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on that premise neither was returns right?![]()
TDK was fantastic but to say it trumps Begins is amateurish.
How can you say that with bale in the role? Val and keaton made for far better bats/Wayne's to me they just weren't fortunate to get an origin storyThe Dark Knight is the better film. Begins has the better Batman characterisation and better depictions of Bruce Wayne, Batman and Gotham.[/b]
agreedBatman still hasn't been properly done in any of the live action films.
winter soldier>>>>>>>>>>
wrong smiley. try again.
How can you say that with bale in the role? Val and keaton made for far better bats/Wayne's to me they just weren't fortunate to get an origin story
Breh it's a batman movie. If you feel like the best parts of it were when he wasn't on screen that's fine but he has a complete arc in that movie and is the main character. He starts at a place of thinking he can handle criminals easily and that the world is very black and white but he learns that not everything is simple, not everything is black and white and that he may have to do things he doesn't want to do, go outside of the law more than he wants, in order to save the day at any cost. His morals were tested, his limits were tested, and in the end, he saved the day but at a huge cost and he was changed because of it.
The best part of any batman story is going to be the villains because they are bigger characters than batman; joker, two-face, riddler, catwoman, penguin, etc. can be big. You can play them very big and very theatric and command the screen like that but with Batman, you're going to be more subdued and focus more on different aspects. Batman isn't a larger than life character although he is a man dressed as a bat; he's still just a detective in a world of psychopaths.
Breh it's a batman movie. If you feel like the best parts of it were when he wasn't on screen that's fine but he has a complete arc in that movie and is the main character. He starts at a place of thinking he can handle criminals easily and that the world is very black and white but he learns that not everything is simple, not everything is black and white and that he may have to do things he doesn't want to do, go outside of the law more than he wants, in order to save the day at any cost. His morals were tested, his limits were tested, and in the end, he saved the day but at a huge cost and he was changed because of it.
The best part of any batman story is going to be the villains because they are bigger characters than batman; joker, two-face, riddler, catwoman, penguin, etc. can be big. You can play them very big and very theatric and command the screen like that but with Batman, you're going to be more subdued and focus more on different aspects. Batman isn't a larger than life character although he is a man dressed as a bat; he's still just a detective in a world of psychopaths.