Cenk Uyger ends the Obama delusion

[LastEmperor2k2]

He totally exploded in this clip but this is exactly how I feel about Obama. Any supporter of Obama in 2013 is delusional because he is now going even further right than GWBush in both economics and foreign policy. It's going to come to a point where Obama in my opinion will be a bigger failure politically than Bush was and worse for the progressive brand than Bush was for the conservative brand.

Maybe this will help you understand that it doesn't matter if the blue or red team is in control, the course has been set.

They`re on the same team and they're just playing their role to keep you ignorant.

Divide & Conquer.

 

[Madvillain]

Then you get mad when I attribute it to lack of experience. The Democratic Party decided not to go too far with it because they're scared of losing the majority and they don't want to set up something that could hurt them when they were in the minority. "It's because they're working together." No, I was working on the Hill, we were certainly not all working together. The Democrats did fillibuster Bush shyt after they gained control in 2006. I'm sure you can go google instances of things you disagree with that they didn't, but to pretend that they didn't use it is just flat out being uninformed.

The Democratic Party is NOT a wholly progressive party. They gave up on that when they kept losing on that in national elections. They became center-left under Clinton and often govern center right and Republicans moved even further to the right. The Democratic Party controlled both branches of the Congress by becoming a big tent party, it has progressive wings and a liberal base but it is not those progressive politicians that are winning in VA, NC, MO, and places like that. You should be questioning the efficacy of the Democratic Party for a progressive.

This dude can't even get a vote on smaller ammunition rounds and somehow he's supposed to be able to push through some greater progressive legislation unencumbered.

No amount of selling to the American public will get Republicans to budge because they know that they have the map redistricted and have next to no chance of losing the House if they didn't lose it with O's name on the ballot and can probably take the Senate. More importantly, in their individual districts, it is more popular to oppose Obama than support him. They are not in danger. He's realized that he will probably be stuck with these guys and the only way to do some good is to acquiesce in other areas. He just fought with them and went down in the polls for it.


NOW, with that said, it was always obvious that this CPI was coming, Republicans refused to come to the table without it. What we're going to get is a stalemate because the Sanders' of the world will not allow it, and good on him for doing so. I wouldn't let that shyt in either and it's really selling out a lot of the people that came out to vote for Obama so until we see these "protections" for the less fortunate it's in with that shyt. Understand that I'm siding with Sanders, but saying that I fully understand Obama's position.

Attended a lecture with Pelosi's former chief of staff yesterday and he basically said the same.

 

[The Real]

What ya'll have to understand is that no matter who is in power, they already have a plan that is agreed upon by both 'sides.' They are merely giving you 'sides' just to give you an illusion of choice to keep you distracted... Both roads eventually merge into the same calamitous path.

Maybe this will help you understand that it doesn't matter if the blue or red team is in control, the course has been set.

They`re on the same team and they're just playing their role to keep you ignorant.

Divide & Conquer.

This is not proof of any conspiracy whatsoever. We already know why it happens that there are tendencies common to the modern Democrat and Republican parties and why those tendencies have been intensifying over the past few administrations. Yall want to play ostrich and pray to Jesus while waiting for the end times instead of educating yourselves further and helping to change things- perfect example of why your beliefs are absolutely part of the problem. You're footsoldiers for the status quo more than any Democrat Obama stan.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

This is not proof of any conspiracy whatsoever. We already know why it happens that there are tendencies common to the modern Democrat and Republican parties and why those tendencies have been intensifying over the past few administrations. Yall want to play ostrich and pray to Jesus while waiting for the end times instead of educating yourselves further and helping to change things- perfect example of why your beliefs are absolutely part of the problem. You're footsoldiers for the status quo more than any Democrat Obama stan.

Nah, I just can see through bullshyt and refuse to take apart in it.

Don't believe in man, believe in yourself.

 

[kevm3]

This is not proof of any conspiracy whatsoever. We already know why it happens that there are tendencies common to the modern Democrat and Republican parties and why those tendencies have been intensifying over the past few administrations. Yall want to play ostrich and pray to Jesus while waiting for the end times instead of educating yourselves further and helping to change things- perfect example of why your beliefs are absolutely part of the problem. You're footsoldiers for the status quo more than any Democrat Obama stan.

lol I'm glad you know my mindset on how I'm approaching things. Wait, you don't. You just want to assume that 'the religious' are somehow just simple minded and are doing nothing but waiting around, but that's a concept of grand delusion that you've painted in your own mind. You know nothing of the extent to which I've been educating myself and I won't take the time to prove anything to you. The things that are happening now we've been telling you about YEARS ago, and now all of a sudden we're the ignorant ones? The only one playing ostrich is those of your ilk who deny what is happening when many have pretty much laid out the plan verbatim. Please tell us how exactly you are going to affect change? How are you going to get Obama to stop impeding on our privacy? How do you plan on getting them to stop flying the drones overhead and archiving everyone's email? How do you plan on stopping all of these wars? What specific knowledge do you possess to change the moneyed interests who have bought out BOTH sides?

