CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER - Kevin Feige (Movie Discussion Thread)

[duncanthetall]

After watching Captain America: Winter Soldier, here's my biggest gripe I have with Marvel/Disney. They refuse to go THERE! They always want to play it safe and therefore no controversial moves are made. So, when you it is advertised in movies trailers and whutnot that shyt about to get real, when you see it in theaters, you don't feel any dire straits. Even when it APPEARS on the surface things are hitting a low point, you know DEEP DOWN that it'll concluded with a cliche big 3rd act with a lot of explosions and blah, blah, blah, with even though they claim many "lives" are at stake, nobody gets harmed and the bad guy gets handled TOOOOO EASILY.

And even though Winter Soldier was more of a serious tone action thriller, it STILL used the typical Marvel/Disney playbook to where by the time you get to the 3rd act of the picture, you KNOW how this will end because you seen this scenario BEFORE in both THOR 2 and IRONMAN 3 and even to a exploitative extent the AVENGERS.

Will Marvel/Disney EVER do a film that buck their played out story line? But to play devils advocate, if it ain't broke why fix it? But to me, this make that franchise the TYLER PERRY of comic genre films. Where you SEEN this shyt before, just with different characters except Nick Fury is Madea who be all in those films meddling.

I know it sounds harsh, but this is my frustration rant. This is NOT by any means a condemnation to Winter Soldier, because it is INDEED an enjoyable film which I suggest everyone to go see. But with me, personally, I was HOPING they actually "went there". It's like why people love TDK trilogy is because Nolan went there, or why there's such a huge cult following for ARROW because they definitely aren't afraid of "going there". It makes NO SENSE for me to be MORE on the edge of my seat last Wednesday night on an epic episode of Arrow not knowing WHUT to expect than sitting there last night watching Captain America knowing EVERYTHING to expect. The predictability is something that needed to be corrected in future films.

Meh. Not everything needs to be The Dark Knight, breh.

 

[OmegaK2099]

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[OmegaK2099]

yeah it was that good, I can def see myself watching it multiple times, that fight at the start with batroc was as epic as the OG fight in the comics

 

[ORDER_66]

After watching Captain America: Winter Soldier, here's my biggest gripe I have with Marvel/Disney. They refuse to go THERE! They always want to play it safe and therefore no controversial moves are made. So, when you it is advertised in movies trailers and whutnot that shyt about to get real, when you see it in theaters, you don't feel any dire straits. Even when it APPEARS on the surface things are hitting a low point, you know DEEP DOWN that it'll concluded with a cliche big 3rd act with a lot of explosions and blah, blah, blah, with even though they claim many "lives" are at stake, nobody gets harmed and the bad guy gets handled TOOOOO EASILY.

And even though Winter Soldier was more of a serious tone action thriller, it STILL used the typical Marvel/Disney playbook to where by the time you get to the 3rd act of the picture, you KNOW how this will end because you seen this scenario BEFORE in both THOR 2 and IRONMAN 3 and even to a exploitative extent the AVENGERS.

Will Marvel/Disney EVER do a film that buck their played out story line? But to play devils advocate, if it ain't broke why fix it? But to me, this make that franchise the TYLER PERRY of comic genre films. Where you SEEN this shyt before, just with different characters except Nick Fury is Madea who be all in those films meddling.

I know it sounds harsh, but this is my frustration rant. This is NOT by any means a condemnation to Winter Soldier, because it is INDEED an enjoyable film which I suggest everyone to go see. But with me, personally, I was HOPING they actually "went there". It's like why people love TDK trilogy is because Nolan went there, or why there's such a huge cult following for ARROW because they definitely aren't afraid of "going there". It makes NO SENSE for me to be MORE on the edge of my seat last Wednesday night on an epic episode of Arrow not knowing WHUT to expect than sitting there last night watching Captain America knowing EVERYTHING to expect. The predictability is something that needed to be corrected in future films.

you mean the fury thing? thats not disney that's pure marvel, nick fury is a hard guy to kill period..... wait til they bring in the LMD'S.

 

[gluvnast]

Meh. Not everything needs to be The Dark Knight, breh.

I wasn't saying it DOES nor do I want it to be like TDK, but I do for ONCE want Marvel/Disney create a story line where the hero have to face virtually IMPOSSIBLE odds to where even YOU are unsure how this would end. That's one thing you CAN say with TDK, when you had the Joker and Bane do things that you just make your mouth dop and create circumstances that really question how things are going to progress from that point forward.

You NEVER get that with any Marvel/Disney film. It always too predictable in it's story line to where you pretty much KNOW how the 3rd act will proceed and conclude. Not to mention the villains are always subpar to whut they are hyped up to be.

 

[-DMP-]

just bought my tickets for the 4 o clock imax showing. not a capt america fan but this looks like it will be good.

-DMP-

 

[duncanthetall]

I wasn't saying it DOES nor do I want it to be like TDK, but I do for ONCE want Marvel/Disney create a story line where the hero have to face virtually IMPOSSIBLE odds to where even YOU are unsure how this would end. That's one thing you CAN say with TDK, when you had the Joker and Bane do things that you just make your mouth dop and create circumstances that really question how things are going to progress from that point forward.

You NEVER get that with any Marvel/Disney film. It always too predictable in it's story line to where you pretty much KNOW how the 3rd act will proceed and conclude. Not to mention the villains are always subpar to whut they are hyped up to be.

Yeah I was pretty much just being a dikk. I know what you mean and I agree. The villains in these shyts always kinda be a joke even if they're really evil in some way

 

[Roaden Polynice]

How's the 3d? Is it necessary to see it in 3D?

 

[OmegaK2099]

How's the 3d? Is it necessary to see it in 3D?

I thought it was great but everybody has their opinions on 3D


BTW Winter Soldier came off like raiden from MGS in this




did winter soldiers arm remind anyone else of the destroyer's metal

 

[Silver Surfer]

going today after work

 

[TheNig]

About to try and catch this 10am show

 

[Rekkapryde]

Mackie put in that work. Proud of the brother. They didnt show him as a c00n, or nothing. Thought for sure he and cap were gonna tag team window when she was sitting on that bed in that tank top

Spoiler breh, spoiler.

But Mackie having a non c00n stereotypical role was ill.

Spoiler

Dude was putting in work in that exoskeleton. Wish they woulda showed how Cap and Natasha jacked the exoskeleton from Fort Meade. Bucky was

But at how Hydra basically infiltrated and grew within SHIELD for decades and they aint e'en know it. What a complete fukkin failure by SHIELD and Fury.

 

[pike]

Spoiler breh, spoiler.

But Mackie having a non c00n stereotypical role was ill.

Spoiler

Dude was putting in work in that exoskeleton. Wish they woulda showed how Cap and Natasha jacked the exoskeleton from Fort Meade. Bucky was

But at how Hydra basically infiltrated and grew within SHIELD for decades and they aint e'en know it. What a complete fukkin failure by SHIELD and Fury.

shyt mackie was on swole. he looked bigger and more cut that captain america in some scenes

 

[Rekkapryde]

shyt mackie was on swole. he looked bigger and more cut that captain america in some scenes

no homo, but Cap was diesel as fukk. And don't get me started on ScarJo sexy ass

 

[-DMP-]

@Guy Incognito



Ate that neg like a Scooby snack. Yes lawd

-DMP-