Cartels are in an all out war w/police and military in Culiacan, Mexico

[Amor fati]

Really meant the southern cone of South America.

Ohhh, I see.

 

[jwonder]

We went into Afghanistan to get rid of Osama which we did. We went into Afghanistan to eradicate the Al Qaeda cells which we did. Either way Afganistan serves a bigger purpose.

1. The encirclement of Iran.

2. Stopping the spread of China's influence from coming East and to also encircle Russia.

You think USA is still in Afghanistan for 20 something years to "stop the Taliban"(who live in a remote/irrelevant part of the world unlike ISIS) or install democracy? ANd ISIS? ISIS has been WASHED by the Taliban, Russians, Iranians, and Al-Assad. Heck the USA probably supports ISIS to cause chaos for Al-Assad, Russians and Iranians in Syria.

China is going to wash the US before it's all said and done. They are in so many different countries right now building them up. Strength in numbers. I can say the US deserves it.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

@Jesus is my protector on an unrelated note. I wonder if our military is spreading itself too thin with all these different wars and no clear end goal.


Your thoughts? Thoughts on trump pulling out this week?

First off trust me I don't like "bigging" up a White Supremacist empire like the USA. So whatever I have said in this thread was not to chest beat about the USA but only to state facts. But to answer your question yea the USA is spreading itself way too thin. USA should've never invaded Iraq and got stuck in the Middle East. Now China is rising. Before 9/11 China was USA's main goal. Its too late now. As for Trump? I don't trust anything he says. Pulling out of Afghanistan? I can see a large amount of troops removed but completely leaving? Nah Afghanistan is way too important for the USA. Central Asia in general. But yea we spread ourselves too thin with the Middle East, containing Russia in Europe, Central Asia and being present in East Asia.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

China is going to wash the US before it's all said and done. They are in so many different countries right now building them up. Strength in numbers. I can say the US deserves it.

I agree. China is a much better soft power than the USA. Now China is a REAL threat to the USA unlike the cartels.

 

[CBalla]

First off trust me I don't like "bigging" up a White Supremacist empire like the USA. So whatever I have said in this thread was not to cheat beat about the USA but only to state facts. But to answer your question yea the USA is spreading itself way too thin. USA should've never invaded Iraq and got stuck in the Middle East. Now China is rising. Before 9/11 China was USA's main goal. Its too late now. As for Trump? I don't trust anything he says. Pulling out of Afghanistan? I can see a large amount of troops removed but completely leaving? Nah Afghanistan is way too important for the USA. Central Asia in general. But yea we spread ourselves too thin with the Middle East, containing Russia in Europe, Central Asia and being present in East Asia.

Nah I meant him abandoning the Kurds... China has great long term plans @jwonder

USA blew this whole century by not focusing on infastructure and education like Jack Ma said

 

[johntheblackjew]

shyt is wild...damn.

 

[DaddyFresh]

nikka this ain’t 1965. It’s a different game out here. The US ain’t having NO foreign militaries doing shyt in the states but yet they have a presence COUNTLESS countries doing all types of fukkery. Whatever negatives come from allowing the cartels to do their thing is minor compared to the positives for the greedy US. The moment that that changes they’ll smack fire out Sinaloa




If a war is being fought on your soil you LOST already

Not really. They would actually have the upper hand. Fighting in your area is always advantage to places your not familiar with. Cartel has the country on lock. Unless your implying US just drone strikes them. There’s no way they can go into Mexico and wipe them out easily.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Nah I meant him abandoning the Kurds... China has great long term plans @jwonder

USA blew this whole century by not focusing on infastructure and education like Jack Ma said

Oh that. Trump fukked up and further destroyed our reputation. In my opinion we're done in the Middle East. Yes, China thinks long term. VERY long term. If I was China I would finesse the USA by aiding Mexico with infrastructure development since all the USA does with countries in its "backyard" is meddle while not developing those nations(Haiti is a perfect example). If I was China I'd ask Mexico to not only join the Road Belt initiative but also give Mexico funding for its military to crush the cartels. Heck if I was Russia I'd do the same. A perfect checkmate.

As for the Kurds? They're never trusting the USA again.

 

[RennisDeynolds]

Cac at work was telling about how he used to date a cartel daughter or some shyt thos morning .


The juelzing was hilarious and disgusting at the same time. This mf said "I had to cut her off bc she was getting too emotional that one of her kids got kidnapped "

 

[CBalla]

Oh that. Trump fukked up and further destroyed our reputation. In my opinion we're done in the Middle East. Yes, China thinks long term. VERY long term. If I was China I would finesse the USA by aiding Mexico with infrastructure development since all the USA does with countries in its "backyard" is meddle while not developing those nations(Haiti is a perfect example). If I was China I'd ask Mexico to not only join the Road Belt initiative but also give Mexico funding for its military to crush the cartels. Heck if I was Russia I'd do the same. A perfect checkmate.