 

[kevm3]

Wesley Clark's a conspiracy theorist too huh? This is an old video.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

What ya'll have to understand is that no matter who is in power, they already have a plan that is agreed upon by both 'sides.' They are merely giving you 'sides' just to give you an illusion of choice to keep you distracted... Both roads eventually merge into the same calamitous path.

 

[The Real]

lol I'm glad you know my mindset on how I'm approaching things. Wait, you don't. You just want to assume that 'the religious' are somehow just simple minded and are doing nothing but waiting around, but that's a concept of grand delusion that you've painted in your own mind. You know nothing of the extent to which I've been educating myself and I won't take the time to prove anything to you. The things that are happening now we've been telling you about YEARS ago, and now all of a sudden we're the ignorant ones? The only one playing ostrich is those of your ilk who deny whCat is happening when many have pretty much laid out the plan verbatim. Please tell us how exactly you are going to affect change? How are you going to get Obama to stop impeding on our privacy? How do you plan on getting them to stop flying the drones overhead and archiving everyone's email? How do you plan on stopping all of these wars? What specific knowledge do you possess to change the moneyed interests who have bought out BOTH sides?

I know more than enough about your views to make the basic judgments I have. Do you not believe the government is run by some pseudosecret authoritarian cabal? Do you not believe that the political process is a sham? Do you not believe that things like the UN, atheism and homosexuality are part of a conspiracy? Do you not believe that all our social ills were preordained? Do you not believe that you just have to hold on and pull through while the world gets worse until Jesus shows up to clean things up?

All of these views are part of the problem. People who believe the above function as a perfect first line of defense for the present order. I'm interested in things like analysis, education, local organizing, movement-building, and yes, getting more people who share my views into positions of power. I don't care if you're religious or not... All this conspiracy-laden fatalism/ waiting for Jesus is working for the other side.

 

[acri1]

He totally exploded in this clip but this is exactly how I feel about Obama. Any supporter of Obama in 2013 is delusional because he is now going even further right than GWBush in both economics and foreign policy.

The funny thing is, no matter what he does you'll still have right wingers accusing him of being a Marxist/Socialist/Communist. Dude is one of the most conservative Democrats ever and yet he's still being called a radical leftist and whatnot.

It's bewildering that conservatives hate him so much...if he wasn't black, I don't think they'd have too much of a problem with dude.

That said, I don't think he'll be worse than Bush. The Iraq War was a fukkup that'll be pretty hard for future presidents to compete with.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

I knew he was a joke 3 years ago, when it was blasphemous in ktl to say anything negative about him.

People are finally starting to come around, hopefully.

 

[hayesc0]

Obama has never really been an actual progressive, at least as president. Dude is basically a moderate Republican, which is why it's hard to understand why conservatives hate him so much (other than being black and all).

This shouldn't really surprise anybody.

I have told conservatives this over and over I dont really have a problem with obama he is a pragmatist but I do think alot of conservatives are racist

 

[Broke Wave]

I know more than enough about your views to make the basic judgments I have. Do you not believe the government is run by some pseudosecret authoritarian cabal? Do you not believe that the political process is a sham? Do you not believe that things like the UN, atheism and homosexuality are part of a conspiracy? Do you not believe that all our social ills were preordained? Do you not believe that you just have to hold on and pull through while the world gets worse until Jesus shows up to clean things up?

All of these views are part of the problem. People who believe the above function as a perfect first line of defense for the present order. I'm interested in things like analysis, education, local organizing, movement-building, and yes, getting more people who share my views into positions of power. I don't care if you're religious or not... All this conspiracy-laden fatalism/ waiting for Jesus is working for the other side.

Do you not believe the government is run by some pseudosecret authoritarian cabal?

Kinda

Do you not believe that the political process is a sham?

It is a little bit

Do you not believe that you just have to hold on and pull through while the world gets worse until Jesus shows up to clean things up?

He's coming doe

 

[Box Cutta]

Obama....

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Sad people thought he was going to be some r3v0lut1on@ry just because hes of African descent. You cant get into that position disagreeing with the policies of demonic individuals.

 

[Shaman]

I'm so fukking glad I didn't vote for this fukker this last election. Now my conscience is clear...

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