Centrist Democrats Want A Presidential Candidate To Take On Bernie. They Just Don’t Know Who It Is.

[rapbeats]

Still. If they have no one else then I don't see any other reason as to why not. Better to have one term of Biden and one term of Trump than two terms of Trump

dumb logic. still acting like bernie aint standing right in front of you.

I will say this for the last time.

The country has gone to far right. the only way to get back center is to go far left. what you see as far left today aint even far left when you unpack it. its just far left for where we are now which is center right and still moving further right.

The dems better push old man bernie out front if he runs. and everyone better vote for the dude. its that simple. you do that and trump is gone. you do that and you when a lot of swing states with youth, white women that stayed home last time, and far left white men. You will also gain these same voters during the midterm elections to get the republicans out of those seats. This is your best method.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

dumb logic. still acting like bernie aint standing right in front of you.

I will say this for the last time.

The country has gone to far right. the only way to get back center is to go far left. what you see as far left today aint even far left when you unpack it. its just far left for where we are now which is center right and still moving further right.

The dems better push old man bernie out front if he runs. and everyone better vote for the dude. its that simple. you do that and trump is gone. you do that and you when a lot of swing states with youth, white women that stayed home last time, and far left white men. You will also gain these same voters during the midterm elections to get the republicans out of those seats. This is your best method.

I was talking directly about centrist democrats not all democrats. That's why I didn't bring up bernie

 

[wtfyomom]

dumb logic. still acting like bernie aint standing right in front of you.

I will say this for the last time.

The country has gone to far right. the only way to get back center is to go far left. what you see as far left today aint even far left when you unpack it. its just far left for where we are now which is center right and still moving further right.

The dems better push old man bernie out front if he runs. and everyone better vote for the dude. its that simple. you do that and trump is gone. you do that and you when a lot of swing states with youth, white women that stayed home last time, and far left white men. You will also gain these same voters during the midterm elections to get the republicans out of those seats. This is your best method.

exactly. republicans been pushing far right wing extremism for years and our whole political landscape is skewed now, meantime people up in arms cause someone pushes center left policies like bernies. its laughable to even call him far left in any country but america

 

[Fenian]

You liberals have a big problem with the word RESPONSIBILITY...

You don't like to take any for yourselves...

Healthcare IMO is a necessity the government is responsible for providing to its people...Putting your ass through HIGHER EDUCATION is NOT a necessity that is the governments responsibility...Paying your way through college is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY not the tax payers and the governments...Should the government provide assistance programs and encourage it? Absolutely but no free rides regardless if military cuts can pay for it...

In your quasi communist view the government should tax me more to invest in you in hopes you one day become a productive citizen...That's fukking asinine as is calling a left leaning moderate who shyts on Republicans on here daily a Republican, comparing me to Ted Cruz and Ayn Rand of all people because I don't agree with free rides...This is why we call this place #LowerLearning and don't bother engaging yall outside of the Trump Russia thread...It's a waste of time and effort trying to reason with extremist ideologues who don't try to comprehend a dissenting view and slap false labels on people...

Sanitation workers in my city get paid 80k a year to pick up my garbage...Same thing with police, firemen, construction and transportation workers, they WORK and get PAID for their public works...I deserve it because my tax dollars pay for their salaries and that is what we call PRODUCTIVE use of tax dollars...

How the fukk do you even begin to draw parallels between that and taxing me more so unproductive citizens can receive food, shelter and higher education?

If you are mentally and physically able to work, feeding, sheltering and seeking higher education is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY not the governments or the tax payers...I fully support programs funded by the state to help people find work and nobody ever said no to programs that help YOU pay for a higher education...These assistance programs have a far higher chance of producing productive citizens than free handouts which is what you want...Simply put, if you're working you're a productive citizen...Plenty of people work and go to school to improve their situation...I did that, my parents nor the state paid for me...I took responsibility for myself and I PAID FOR ME...

If you continue on this path of wealth distribution and free rides for everybody you will continue losing elections...nobody other than far left extremists agrees with your wealth distribution dystopia...The politicians you vote for don't even believe in it because they know its a nonsense pipe dream, they're just pandering to you for your vote...Just like Rethugs pander to racist idiots for their vote...

Nah mate paying for higher education is completely fukked up, if our System worked like America’s and I had to pay for college ideas have been fukked, no chance in hell of any higher education.

Only letting people from wealthy families get to college is how wealth stays concentrated at the top, how are you meant to improve your lot in life if you get locked out of educating yourself because you where born poor?

Thankfully I live in a country that isn’t completely mounstrous so get healthcare and college for free.

 

[storyteller]

Nah mate paying for higher education is completely fukked up, if our System worked like America’s and I had to pay for college ideas have been fukked, no chance in hell of any higher education.

Only letting people from wealthy families get to college is how wealth stays concentrated at the top, how are you meant to improve your lot in life if you get locked out of educating yourself because you where born poor?

Thankfully I live in a country that isn’t completely mounstrous so get healthcare and college for free.

You're getting rep from me for this observation which a lot of people seem to overlook.

 

[Reality Check]

Can someone explain why Jay Inslee, a successful 2 term Democratic Governor who is chair of the Democratic Governor's Association, isn't afraid to stand up to President Cheeto and who's 2nd term is up in time for 2020, is not among the favorites for 2020?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Can someone explain why Jay Inslee, a successful 2 term Democratic Governor who is chair of the Democratic Governor's Association, isn't afraid to stand up to President Cheeto and who's 2nd term is up in time for 2020, is not among the favorites for 2020?

Lack of charisma

 

[The Singularity]

Centrism's time has come and gone.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

cause the shyt is expensive AND you have to convince republicans to vote for these bills.

Thats what legislation has to do to actually get passed.

 

[Pressure]

Centrism's time has come and gone.

Depends on where you are.

 

[Pressure]

cause the shyt is expensive AND you have to convince republicans to vote for these bills.

Thats what legislation has to do to actually get passed.

The problem here is when you propose a half measure you're going to end up with even less than that.

Republicans are going to fight to strip anything.

OBAMACARE should be a great example of that. The ACA was already moderate and the brainchild of a conservative think tank, but it still gets attacked. Ironically, often funded by the same group who initially came up with the concept.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The problem here is when you propose a half measure you're going to end up with even less than that.

Republicans are going to fight to strip anything.

OBAMACARE should be a great example of that. The ACA was already moderate and the brainchild of a conservative think tank, but it still gets attacked. Ironically, often funded by the same group who initially came up with the concept.

Yeah. We know what negotiation is.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

cause the shyt is expensive AND you have to convince republicans to vote for these bills.

Thats what legislation has to do to actually get passed.

Republican's aren't voting for your bills anyway.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Republican's aren't voting for your bills anyway.

Why do you all pretend this is some profound revelation?