pivot back to policy, even when choosing to answering the identity politics accusations. If, as a leftist, you choose to defend the left’s track record on race, be sure to include policies you support that help oppressed identities, and contrast them with centrist policies that hurt those same people. Whenever liberals get roped into policy discussions, they usually end up defending fallacious arguments that are easy to pick apart. Often, liberals will end up in ludicrous positions—badmouthing single payer, defending Hillary’s Arkansas slave labor, defending the Clinton crime bill, etc.
That’s why Cooper’s article was so effective and triggered so much defensiveness: it moved them out of their comfort zone and onto their opponent’s field of battle. Pivoting back to superficial identity politics, civilities, and litigating popular personalities is their attempt to regain home court advantage. In response to claims that the left dislikes Harris because she’s black and female, Cooper responded with pure policy, rather than just saying, “hey, we do like women and people of color, and here are examples of some who rock with us”—which is exactly the response they want. If you go that route, they’ll ignore you anyway, and will view it as validation of the idea that politics is just a head count of tokens.
Even if you do respond with policy, note that a liberal’s only defense is to revert to superficial identity politics, which is why you have to remain vigilant and stick to policy no matter how often they force the pivot. It’s not that identity politics and feminism don’t matter; it’s just that they’re using these topics as shields, and no matter how much you accept and respond to their framing, they’ll ignore the answer anyway. Furthermore, the superficial way they frame feminism and identity politics isn’t particularly helpful to women and minorities anyway. It’s optics and incrementalism—utterly bourgeois in its concerns and solutions.
I feel liberals ignore policy concerns that people like Ryan Cooper, Briahna Joy Gray, and Zoe Samudzi bring up because either they fully support said crappy policies and know saying so looks bad, or because they aren’t engaged on policies at all, couldn’t defend them intellectually even if they wanted to, and may not even know what they are.
Oh, and don’t forget personalities. They also want to keep topic on personalities (Hillary, Kamala, Bernie, certain leftist podcasters, pundits, and writers) and not on systems and the needs of voters. They get hung up on people, and not ideas. That way they can dwell on things like Bernie Sanders the person, his wife’s legal case, and the cost of his house, and not on socialism and its growing appeal with the populace, especially young people. If this sounds like a Republican smear tactic, that’s no accident—a continued focus on policy is kryptonite to liberals, whose only recourse is to act, and sound, just like conservatives.
T. Beaulieu is the host of the Champagne Sharks podcast. You can also find him on Twitter @rickyrawls.