Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein Appreciation

[Ohene]

vordul one of my favorite rappers just off this album and a few other verses.

ts was always wild to me how cryptic and metaphorical this album was. brehs was tellin street tales in the most poetic of ways

That second vein verse the perfect example lol

 

[Ohene]

Trying to escape out of hellfires and lakes
Brain on another plane gliding through acid rain
That's stress trying to master pain
Spit words, not to hurt, but to bash your brain
That's the worth of an MC wrapped in the vein
New York

 

[Ohene]

I used to outdo cats like you in my lunch period
Then conversate with the burning bush about a period
And bust through your ego like the hymen line of scrimmage
Life's the goal, your warning comes in two minutes

 

[Ohene]

Real earth
Ridiculous

Crazy album lol

 

[Jx2]

Would love to find this on vinyl for a decent price

 

[Zero]

Classic album. The definitive Def Jux album

 

[Majestyx]

My shell,
mechanical found ghost
But my ghetto is
Animal found toast

 

[Zero]

My shell,
mechanical found ghost
But my ghetto is
Animal found toast

Life's ill...sometimes life might kill

 

[Zero]

I always thought this song was corny because dude that broke Vordul's jaw was openly antagonizing that whole camp and they didn't do shyt but go talk to the cops.

First few bars are tough talk aimed at dude that did that.

Fred.

Let;s discuss CAGE's Hell's Winter

This was all fine and dandy until Jay reviewed the Big Jus of Company Flow solo album and gave it bad review which lead to Big Jus coming onto the board and making a thread entitled "move that review, homie".

After that it was all kinda downhill. Slug and El P started fighting on the board and El P and Vordul ended up in an argument with some guy called Will High who's a 6'7 underground rapper/club security worker from Queens. The argument got quite personal and El P dared Will High to show up at an upcoming Cann Ox show at the fitting factory. Will High did, El P cacked his pants when he was that the guy was was talking shyt to looked like a white Shaq. Will got into it with Vordul and knocked him out leaving Vordul with a broken jaw which left him in hospital for a few weeks as he had to get it wired.

Back on hiphopinfinity.com a fellow called Gentle Jones, who's a slightly camp rapper from Delaware who makes songs about unicorns, was desperate for a Def Jux deal so he traced Will's IP and gave the address to El P who gave it to Vordul who gave it to the cops and pressed charges.

Will High then went on to spend 6 months on Rikers island, Gentle Jones didn't get a Def Jux deal, the shame of Vordul getting knocked out at his own show, coupled with the loss of street-cred of him going to the cops, is what made the group split and Jay Seagraves closed the website down a couple of years later.

 

[Majestyx]

Let;s discuss CAGE's Hell's Winter

eh, thats not quite how the vordul/will high shyt went. that shyt was lame AF. and will big ass snuck vordul in the bathroom. will high shyt is not why the group broke up. vordul be having mental health issues, might be bipolar/manic.

I was kind of way more in that scene back then and one of my homies was an intern at def jux. I've met a few of these dudes

 

[hex]

Let;s discuss CAGE's Hell's Winter

What @Majestyx said.

The first part of the story (El-p and Will High arguing, El-p daring him to come to the show) is accurate but there was no stand off between them. Will High sucker punched Vordul in the bathroom when he was alone, then left out a back exit.

I dunno about the Gentle Jones stuff either but Def Jux did talk to police, which made the tough talk goofy to me.

As far as I know Vordul had drug and/or possible mental health issues (not sure about the extent of either) which is why Cannibal Ox broke up.

Another side note, a lot of these underground cats would talk reckless on message boards back then. Which is how the Will High thing started.

I remember a couple of my people had to press Blueprint at a show for getting out of pocket on the internet. Which led to him dissing us on a song with Vast Aire. After he (Blueprint) had apologized in person. Sucker shyt.

After that I left underground rap alone. A lot of them cats were talented as hell but super corny.

Fred.

 

[Redwood]

eh, thats not quite how the vordul/will high shyt went. that shyt was lame AF. and will big ass snuck vordul in the bathroom. will high shyt is not why the group broke up. vordul be having mental health issues, might be bipolar/manic.

I was kind of way more in that scene back then and one of my homies was an intern at def jux. I've met a few of these dudes

What were they like? All I've heard recently was the fallout between Vast Aire/Def Jux since Camu passed

 

[Zero]

eh, thats not quite how the vordul/will high shyt went. that shyt was lame AF. and will big ass snuck vordul in the bathroom. will high shyt is not why the group broke up. vordul be having mental health issues, might be bipolar/manic.

I was kind of way more in that scene back then and one of my homies was an intern at def jux. I've met a few of these dudes

What @Majestyx said.

The first part of the story (El-p and Will High arguing, El-p daring him to come to the show) is accurate but there was no stand off between them. Will High sucker punched Vordul in the bathroom when he was alone, then left out a back exit.

I dunno about the Gentle Jones stuff either but Def Jux did talk to police, which made the tough talk goofy to me.

As far as I know Vordul had drug and/or possible mental health issues (not sure about the extent of either) which is why Cannibal Ox broke up.

Another side note, a lot of these underground cats would talk reckless on message boards back then. Which is how the Will High thing started.

I remember a couple of my people had to press Blueprint at a show for getting out of pocket on the internet. Which led to him dissing us on a song with Vast Aire. After he (Blueprint) had apologized in person. Sucker shyt.

After that I left underground rap alone. A lot of them cats were talented as hell but super corny.

Fred.

Got yall.

And hex, I believe that shyt about underground rappers at that time 100%.

Dudes talking all kinds of shyt on record but soft as hell in real life. Demigodz vs. Weathermen being a prime example. Celph Titled already put hands on Cage at a show and they ain't do shyt but make records. Records Celph took and put on wax to make money off the shyt at that




And we all know how Copywrite got beat up multiple times on camera

 

[Morose Polymath]

The embarrasing back story for alot of those artists is why that era isnt remembered as favorably.

 

[MurderToCassette]

All this Cann Ox talk is taking me back to my days on Philaflava when El P and Slug were regular posters.

Album still holds up.