#CaneloCartel Drops Another Body: The Official Canelo Alvarez vs Miguel Cotto Thread (November 21St)

Who You With (bernie Mac voice)?

  • Canelo via KO (Man-down for the PR legend)

    Votes: 48 30.6%
  • Canelo via Decision (We'll take that)

    Votes: 45 28.7%
  • Cotto via KO (Young Dogs get put down)

    Votes: 17 10.8%
  • Cotto via Decision (The Sage uses his wits)

    Votes: 59 37.6%
  • Herrea and Peterson won (Danny fukked my bytch in her mouth)

    Votes: 6 3.8%
  • fukk the lakers/celtics #Knickstape

    Votes: 20 12.7%

  • Total voters
    157

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At 135 he sure is. :yeshrug:

Perhaps...

At the end of the day I just wished Canelo would stop rationing his punches so much and just try to take out some of these top fighters. I mean he did good and won clearly. I just wasn't overly impressed by him, but he deserves credit. He got himself his biggest/best win last weekend. I know Lara was running and Trout was throwing back to much to really push him, but Cotto was there for the taking. I think he could have gotten him out of there if he stepped on it more.

My only real complaint about his performance, but that's my complaint for a lot of boxers in this era. Other than that, I thought Canelo looked sharp.

I guess all the elite guys from the past that used to produce KO's in big fights kinda spoiled a nikka:manny:
 

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Perhaps...

At the end of the day I just wished Canelo would stop rationing his punches so much and just try to take out some of these top fighters. I mean he did good and won clearly. I just wasn't overly impressed by him, but he deserves credit. He got himself his biggest/best win last weekend. I know Lara was running and Trout was throwing back to much to really push him, but Cotto was there for the taking. I think he could have gotten him out of there if he stepped on it more.

My only real complaint about his performance, but that's my complaint for a lot of boxers in this era. Other than that, I thought Canelo looked sharp.

I guess all the elite guys from the past that used to produce KO's in big fights kinda spoiled a nikka:manny:


reynoso said the same thing. that was my only complaint too. every time he stepped his foot on the gas, cotto was ready to go down. then canelo would ease back. honestly, it looked like reynoso said....canelo was having fun out there. :yeshrug:



"We are very proud of Canelo today," said Eddy Reynoso, trainer for Canelo Álvarez. "As we all know, he started from the bottom and now he is the champion. I was never worried about him from the first round through to the 12th round. He has great defense strategy, but I was hoping that he would have finished Cotto sooner. I know that he was looking for the knock out and as a result didn't throw as much as he should have to put Miguel on the canvas. We have a lot of respect for Miguel, he is a great fighter, and we have tremendous respect for Freddie Roach as a trainer." "I knew he was winning," said Jose "Chepo" Reynoso, trainer and manager for Canelo Álvarez.

"He went into this fight with a clear head and a full heart and that is what he needed to be successful tonight. I am proud of him, proud of his simplicity to admit that we were once no one and now he is the middleweight champion. I wish he would have put more pressure on Cotto from the beginning, but I knew he was enjoying himself. He showed how beautiful the sport can be when you fight in an intelligent way."


http://www.boxingscene.com/coach-i-wish-canelo-finished-cotto-early--98481
 

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Perhaps...

At the end of the day I just wished Canelo would stop rationing his punches so much and just try to take out some of these top fighters. I mean he did good and won clearly. I just wasn't overly impressed by him, but he deserves credit. He got himself his biggest/best win last weekend. I know Lara was running and Trout was throwing back to much to really push him, but Cotto was there for the taking. I think he could have gotten him out of there if he stepped on it more.

My only real complaint about his performance, but that's my complaint for a lot of boxers in this era. Other than that, I thought Canelo looked sharp.

I guess all the elite guys from the past that used to produce KO's in big fights kinda spoiled a nikka:manny:
i cosign this
 

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This shyt legit got me :russ:

:deadmanny: @ watch the fight backwards in reverse slow motion...

Anyone who scored this fight for Cotton does not understand boxing and was scoring punches that weren't landing...

Case and point this gif @krackdagawd posted...

g6smxhj.gif


The casual sees 6 punches and hears Lampley emphatically sucking off Cotton...

The boxing fan sees outstanding head and upper body movement slipping 6 punches...


It takes crazy high skill level to make a fighter like Miguel Cotto miss 6 punches while standing in front of you....and THEN, you still have time to slip in a beautiful counter uppercut and slip return fire:wow:
 

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Miguel Cotto-Saul Alvarez: Post-Fight Report Card

Posted by: Cliff Rold on 11/23/2015 .


by Cliff Rold

It’s not going to go down with the best of the Mexico-Puerto Rico showdowns but Saturday night we got an interesting fight with two really good rounds (the 8th and the 12th). We also got the end of the farce that was Miguel Cotto: Middleweight.

