#CaneloCartel Drops Another Body: The Official Canelo Alvarez vs Miguel Cotto Thread (November 21St)

Who You With (bernie Mac voice)?

  • Canelo via KO (Man-down for the PR legend)

    Votes: 48 30.6%
  • Canelo via Decision (We'll take that)

    Votes: 45 28.7%
  • Cotto via KO (Young Dogs get put down)

    Votes: 17 10.8%
  • Cotto via Decision (The Sage uses his wits)

    Votes: 59 37.6%
  • Herrea and Peterson won (Danny fukked my bytch in her mouth)

    Votes: 6 3.8%
  • fukk the lakers/celtics #Knickstape

    Votes: 20 12.7%

  • Total voters
    157

HARLEM AL

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Canelo is NOT losing this fight:ufdup:


Cotto hasn't ever beaten a fighter on the level of Canelo Alvarez
....and he's not going to be able to do so on Saturday either:birdman:


#CaneloCartel


:canelocartel:
What level is that? He isn't better than a prime Paulie.
 

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Lol I'm dead as brehs. This nikka got to gifts with Trout and Lara. He was not dominate in either. Plus he lost 12 rounds to Floyd.

What makes this nikka so good. Yes his combination looks good but dude really isn't that good. nikka is the Mexican About Busting in strippers raw.

This is the good fukkery...Al is on one this morning :popcorn:
 

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Cotto 157.8 lbs. at WBC seven-day weigh-in

By Gabriel F. Cordero

Puerto Rican four-division world champion Miguel Cotto complied with the WBC’s seven day weigh-in rule in advance of his world middleweight championship mega-fight against Mexican star Saul “Canelo” Alvarez this Saturday at The Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. Cotto, training in Los Angeles, weighed 157.8 pounds.

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old article analyzing their common opponents - How Miguel Cotto and Saul Alvarez fared against common opponents - Page 2 of 6 -



Shane Mosley
Neither man faced Mosley at the height of his powers, but the “Sugar” Shane that faced Cotto in 2007 was a little sweeter at the time. Defending his WBA world welterweight title, Cotto revealed a sound boxing brain to out-think the Californian. Mosley’s shots were the more powerful, but Cotto did not allow him to rest and the American soon tired. Mosley was able to exploit Cotto’s lack of head movement at times, stunning him on a couple of occasions but the champion always fired back to earn a unanimous decision.

Five years later, Alvarez faced a 40-year-old Mosley who had not fought since a one-sided drubbing to Manny Pacquiao 12 months earlier. The bout was more a chance for ‘Canelo’ to claim a notable scalp rather than a serious acid test, but the young Mexican did what was required in winning almost every round. Alvarez largely boxed within himself for the first half of each round before exerting more pressure to intermittently hurt Mosley. Superior in every department, it was Alvarez’s best performance at the time but difficult to assess given Mosley’s age.

Better performance: Draw

Austin Trout
The only man to have beaten one but not the other, Trout upset the apple cart when he outpointed Cotto in December 2012, scuppering a planned fight between Miguel and Alvarez, who was sat ringside. Fresh off of his loss to Floyd Mayweather, a notably subdued Cotto plodded his way in as the slick Trout boxed at range from his southpaw stance. Although the Puerto Rican icon was able to find some success while Trout was on the ropes, his usually sharp salvos looked blunted. The wide scorecards did not do the close fight justice but the right man won on the night and Trout retained his WBA world light-middleweight title to set up a showdown with WBC king Alvarez.

In his toughest fight at that point, ‘Canelo’ was able to earn a unanimous decision. At times a little ponderous, the flame-haired Mexican was able to pin Trout down enough to rack up points. He also displayed decent head movement and defensive assets which had not previously been required. In the seventh, a straight right hand dropped Trout for the first time in his career and, to many, decided the fight. However the judges scored it comfortably in favour of Alvarez, a deserved winner.

Better performance: Saul Alvarez

Floyd Mayweather
Though they both suffered the same result – a decision loss – to Floyd, the performances of Cotto and Alvarez against the unbeaten America differed greatly.

In 2012, Cotto gave Mayweather arguably his toughest fight to date, stalking ‘Money’ for 12 rounds, launching in with quick bursts. He backed Floyd onto the ropes several times and bloodied his nose – a rare occurrence. Although he won on every card, Mayweather had been in a fight. So much so that he decided to bring his father, Floyd Snr, back into the fold to further improve his defence.

The following year, Mayweather and Alvarez smashed box office and pay-per-view records with their Las Vegas showdown. Bigger, younger and unbeaten, Alvarez was set to be a serious threat to Mayweather’s pound-for-pound reign. Instead, he ended up being dominated. Floyd was able to dictate the pace and even backed Alvarez up at times, displaying aggression he had not drawn on for years. The Mexican looked befuddled and was never really in the fight.

Better performance: Miguel Cotto

Alfonso Gomez
On record, not much splits their performances against Gomez. In 2008, the ringside doctor advised Cotto’s bludgeoning of Alfonso to be stopped after five rounds while ‘Canelo’ forced the referee’s intervention in the sixth round.