As for the Kurds? They're never trusting the USA again.

Old Cacs that run the country dont see we're doing short term shyt to win small battles but in the long term its of no help.
Putting bandaids on a faucet type shyt.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Old Cacs that run the country dont see we're doing short term shyt to win small battles but in the long term its of no help.
Putting bandaids on a faucet type shyt.

The West doesn't think long term like China which is gonna bite them in the ass. I'm just waiting for the USA to decline so Haiti can finally free itself from the USA's grip. As for the bolded. FACTS.

 

[ZoeGod]

If we're just talking about the cartels, even the Mexican army themselves could obliterate the cartels. But the current administration doesn't support that and the "human rights concerns" would come up.

AMLO was elected because the militarization in the war against the cartels didn't work. Prior to AMLO past Mexican presidents used the military against the cartels and it failed simply because the Mexican military is just as corrupt as the police. Look what El Munch did to the Mexican military back in 2015.

Mencho declared war. On March 19th, 2015, a detachment of federal police was on a stakeout in a Jalisco town called Ocotlán when CJNG gunmen ambushed it, killing five officers. Two weeks later in Guadalajara, the cartel carried out an assassination attempt on Jalisco’s commissioner of public security, Alejandro Solorio, spraying his armored truck with more than 200 bullets. “When we tried to strike back,” Solorio said later, “they threw two grenades at us.”

Then, the week after Easter, the big one. A convoy of elite Fuerza Única police was driving from Puerto Vallarta to Guadalajara when – around 3 p.m. on a winding two-lane mountain road – it came across a burned-out car blocking its way. The convoy stopped, and that’s when CJNG attacked, bombarding the pinned-down cops with machine guns and grenade launchers. Fifteen officers were killed in the bloodbath – the deadliest day for Mexican law enforcement in about a decade. CJNG suffered no casualties.
Mexico’s secretary of defense delivered a full-throated denunciation of CJNG, calling them “people without scruples or conscience who, with their vile actions, harm Mexicans, their families, their heritage and their way of life.” “This cowardly attack,” Solorio declared, “will not go unpunished.”

A few weeks later, the Mexican army struck back with Operation Jalisco – a planned decapitation strike. In the pre-dawn darkness on Friday, May 1st, a detachment of elite SEDENA paratroopers and federal police – carried by two EC-725 “Super Cougar” helicopters – descended on a ranch in southwestern Jalisco where Mencho was believed to be hiding. But once again, the cartel was waiting for them. As the first soldiers rappelled from a chopper, cartel gunmen in armored trucks and camouflage uniforms reading “CJNG Special Forces High Command” opened fire with assault rifles and Russian-made RPGs. One of the helicopter’s rotors was hit, sending it crashing down in flames. Eight soldiers and one police officer were killed. The lone survivor, an intelligence officer named Iván Morales, suffered burns to more than 70 percent of his body.

The attack marked a deadly milestone: the first time a Mexican military aircraft had been destroyed by a cartel. In the hours that followed, Mencho doubled down on the terror, setting fire to dozens of hijacked buses, trucks, gas stations and banks throughout Jalisco, snarling traffic and bringing the state to its knees. The U.S. consulate warned its citizens to shelter in place; the Mexican government had to send in 10,000 troops to secure the state. According to the former DEA agent, the chaos was designed to help Mencho escape – a tactic the cartel reportedly learned from Israeli commandos. “I’ve heard about Israelis meeting with them – snipers and stuff,” the agent says. “It’s a technical use of force you’ve never seen with Mexican cartels.”

 

[Cave Savage]

AMLO was elected because the militarization in the war against the cartels didn't work. Prior to AMLO past Mexican presidents used the military against the cartels and it failed simply because the Mexican military is just as corrupt as the police. Look what El Munch did to the Mexican military back in 2015.

So is there nothing that can be done?.

 

[Stir Fry]

Old Cacs that run the country dont see we're doing short term shyt to win small battles but in the long term its of no help.
Putting bandaids on a faucet type shyt.

i don’t think they really care at this point. They’re just trying to secure whatever wealth is left on the table for them before leaving everyone else to pick up the pieces.

 

[Juggalo Fred]

That's the type of music these guys listen to when about to do some dirt???


Wonder how long it took/takes for this story to reach El Chapo while he rots in his 12x7 in Florence while he's stuck watching PBS or access tv stations