Will we now get an even more absurd farce from Canelo Alvarez?

One thing was for certain on Saturday night. Whatever he weighed for the fight, Alvarez was clearly the middleweight in the ring. There were no day of weights announced, but he had to be in-ring somewhere in the neighborhood of what Gennady Golovkin was for his last outing.

And that’s what this really all boils down to, right? The WBC has said the Cotto-Alvarez winner must fight Golovkin or relinquish the belt. Alvarez now has that belt. Will the WBC stand by their word? Will Alvarez seek shenanigans, as champion, with weight limits the same way Cotto did in demanding none of his middleweight title fights be stipulated at the actual 160 lb. weight limit?

Let’s go the report card.

Grades

Pre-Fight: Speed – Cotto B; Alvarez B/Post: Same
Pre-Fight: Power – Cotto B+; Alvarez B+/Post: B; B+
Pre-Fight: Defense – Cotto B-; Alvarez B/Post: B-; B+
Pre-Fight: Intangibles – Cotto B+; Alvarez B+/Post: B+; A


There are plenty who saw a close fight here. It was certainly competitive but there was little doubt who the rightful winner was. The 11-1 scorecard insulted Cotto’s effort but not by that much. 8-4 or 9-3 even were fair outcomes.

Cotto did several things well. He moved, got off combinations. Canelo did most things better. For all the flash of a lot of Cotto’s work, little of it was landing. The same couldn’t be said for Alvarez. He rocked Cotto several times and took Cotto’s power fine when it got home. When exchanges broke out in the best two rounds of the fight, Alvarez was winning them. His head movement and blocking were very good on the night to compliment heavy hands.

From early on, he was winning the fight. It was evidence of why Cotto has been averse to fighting middleweights at middleweight.

He isn’t big enough.

He wouldn’t have been big enough to beat Alvarez at Jr. middleweight either, which we know because that’s pretty much where they fought. Cotto came in just below that division’s limit of 154. Alvarez was, officially, only a pound over.

Saturday revealed what many thought to be the case for the last couple years. The Cotto resurgence was as much about timing, matchmaking, and stipulations as it was performance. After losing two straight to Floyd Mayweather and Austin Trout, he wasn’t matched with fighters who could go like either again. A better, healthier Sergio Martinez would have been a test. He didn’t exist anymore. This was the first real test since those twin losses.

Cotto was better than most 35-year old’s might have been on Saturday but time doesn’t stand still. 25-year old’s that are worth investing in beat their elders. It’s the way things go. There are always exceptions; that’s normally been the rule.

Now, will the 25-year old Alvarez fight fully in the division he belongs in and make the only middleweight fight that really matters?

His history says he may surprise us. There was a time when Alvarez was being guided with kid gloves. That ended long ago. Trout, Mayweather, Erislandy Lara, and now Cotto says Alvarez will make the fights. Maybe we still end up with some pissing contest catch weight, and that would stink, but it says here that we see Golovkin get his crack at the big name he’s lacked sometime in 2016 (maybe not right away).

And Alvarez might be a tougher night for Golovkin than it appears early on. There is no substituting experience. Alvarez has seen some of boxing’s cagiest fighters. He’s not going to just lay down if, and when, he and Golovkin finally throw down.

Report Card and Staff Picks 2015: 84-23 (Including staff picks for Crolla-Perez, Abraham-Murray, and Vargas-Miura)


Miguel Cotto-Saul Alvarez: Post-Fight Report Card
 
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This shyt legit got me :russ:

:deadmanny: @ watch the fight backwards in reverse slow motion...

Anyone who scored this fight for Cotton does not understand boxing and was scoring punches that weren't landing...

Case and point this gif @krackdagawd posted...

g6smxhj.gif


The casual sees 6 punches and hears Lampley emphatically sucking off Cotton...

The boxing fan sees outstanding head and upper body movement slipping 6 punches
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you know what that reminds me of? Oscar vs Floyd...people were giving some rounds to oscar because he would throw a lil flurry here and there, most punches were either blocked or doged:francis: out of six, one or two would land.

anyway its funny you posted that gif, I was trollin at the party, because everybody was in awe at those matrix skills canelo showed...

I was like "Looked like Canelo learned from that mayweather fight:smugfavre:"

motherfukkers was bout to throw food at me n shyt:dame:
 
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