Can we ban the words "bad writing", "plot armor", "rushed" and "fan service" from The Film Room?

[Sad Bunny]

They're being overused by all of these posters who apparently missed their callings to be Hollywood TV and Film writers

 

[Biscayne]

"Rushed" is a good replacement imho. I'll take rushed for 500.

 

[nieman]

I think most words are misused here. But "fan service" is a real thing. Endgame was like 90% fan service for the MCU AND comic book fans, so I really don't have a problem with it. I think posters just use it out of context.

"Bad writing" & "plot armor" are good ones to ban though. You can't call something "plot armor" if you don't know the intended plot, because everything is essentially plot armor. For "bad writing" I tell people read more, or pay attention to it ALL.

 

[OJ Simpsom]

Banning words now. I hate this new generation.

 

[obarth]

They're being overused by all of these posters who apparently missed their callings to be Hollywood TV and Film writers

They're catch phrases for cats that want to hate on things but don't know how

 

[Scottie Drippin]

If someone wants to pull up on me for saying something has poor writing they can pull up.

Everything I've been saying about GOT for the past 3 seasons is the running hot take for every critic this season.

GoT is a poorly written show now.

Plot armour is nonsense. Plot armour is something people say when happenings in a story don't line up with their own personal logic, and people aren't really seeing if it lines up with the logic of the universe they're discussing.

 

[Sad Bunny]

I think most words are misused here. But "fan service" is a real thing. Endgame was like 90% fan service for the MCU AND comic book fans, so I really don't have a problem with it. I think posters just use it out of context.

"Bad writing" & "plot armor" are good ones to ban though. You can't call something "plot armor" if you don't know the intended plot, because everything is essentially plot armor. For "bad writing" I tell people read more, or pay attention to it ALL.

Don't many of these companies make these shows and movies for the fans though?


So technically all art is fan service

 

[AquaCityBoy]

OP is a very rushed thread with bad writing and nothing but fan service for people who excuse plot armor.

 

[My Girl is Bow Legged]

aka please don't talk bad about avengers and game of thrones

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

aka please don't talk bad about avengers and game of thrones

This.

Some of us aren’t content with whatever gets pushed out

 

[Spliff]

Nah, they're applicable for GoT discussions.

It is hilarious how there's "flavor of the month" terms when complaining about media, though.

I never heard the term "Mary Sue" until Captain Marvel was approaching. That shyt plagued discussions for MONTHS.

 

[Smoking With Cigarettes]

If you ban "bad writing" then how would you describe Suicide Squad?

 

[Luke Cage]

Fan service really means nothing. All people are saying is i recognize that reference, therefore it's bad. As if that isn't the entire point of a shared continuity. If there was no Fan Service, it would be just a bunch of films with no relationship to each other which would be terrible.
Imagine if Star Wars or the MCU was done like Final Fantasy, with each film the series being it's own separate universe having no connection to each other. What would be the point?

People complained about the avengers not showing up in Iron Man 3 to help Tony Stark protect the president but then turned around shouted fan service when Falcon showed up in Antman.

 

[obarth]

Don't many of these companies make these shows and movies for the fans though?


So technically all art is fan service

It's just such a lazy term to me. Like use your adjectives, brehs. What are the specific gripes from a narrative and storytelling aspect? I still haven't sat down to articulate my gripes about Endgame yet because I want to be descriptive enough to say what about the 3hr plus movie I had problems with. When cats start talking about the speed that ravens fly to shyt on a show, I know we're past silly. I see cats talk about GoT not having the books to pull from and thus the writing is poor. In those very books, the writer got himself stuck in a position where all the characters were essentially meeting up in one place. The "Meereenese Knot" isn't some sex position like they say in the show. It's a term coined because so many characters and story arcs were converging towards Dany in Meereene. He wrote himself into a corner. Books will always be more descriptive than TV or movies since that's how the medium works. Regardless, you can't have a book series that's merely about setup and intrigue without any payoff. The first 5/6 seasons was plotting and maneuvering. That shyt has to have a climactic conclusion. It's not bad writing to see the payoff.

 

[Smoking With Cigarettes]

As far as Endgame goes if you're complaining about fan service in a movie that wraps up a 20 movie sage, you probably aren't a fan