Defending his WBA welterweight title, Cotto was able to hurt Gomez whenever he pleased, staggering him in the first before dropping him in the second, third and fifth rounds. With his famed left hook on full display, Cotto looked devastating.

In 2011, Alvarez dropped Gomez with a body shot in the opening round of their clash and looked set for an easy win. Alfonso however managed to give the young prospect a fair bit to think about, countering well and fighting off of his jab. By the fifth, ‘Canelo’ had taken centre ring and his power began to show. A short left staggered Gomez in the sixth and after Alvarez followed up with a series of unanswered blows, the fight was ended.

Better performance: Miguel Cotto

Lovemore Ndou
The teak tough Ndou could not be finished early by either fighter, but the six year difference between the time of their meetings with the Australia-based South African proved significant.

In the fight before his first world title contest and sporting some questionable cornrows, Cotto outpointed Ndou in 2004. It was an exciting and competitive scrap with both men shipping a fair bit of punishment. Ndou’s stiff jab and fast hands caused Cotto problems but the Puerto Rican was able to land the more telling blows and force his way through Lovemore’s tight guard to win on every scorecard.

After a slow start to his 2010 clash with Ndou, Alvarez moved through the gears to win a shutout decision. Ndou tried to avoid Saul’s assaults but his feet would not move like they once did. Admittedly, at light-middleweight Ndou was fighting at a weight class he had never operated at and at the age of 39 was a spent force.

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had to post this pic of cotto from that fight..the days when this nikka had hair..couldnt help but :mjlol: at the cornrows he was rocking back in 04..a little :dame: i know

Better performance: Miguel Cotto
 

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Lol I'm dead ass brehs. This nikka got to gifts with Trout

He didn't get a gift over Trout. He beat him and the KD in the 7th round is the major reason he got the nod.

and Lara.


There was 0 gift against Lara. Lara did well early and ran the rest of the fight...effectively giving away the fight to Canelo on a silver platter when he should've just kept out-boxing him. As a matter of fact, the fight could've went either way....I had it a Draw. Here's my original post about the fight:


Round 1 to Lara, Round 2 Canelo, Round 3 to Lara, Round 4 to Canelo, Round 5 to Canelo, Round 6 to Lara, Round 7 to Canelo, Round 8 to Canelo, Round 9 to Canelo, Round 10 to Lara, Round 11 to Lara, Round 12 to Lara.

I had it a draw at 114-114......and I gave all the close rounds to Canelo:sas2:

Lara should've stood and traded a little bit more, because when he did, he was landing cleaner and sharper.

Canelo should've cut off the ring a little more and stop letting Lara stick and move so much.

I was more impressed with Lara in this fight, but Canelo body work was excellent. Close fight, but at BEST I had it a draw while giving Canelo all the close rounds and the benefit of the doubt. I can see Lara or anyone else giving him the fight's point of view.

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/9217302/



Funny thing though:sas1:



You're saying :canelocartel: was awarded a "gift" vs Lara, but while I was looking for my quotes on the fight, I found these....you arguing that Canelo won against Skip B:sas2:



The more effective punches were landed by canelo.

All Lara did was throw jabs and straight lefts. No variety in his punches. And he didn't throw that much of those.
Yeah because that left uppercut he threw didn't land.

Dude was throwing punches to keep canelo off of him. He didn't throw nothing of substance.

Not even a huge canelo fan but dude threw every punch in that fight. Right hands, hooks, hooks to the body and uppercuts.

I wish nikkas would stop overrating these Cuban fighters. nikkas are just that. Ams..
Never mind the holding on the inside because he has NO inside game.



:mjpls:



I finally got one over on Harlem Al brehs.....dap me:wow:



He was not dominate in either. Plus he lost 12 rounds to Floyd.

This doesn't matter...Cotto couldn't beat Trout period. Canelo beating Trout will always be > losing to Trout.



What makes this nikka so good. Yes his combination looks good but dude really isn't that good.

You'll become a believer on Saturday:youngsabo:




nikka is the Mexican About Busting in strippers raw.


Makes sense, being that on Saturday, both him and AB will be both considered 4x Champions....actually, Canelo will become a 5x Champion:blessed:




#CaneloCartel



:canelocartel:
 

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He didn't get a gift over Trout. He beat him and the KD in the 7th round is the major reason he got the nod.




There was 0 gift against Lara. Lara did well early and ran the rest of the fight...effectively giving away the fight to Canelo on a silver platter when he should've just kept out-boxing him. As a matter of fact, the fight could've went either way....I had it a Draw. Here's my original post about the fight:




http://www.thecoli.com/posts/9217302/



Funny thing though:sas1:



You're saying :canelocartel: was awarded a "gift" vs Lara, but while I was looking for my quotes on the fight, I found these....you arguing that Canelo won against Skip B:sas2:









:mjpls:



I finally got one over on Harlem Al brehs.....dap me:wow:





This doesn't matter...Cotto couldn't beat Trout period. Canelo beating Trout will always be > losing to Trout.





You'll become a believer on Saturday:youngsabo:







Makes sense, being that on Saturday, both him and AB will be both considered 4x Champions....actually, Canelo will become a 5x Champion:blessed:




#CaneloCartel



:canelocartel:


@HARLEM AL u out here in da coli sktreets trolling breh?
 
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