Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein Appreciation

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What were they like? All I've heard recently was the fallout between Vast Aire/Def Jux since Camu passed :francis:
For the most part dudes was cool. Met Camu and Metro a few times, smoke with Mu. Mu was cool as shyt. If you listen to the post humous album ELP dropped, then listen to some Cudi, you'll realize he influenced him a bit. Cudi met Mu, Cage, and Shia when he moved to NY

Met Aes, Elp (couple times) Vordul, RJD2, Copywrite. Did a show with Blueprint. Vordul was mad chill. Elp was chill, but he got a$$hole tendencies. but if i was a white dude who put in mad work coming up in 90's hip hop, i'd prolly be on some shyt also. i will cosign what @hex said about Print :mjlol:

final nail in the coffin for all that shyt was when Mu beat copy ass and it was caught on video :russ:

I maintain that that era might have been the most creative/experimental time in hip hop. alot of those album were conceptual and pushed boundaries.

and most rappers, not just underground dudes, can be corny. :hubie:
 

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A big part of the fallout was El basically running with the cash and hype from the CV shyt and putting a bunch of random motherfukkers on before attempting to circle back on those cats. Once RJD2 started blowing up, these was a distinct shift in Sonic’s and direction. Lots of drugs during that time in NY as well. There was a lot of mismanagement. There was definitely mental health stuff, AES didn’t even go on the early tours due to the anxiety issues and Vordul definitely had some issues. One of my old roommates used to mod the Co Flow/Def Jux forums

The classic Philaflava moment was Ikon folding Copywrite and the picture getting turned into an emoticon, lol. I wish Open Mike would’ve pressed El-P more during that interview series, buddy was making all types of shyt up
 

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For the most part dudes was cool. Met Camu and Metro a few times, smoke with Mu. Mu was cool as shyt. If you listen to the post humous album ELP dropped, then listen to some Cudi, you'll realize he influenced him a bit. Cudi met Mu, Cage, and Shia when he moved to NY

Met Aes, Elp (couple times) Vordul, RJD2, Copywrite. Did a show with Blueprint. Vordul was mad chill. Elp was chill, but he got a$$hole tendencies. but if i was a white dude who put in mad work coming up in 90's hip hop, i'd prolly be on some shyt also. i will cosign what @hex said about Print :mjlol:

final nail in the coffin for all that shyt was when Mu beat copy ass and it was caught on video :russ:

I maintain that that era might have been the most creative/experimental time in hip hop. alot of those album were conceptual and pushed boundaries.

and most rappers, not just underground dudes, can be corny. :hubie:

Nice, I've heard about El-P's tendencies though even from Twitter a couple of years back. Any word on Shia making that Cage movie yet though?
 

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A big part of the fallout was El basically running with the cash and hype from the CV shyt and putting a bunch of random motherfukkers on before attempting to circle back on those cats. Once RJD2 started blowing up, these was a distinct shift in Sonic’s and direction. Lots of drugs during that time in NY as well. There was a lot of mismanagement. There was definitely mental health stuff, AES didn’t even go on the early tours due to the anxiety issues and Vordul definitely had some issues. One of my old roommates used to mod the Co Flow/Def Jux forums

The classic Philaflava moment was Ikon folding Copywrite and the picture getting turned into an emoticon, lol. I wish Open Mike would’ve pressed El-P more during that interview series, buddy was making all types of shyt up
:russ: they had the copywrite version of :dead:. i forgot he got bodied twice in like a span of 6 months

Nice, I've heard about El-P's tendencies though even from Twitter a couple of years back. Any word on Shia making that Cage movie yet though?
i have no clue. Cage and shia both pretty lowkey these days. Scott doing the most out of all them dudes. he would probably be the catalyst for that shyt to actually get done. But Shia on his jesus shyt now, so prolly not :mjlol: I think its crazy how the person who Dooms lil bro was kickin it with the day he assed away, was Cage :mindblown:
 

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Never saw Can OX live, but i did see Mr. Lif/El-P/Copywrite and fat cage around that time. Goddamn Copywrite thought he was an a-list celeb. Whatever happened to him winning that Rockafella battle and supposedly getting a deal? That Will High shyt was also incredibly corny. They should have hurt that nikka.
 

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:russ: they had the copywrite version of :dead:. i forgot he got bodied twice in like a span of 6 months


i have no clue. Cage and shia both pretty lowkey these days. Scott doing the most out of all them dudes. he would probably be the catalyst for that shyt to actually get done. But Shia on his jesus shyt now, so prolly not :mjlol: I think its crazy how the person who Dooms lil bro was kickin it with the day he assed away, was Cage :mindblown:

Yeah, I don't think Cage is on Twitter anymore.
 

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Me too, I don't know why he strayed from that sound :patrice:


I don't know how close close him and Tamu were, but I kinda think his death knocked Cage off his axis.

He was on a hell of an album run, too. Movies for the Blind, Nighthawks, WaterWorld, Hellz Winter.

then....
 

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Got yall.

And hex, I believe that shyt about underground rappers at that time 100%.

Dudes talking all kinds of shyt on record but soft as hell in real life. Demigodz vs. Weathermen being a prime example. Celph Titled already put hands on Cage at a show and they ain't do shyt but make records. Records Celph took and put on wax to make money off the shyt at that :dead:




And we all know how Copywrite got beat up multiple times on camera :mjlol:

That was some all time disrespectful shyt. The shyt talking on the record was better than any dis Celph would have recorded:russ:
 
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